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Last night on C9 they had their 20 to 1 program on Sporting Triumphs and Tragedies, as this was similar to discussions we've had recently I thought I'd list them here:

20. 1992 Olympics — Derek Redmond injured
19. Payne Stewart's plane crash
18. AFL 05/06 Grand Finals
17. Sydney to Hobart 1998 — the fatal storm
16. Susie Maroney's Cuba to Florida swim
15. Alan Langer's Origin comeback
14. Nadia Comaneci and her 'Perfect 10'
13. John Mclean — the paraplegic who swam the English channel
12. Cathy Freeman's 2000 Sydney Olympics win
11. Rugby World Cup - 1991 & 2003
10. Lance Armstrong
9. Nikki Lauda's crash
8. The Ashes 2005
7. Ted Whitten's lap of honour
6. Golfer Jack Newton's accident
5. Torville and Dean's perfect scores
4. Liverpool FC - Hillsborough Crush
3. Kieren Perkins' 1500m swim
2. Pat Cash wins Wimbledon in 1987
1. Australia at the World Cup

Now, I know its subjective but surely the 1983 America's cup triumph would fit in there before at least half of those, I thought it was a glaring ommision?

The biggest tragedy is that people watch "20 to 1" in the first place.

And I shamefacedly admit to having been one of them, though not last night.

"20 to 1" is the TV entertainment equivalent of a road accident. You know it's bad and ugly to watch, and you don't go out of your way to see it, but if it happens to come on then you can't help watching all the same.

lol.... psuedo

Yes BIG Ommision....Americas Cup....
scoob cant belive Cathy Freemans run made it.....FFS
Did Pat Cash need to be up so high.... If he hadnt have climed the grandsatand he wouldnt have made it?!!??!?!

Wedgie wrote:Last night on C9 they had their 20 to 1 program on Sporting Triumphs and Tragedies, as this was similar to discussions we've had recently I thought I'd list them here:

20. 1992 Olympics — Derek Redmond injured
19. Payne Stewart's plane crash
18. AFL 05/06 Grand Finals
17. Sydney to Hobart 1998 — the fatal storm
16. Susie Maroney's Cuba to Florida swim
15. Alan Langer's Origin comeback
14. Nadia Comaneci and her 'Perfect 10'
13. John Mclean — the paraplegic who swam the English channel
12. Cathy Freeman's 2000 Sydney Olympics win
11. Rugby World Cup - 1991 & 2003
10. Lance Armstrong
9. Nikki Lauda's crash
8. The Ashes 2005
7. Ted Whitten's lap of honour
6. Golfer Jack Newton's accident
5. Torville and Dean's perfect scores
4. Liverpool FC - Hillsborough Crush
3. Kieren Perkins' 1500m swim
2. Pat Cash wins Wimbledon in 1987
1. Australia at the World Cup

Now, I know its subjective but surely the 1983 America's cup triumph would fit in there before at least half of those, I thought it was a glaring ommision?

Yep definately # one in the tragedies stakes, especially as it is a tragedy that some people actually rate this in a sporting sense (see my earlier comments)....

I'm with you Wedge man even though it was 23 years ago and the events subsequent to some of the main players, but I can not recall a sporting event (possibly bar the Sydney Olympics) that more unified us as a nation and created such a massive feeling of euphoria.

Particularly given they have managed to fitthe America's Cup victory in almost every other top 20 - this is one it actually did fit into.

The line between sporting and otherwise is blurred a little as well. Even though Payne Stewarts death was a tragedy for the families of everyone on the plane, it wasn't necessarily a sporting tragedy.

And the last 2 AFL GF's? Please, we can surely do better than that!

Also for a worldwide list, there are too many Austrlaian sportspeople/events.

"And the last 2 AFL GF's? Please, we can surely do better than that"

Same two teams playing,4 points then 1 point........pretty good for mine,worthy of a mention.More so than any Keiren Perkins swim,especially when you get Laurie Lawrence to comment on it.The bloke gets excited when he spots a bottle of water.


*Footnote-I think swimming is as boring as any Hugh Grant movie*

(Not that I have ever watched one)

You are correct, boon - I was perhaps a little too flippant in my choice of words - you are right they were both great contests. But the show was top 20 sporting tragedies and triumphs. I don't reckon either game fits as an individual game or as a pair of games. Neither side triumphed against the odds or lost what they should have won - they were just two close GF's.

What about the bloke who carried his disabled son through a triathlon (towed him in a dinghy while he swam, pushed him in a 'pusher' while he ran and towed him while on the bike), because they loved to spend time together? That's a triumph.

Did they do on this show what they've done in the past and ask people that either weren't even born or would have only been 1 or 2 years old at the time, for their version of these events?

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:

Wedgie wrote:Last night on C9 they had their 20 to 1 program on Sporting Triumphs and Tragedies, as this was similar to discussions we've had recently I thought I'd list them here:

20. 1992 Olympics — Derek Redmond injured
19. Payne Stewart's plane crash
18. AFL 05/06 Grand Finals
17. Sydney to Hobart 1998 — the fatal storm
16. Susie Maroney's Cuba to Florida swim
15. Alan Langer's Origin comeback
14. Nadia Comaneci and her 'Perfect 10'
13. John Mclean — the paraplegic who swam the English channel
12. Cathy Freeman's 2000 Sydney Olympics win
11. Rugby World Cup - 1991 & 2003
10. Lance Armstrong
9. Nikki Lauda's crash
8. The Ashes 2005
7. Ted Whitten's lap of honour
6. Golfer Jack Newton's accident
5. Torville and Dean's perfect scores
4. Liverpool FC - Hillsborough Crush
3. Kieren Perkins' 1500m swim
2. Pat Cash wins Wimbledon in 1987
1. Australia at the World Cup

Now, I know its subjective but surely the 1983 America's cup triumph would fit in there before at least half of those, I thought it was a glaring ommision?

Yep definately # one in the tragedies stakes, especially as it is a tragedy that some people actually rate this in a sporting sense (see my earlier comments)....

I'm with you Wedge man even though it was 23 years ago and the events subsequent to some of the main players, but I can not recall a sporting event (possibly bar the Sydney Olympics) that more unified us as a nation and created such a massive feeling of euphoria.

I wasnt around back then, but i find that hard to belive, wasnt it on in the middle of the night and most people just woke up and found out Australia won? But with the WC it was 2 weeks long everyone was talking about it for weeks leading into it and after it, it not only United the country in victory but in defeat as well, it was pretty unreal the way it did that, i have many memories (blurred by beer) from that, that will stay with me for life i find it hard to belive anything came close to doing that like the WC did, but like i said i wasnt around then, im just making assumptions.

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:

Wedgie wrote:Last night on C9 they had their 20 to 1 program on Sporting Triumphs and Tragedies, as this was similar to discussions we've had recently I thought I'd list them here:

20. 1992 Olympics — Derek Redmond injured
19. Payne Stewart's plane crash
18. AFL 05/06 Grand Finals
17. Sydney to Hobart 1998 — the fatal storm
16. Susie Maroney's Cuba to Florida swim
15. Alan Langer's Origin comeback
14. Nadia Comaneci and her 'Perfect 10'
13. John Mclean — the paraplegic who swam the English channel
12. Cathy Freeman's 2000 Sydney Olympics win
11. Rugby World Cup - 1991 & 2003
10. Lance Armstrong
9. Nikki Lauda's crash
8. The Ashes 2005
7. Ted Whitten's lap of honour
6. Golfer Jack Newton's accident
5. Torville and Dean's perfect scores
4. Liverpool FC - Hillsborough Crush
3. Kieren Perkins' 1500m swim
2. Pat Cash wins Wimbledon in 1987
1. Australia at the World Cup

Now, I know its subjective but surely the 1983 America's cup triumph would fit in there before at least half of those, I thought it was a glaring ommision?

Yep definately # one in the tragedies stakes, especially as it is a tragedy that some people actually rate this in a sporting sense (see my earlier comments)....

I'm with you Wedge man even though it was 23 years ago and the events subsequent to some of the main players, but I can not recall a sporting event (possibly bar the Sydney Olympics) that more unified us as a nation and created such a massive feeling of euphoria.

I wasnt around back then, but i find that hard to belive, wasnt it on in the middle of the night and most people just woke up and found out Australia won? But with the WC it was 2 weeks long everyone was talking about it for weeks leading into it and after it, it not only United the country in victory but in defeat as well, it was pretty unreal the way it did that, i have many memories (blurred by beer) from that, that will stay with me for life i find it hard to belive anything came close to doing that like the WC did, but like i said i wasnt around then, im just making assumptions.

i dont remember the Sydney olympics having every pub in the city that was open packed to capicity on week nights either.

America's Cup and The Diva's 3 straight Melbourne Cup wins should be somewhere in the top ten.

When you talk sport tragedies the Man Utd plane crash should get a mention. to lose a whole side at once is pretty tragic. but agree with everyone else regarding Americas cup and The diva. think the soccer was a little bit high just coz it happened this year i think...

scoob wrote:When you talk sport tragedies the Man Utd plane crash should get a mention. to lose a whole side at once is pretty tragic. but agree with everyone else regarding Americas cup and The diva. think the soccer was a little bit high just coz it happened this year i think...

I think it could possibly become even bigger in years to come, due the fact that may have been the beginning of somthign big for Australia on the international stage, and the sport in this country, only time will tell for this one.

The World Cup deserved top 10 status- when I stand in the middle of Adelaide Oval, watching a game of soccer, & it's fu**ng freezing...
Yes, America's Cup triumph should still be #1 (I read the Alan Bond autobiography when in hospital with pneumonia)
& Makybe Diva's triple Melb Cups should've been top 10.

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:[
I wasnt around back then, but i find that hard to belive, wasnt it on in the middle of the night and most people just woke up and found out Australia won? But with the WC it was 2 weeks long everyone was talking about it for weeks leading into it and after it, it not only United the country in victory but in defeat as well, it was pretty unreal the way it did that, i have many memories (blurred by beer) from that, that will stay with me for life i find it hard to belive anything came close to doing that like the WC did, but like i said i wasnt around then, im just making assumptions.

i dont remember the Sydney olympics having every pub in the city that was open packed to capicity on week nights either.

The the build up to the last two weeks of the Americas Cup was huge especially as we started winning the races after being 1-3 down, as a 12 year old I'll never forget it......

A bit F***ing hard for the pubs to be open in the city in the middle of the night for an Olympics in our country when the events were largely held between 8am and 10:00pm!!!!!!

However former Colleagues told me Darling Harbour and the Rocks were as big if not bigger than what we witnessed in June 2006 in 2000 it wasn't just 4 nights it was for 15........

And it wasn't just us it was the world here partying, "Got in Aussie in ya?, No? Do you want some??"

Channel wine got it wrong again..... wouldnt mind pegging the presenter tho (not the bloke)

another grub wrote:Channel wine got it wrong again..... wouldnt mind pegging the presenter tho (not the bloke)

you are talking about what a year with Megan Gale and Mike Munro

20 to 1 is hosted by Bert Newton

scoob wrote:When you talk sport tragedies the Man Utd plane crash should get a mention. to lose a whole side at once is pretty tragic.

How about that team of rugby players from some South American country (Uruguay?) whose plane crashed in the Andes, and those who survived did so only by EATING THE DEAD?

No, really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_ ... _and_water

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:I wasnt around back then, but i find that hard to belive, wasnt it on in the middle of the night and most people just woke up and found out Australia won? But with the WC it was 2 weeks long everyone was talking about it for weeks leading into it and after it, it not only United the country in victory but in defeat as well, it was pretty unreal the way it did that, i have many memories (blurred by beer) from that, that will stay with me for life i find it hard to belive anything came close to doing that like the WC did, but like i said i wasnt around then, im just making assumptions.

You might find it hard to believe but it happened, from memory it was very early in the morning.
It was an unbelievable time, people in shops talking about it, people at work and school all talking about it. Green and gold boxing kangaroos hanging off every car. 90% of the nation wore Tshirts with yachts on them for months.
When the WC happened I was lucky to come across one person a day that wanted to talk about it, I think I saw one car with 1 flag on and 1 bloke in Rundle Mall with an Australian top.
Not even close.
Plus Johnny H would never have a jacket on him like Bob Hawke had on him that morning when he declared it a national holiday!
06 WC will be no different to the 76 WC in 30years time. It might hold a tad more prestige if we never qualify again though.
The Americas Cup will live long in the history books as a once in a lifetime event, if not rarer.

My argument however is not an America's Cup v World Cup 06 discussion, its just that at the very least the Americas Cup deserved to be in the Top 20!

Wouldn't have Ayrton Senna's crash had more of an impact tragedy wise on us more than Lauda's crash?
I don't think many people followed F! in those days, except for perhaps Alan Jones giving it a bit of profile?
Surely V8s and in particiluar either Brocky's triumphs or death would have had more of an impact on us all?

Must have employed some monkeys to create the 20-1 I thinks.