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Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:07 pm
by OnSong
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/9947346/Iranian-blinded-by-acid-pardons-attacker

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IRANIAN BLINDED BY ACID PARDONS ATTACKER

An Iranian woman blinded and disfigured by a man who threw acid into her face stood above her attacker in a hospital operating room as a doctor was about to put several drops of acid in one of his eyes in court-ordered retribution.

The man waited on his knees and wept.

"What do you want to do now?" the doctor asked the 34-year-old woman, whose own face was severely disfigured in the 2004 attack.

"I forgave him, I forgave him," she responded, asking the doctor to spare him at the last minute in a dramatic scene broadcast on Iran's state television.

Ameneh Bahrami lost her sight and suffered horrific burns to her face, scalp and body in the attack, carried out by a man who was angered that she refused his marriage proposal.

"It is best to pardon when you are in a position of power," Bahrami said in explaining her decision on Sunday to spare him.

The sobbing man, Majid Movahedi, said Bahrami was "very generous."

It was a change of heart from around the time when the court handed down the sentence in November 2008.

A few months later, Bahrami told a radio station in Spain, where she travelled for medical treatment after the attack, that she was happy with the ruling.

"I am not doing this out of revenge, but rather so that the suffering I went through is not repeated," she said in that March 2009 interview.

The court ruling had allowed Bahrami to have a doctor pour a few drops of the corrosive chemical in one of Movahedi's eyes as retribution based on the Islamic law system of "qisas," or eye-for-an-eye retribution.

Though she was blinded in both eyes, she said in the radio interview that the court ruled she was entitled to blind him in only one eye.

After undergoing treatment in Barcelona, Bahrami initially recovered 40 per cent of the vision in one eye, but she later lost all her sight.

Tehran prosecutor Abbas Jafari Dowlatabadi said Movahedi would remain in jail until a court decides on an alternative punishment, according to Iran's ISNA news agency.

He said Bahrami has sought financial compensation from her attacker for the cost of treating her injuries.

There have been several other acid attacks on women in Iran. Last week, a young woman died after a man poured acid on her face for rejecting his marriage proposal. Her attacker remains at large.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:12 pm
by Crack
Too many people in the world today who are not being made to pay for their actions..

I'm sure some will say to forgive is the way to go, but if these people were made to pay a similar price to their victims for their actions, then maybe others might stop and think before they do something similar down the road??

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:16 pm
by JK
I would hope I chose the forgiveness option, but who really knows how you'd be thinking after your life as you'd known it had been taken away from you??

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:19 pm
by OnSong
Same. It's not really a question I could answer definitively on the spot but I can't imagine being so compassionate in the same situation.

Don't know what to make of myself after saying that.... :lol:

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:22 pm
by Dirko
Eye for an eye....

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:22 pm
by JK
In many ways that crime is worse than Murder .. For many people in the victim's shoes, I would think they would spend their remaining years (which could be a ******* long time) battling with their own mind over how this could have happened to them .. Just a horrendous crime.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:22 pm
by JK
SJABC wrote:Eye for an eye....


Makes the whole world blind

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:32 pm
by Lightning McQueen
I am speechless, I am without speech.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:34 pm
by Bum Crack
Poor bird. Nobody deserves that.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:46 pm
by OnSong
Lightning McQueen wrote:I am speechless, I am without speech.

I wonder how many blokes just carry a jar of acid to their marriage proposals in Iran?

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:00 pm
by Mythical Creature
Its one of those questions that cant be answered until you are put in that position. Who knows what my decision would be. Would also depend on time period since the incident as well and I'd guess that the longer since the incident the more chance of forgiveness.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:04 pm
by JAS
OnSong wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I am speechless, I am without speech.

I wonder how many blokes just carry a jar of acid to their marriage proposals in Iran?


It's not unique to Iran...just ask Katie Piper...

http://www.katiepiperfoundation.org.uk/meet-katie/

Obviously no one can say for sure what they'd do until they're in the same postition but I hope I'd have the strength to forgive. I think the 'eye for an eye' thing is just lowering yourself to their standards and I'd hope I'm better than that.

Regards
JAS

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:11 pm
by Barto
It's one thing that sickens me to the core.. how the hell could you disfigure another human being? I cant fathom the mentality.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:41 pm
by Q.
Hate and vengeance is counterproductive to autonomy. I'd like to think I'd forgive, if only for myself and being free of the shackles negative thought.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:09 pm
by Brucetiki
Holding on to hurt and pain ultimately only hurts yourself, as you become more bitter about that person while they move on, often oblivious to how you're feeling.

Forgiveness, while very challenging at times, is incredibly releasing and healing and sometimes (like the case in the opening post) forgiveness is a very brave thing to do.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:18 pm
by Media Park
Treat others as you wish to be treated.

I'd happy for this guy to get life in prison, or the death penalty, if it was applicable in that country.

However, I find it astounding in this day and age that what is tantamount to torture is actually a legal punishment.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:30 pm
by Aerie
I like eye for an eye.

Broadcasting on tv is probably going a bit far though.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:36 pm
by OnSong
I think they should take it to the next level. Get a really unattractive and obese woman propose to him. He accepts, they are married for all intents and purposes, if he says no, she chucks acid on his face.

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:48 pm
by overloaded
****** disgraceful act.

death penalty

Re: Moral dilemma: Would you forgive him?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:05 pm
by Jimmy_041
I read that and thought how strong she is and what faith she must have.
I hope the next world is a better place for her.

As for him...... :twisted: Unfortunately, it is all too common.