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There is an alledged scam on payment of Infringements concerning demerit points.
A media broadcaster has said that by overpaying a fine by
amounts of $5 + has opened a loophole.
For example if you have a $295 infringement and pay by cheque for $300,
the differential is $5.
A $5cheque is re-sent back to the perpetuator and apparently if you do
not cash in that $5 cheque, then you are not docked the applicable demerit points

Interesting.

Can someone please explain this absurdity

Easy mal,I would say it is absurd to over pay a fine.

I've heard of this before.

They send you a cheque for the amount over paid, and the matter isn't closed (and therefore points not added) until you honour the cheque.

On a side note Mal, you are given demerit points, not docked

Otherwise they'd be merit points.

This story was around years ago, and I believe it was actually legitimate, although I was under the impression that they had rectified it?

here's a tip to get around it....don't speed

would have been nice to know this a while ago, i have one demerit point to last me til October 2008, while on P plates, good luck to me.

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:would have been nice to know this a while ago, i have one demerit point to last me til October 2008, while on P plates, good luck to me.

Been there done that.

Another scam ?

Statuatory declarations are now a forMALity to ascertain the identity of
the driver of the vehicle.
The driver of the vehicle is fined and gets Demerit points.
HOWEVER
A person told me today that when he worked for a company the rules differed.
Companies have a choice when the infringement notice is sent.
The example he used was,
There is an option available to the company, pay the fine and declare the driver
OR
Pay the fineand an additional amount and not declare the driver.

If a fine was $200 you could pay about $700 and not list the driver.

Revenue raising racketeering

If its true imagine the public outcry.

I heard on the radio this morning, some copper stating that the demerit points apply as soon as the fine is paid - even if overpaid.

TIme to go cash those cheques people, they are not helping you!

OK folks.
Fiestly, stop it MAL - I can't get all these questions answered BUT

re the demerit points issue,

I am informed by an absolutely impeccable source (from the place where these types of processes are conducted!!) that it is definitely an urban myth.

I can assure everyone that there is no better source to confirm or deny this rumour than the one I have got clarification from on this.

mal wrote:Another scam ?

Statuatory declarations are now a forMALity to ascertain the identity of
the driver of the vehicle.
The driver of the vehicle is fined and gets Demerit points.
HOWEVER
A person told me today that when he worked for a company the rules differed.
Companies have a choice when the infringement notice is sent.
The example he used was,
There is an option available to the company, pay the fine and declare the driver
OR
Pay the fineand an additional amount and not declare the driver.

If a fine was $200 you could pay about $700 and not list the driver.

Revenue raising racketeering

If its true imagine the public outcry.

this is true from memory my last fine at work was $179 but if i left it in the companies name the fine was something like $460.00

SQUWARK is the company scam true or false, thats 2 people who
have confirmed it.
If its true, I will submit a letter to my MP with a verificous complaint.

Will make some enquiries but this will be my fifth "favour" in two or three days so I may have to find another route to the answer - (yes, R-O-U-T-E , not root! )

if i can find the last fine i'll show you to confirm it, when you get it changed from a company to a person you have to get a jp or similar to sign a form (stat dec) then send it in & then you receive another fine with the same details but in your name instead of the companies

if your vehicle is registered to a company and u are caught speeding

u can either declare ur the person caught $ 179

if u want the comapny to accept blame $479

it all depends what points u have left

dinglinga wrote:if your vehicle is registered to a company and u are caught speeding

u can either declare ur the person caught $ 179

if u want the comapny to accept blame $479

it all depends what points u have left

This is additional revenue raising garbage at its very very worst.
If anyone gets caught its 3 points by stat.dec.
If anyone works for a company they can get the company to pay the extra $300 and no points.
I am absolutely bewildered.
Why cant anyone then pay the extra $300 to protect thier demerit points?

how many points have you got left mal ?

mal wrote:

dinglinga wrote:if your vehicle is registered to a company and u are caught speeding

u can either declare ur the person caught $ 179

if u want the comapny to accept blame $479

it all depends what points u have left

This is additional revenue raising garbage at its very very worst.
If anyone gets caught its 3 points by stat.dec.
If anyone works for a company they can get the company to pay the extra $300 and no points.
I am absolutely bewildered.
Why cant anyone then pay the extra $300 to protect thier demerit points?

if i got to the point i needed to pay the extra to save my licence, i can tell you i'd have to pay it & not the company as is the case with any fine i get

bayman wrote:

mal wrote:

dinglinga wrote:if your vehicle is registered to a company and u are caught speeding

u can either declare ur the person caught $ 179

if u want the comapny to accept blame $479

it all depends what points u have left

This is additional revenue raising garbage at its very very worst.
If anyone gets caught its 3 points by stat.dec.
If anyone works for a company they can get the company to pay the extra $300 and no points.
I am absolutely bewildered.
Why cant anyone then pay the extra $300 to protect thier demerit points?

if i got to the point i needed to pay the extra to save my licence, i can tell you i'd have to pay it & not the company as is the case with any fine i get

Double standards BAYMAN
You get away with it, but others cant.

not double standards just another way for the government to make extra $$$$$$$$$$$, because if you pay extra & stay on the road they a chance to get more out of you rather than have you walking the streets for 3-6 months or whatever the penalty is