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Those bloody motor scooters

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:04 pm
by dont think do
Now I know they are cheap to run, look cool and you can park them anywhere

BUT

If they insist on traveling at 30kph expect to have some one run over the top of you.

Just seems that we are getting a growing number of them and they just putt putt around the place holding up traffic. I was always told that if you are driving a car that slow you would get a ticket but it must be ok if your on a little scooter.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:14 pm
by Squawk
I've had one for over 3 years - a 50cc version. Sold my car and got that instead. Have only done 3500kms in 3 yrs so the decision was justified I think!

Since I got mine they have certainly boomed in popularity. However, I'm regularly amazed at the way some people ride them. Having ridden a bicycle a fair bit and had my drivers licence for nearly 20 years I tend to ride my scooter in the same way as I would drive a car - ie no weaving between cars or riding in an unpredicatable way.

For my own safety I also use secondary roads in preference to 'main' roads because they have less traffic typically and often the speed limit is 50, not 60. I also look like a twerp because I ignore the fashion stakes and wear a high visibility vest.

Generally my motto is to try and be considerate of other road users and by doing so I have a better chance of arriving alive and in one piece. If I was only gonna do 30km/h I would ride a bicycle!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:00 pm
by TroyGFC
I have been planning to buy one for a few years. I have loved them since going to sth east Asia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:01 pm
by Sojourner
Why is it that a scooter can be registered and run on Aussie roads, yet the Reva Electric car cannot be?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:06 pm
by TroyGFC
i say petrol taxes and big business would have loads to do with that. Remembering that a LIberal government turns a blind eye to big company's profits and bad habits.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:29 pm
by Squawk
TroyGFC wrote:i say petrol taxes and big business would have loads to do with that. Remembering that a LIberal government turns a blind eye to big company's profits and bad habits.


There's a recently film about the death of the electric car in the USA and sure enough, the shorts that I have seen imply that the oil companies were behind its disappearance.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:54 pm
by TroyGFC
They also brought blue prints of Orbital engines which were meant to run on a oily rag.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:11 am
by Snaggletooth Tiger
TroyGFC wrote:I have been planning to buy one for a few years. I have loved them since going to sth east Asia


They're not the only thing you loved in South(yeast) Asia...
Does it feel like you're pissing razor blades or what?
You'd better see a doctor you vulgar beast! [-X

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:23 am
by Jimmy
Snaggletooth Tiger wrote:
TroyGFC wrote:I have been planning to buy one for a few years. I have loved them since going to sth east Asia


They're not the only thing you loved in South(yeast) Asia...
Does it feel like you're pissing razor blades or what?
You'd better see a doctor you vulgar beast! [-X


:P :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:56 am
by Ian
Sojourner wrote:Why is it that a scooter can be registered and run on Aussie roads, yet the Reva Electric car cannot be?


Because the scooters comply with Australian Design Dules applicable to scooters/motorcycles, if the Reva Electric car was built to comply with our design rules, it too could be registered in Australia.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:41 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Ian wrote:
Sojourner wrote:Why is it that a scooter can be registered and run on Aussie roads, yet the Reva Electric car cannot be?


Because the scooters comply with Australian Design Dules applicable to scooters/motorcycles, if the Reva Electric car was built to comply with our design rules, it too could be registered in Australia.


as i understand the makers were here a few months ago now and it got rejected, they then took it to WA who rejected it first but then went back for a second geeze. now im thinking because i hadnt heard anything that it got rejected again.

I think the electric car was complying with aussie road rules but once again its the OIL COMPANIES who dictate what we drive, to get maximum PROFITS

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:45 pm
by therisingblues
Spot on Mighty Tiger. Oil companies are at the height of their power it seems, even with the escalating climate crisis.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:49 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
last year sometime on ACA they showed a shed full of cars that didnt run on OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im not 100% sure what they ran on but whatever it was it was the CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE, but of course the GOVTS bend over to the OIL TYCOONS who end up **** us up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mind you i dont think the GOVT really mind bending over for the oil companies because of all the tax they get out of it!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :axe:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:53 pm
by dont think do
Squawk wrote:I've had one for over 3 years - a 50cc version. Sold my car and got that instead. Have only done 3500kms in 3 yrs so the decision was justified I think!

Since I got mine they have certainly boomed in popularity. However, I'm regularly amazed at the way some people ride them. Having ridden a bicycle a fair bit and had my drivers licence for nearly 20 years I tend to ride my scooter in the same way as I would drive a car - ie no weaving between cars or riding in an unpredicatable way.

For my own safety I also use secondary roads in preference to 'main' roads because they have less traffic typically and often the speed limit is 50, not 60. I also look like a twerp because I ignore the fashion stakes and wear a high visibility vest.

Generally my motto is to try and be considerate of other road users and by doing so I have a better chance of arriving alive and in one piece. If I was only gonna do 30km/h I would ride a bicycle!


Ah now I have a bright target to aim for.
"jokes"

I can see the benifits, and if you could carry a cricket bag, of golf bag etc I might even think of buying one, but then I would have to put up with drivers like me.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:06 pm
by Sojourner
Ian wrote:
Sojourner wrote:Why is it that a scooter can be registered and run on Aussie roads, yet the Reva Electric car cannot be?


Because the scooters comply with Australian Design Dules applicable to scooters/motorcycles, if the Reva Electric car was built to comply with our design rules, it too could be registered in Australia.


It has been suggested that the Reva should be eligable to be registered under the same category as a quad bike, yet I imagine that the proposal will never get off the ground due to the influence of oil companies.

I doubt I would eveer get a Reva car, yet it would be nice to see electricity companies able to compete with oil companies for business.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:15 pm
by Snaggletooth Tiger
Here's an oldie but a goodie...

Why are motor scooters like fat chicks?

Coz they're good for the ride until your mates find out! :twisted:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:25 pm
by TroyGFC
Snaggletooth Tiger wrote:Here's an oldie but a goodie...

Why are motor scooters like fat chicks?

Coz they're good for the ride until your mates find out! :twisted:


Even fat chicks need some luven too!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:53 pm
by therisingblues
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:last year sometime on ACA they showed a shed full of cars that didnt run on OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im not 100% sure what they ran on but whatever it was it was the CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE, but of course the GOVTS bend over to the OIL TYCOONS who end up **** us up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mind you i dont think the GOVT really mind bending over for the oil companies because of all the tax they get out of it!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :axe:


Mighty Tiger puts it through the center for another 6 points!
Is there a law against making a car that doesn't run on fuel? In today's environment governments should be looking at every possible alternative to a petrol run engine, it seems as though they are actively trying to thwart the development of alternative energies unless they can get a slice of the pie. Or are they just too busy bending over for Bush and the boys who have Australia right where they want us?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:20 pm
by Ian
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:as i understand the makers were here a few months ago now and it got rejected, they then took it to WA who rejected it first but then went back for a second geeze. now im thinking because i hadnt heard anything that it got rejected again.


It doesn't have to meet "road rules", thats what the drivers have to do.
It has to meet Australian Design Rules, and it doesn't, why should they get concessions that other manufacturers don't.
I can't see how WA would be any different to SA, NSW, VIC or anywhere else in Australia, they are Australian Design Rules, they apply in all states and territories.
Our design rules have been developed over a period of approx. 37 years, initially simillar to the USA regs, but in the past 15-20 years have been based a lot closer to European regulations.
We, along with Europe, have some of the most stringent design rules in the world, they are there to make travel as safe as possible, they should not be compromised, if you give concessions to one manufacturer, you have to give them to everyone.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:10 pm
by RustyCage
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Ian wrote:
Sojourner wrote:Why is it that a scooter can be registered and run on Aussie roads, yet the Reva Electric car cannot be?


Because the scooters comply with Australian Design Dules applicable to scooters/motorcycles, if the Reva Electric car was built to comply with our design rules, it too could be registered in Australia.


as i understand the makers were here a few months ago now and it got rejected, they then took it to WA who rejected it first but then went back for a second geeze. now im thinking because i hadnt heard anything that it got rejected again.

I think the electric car was complying with aussie road rules but once again its the OIL COMPANIES who dictate what we drive, to get maximum PROFITS


With the Reva Electric Car it had nothing to do with the oil companies, it was that it didn't comply to the Australian Standards. The designer who was out here last year was told what needed to be done to make it comply, but whether it happens or not, yet to be seen, depends on the cost. Remember, he's not doing it as a public service, hes trying to make money himself.