3RD O/D GAME NZ V AU 20/2/07

[rod_rooster]

Good win by NZ but what an absolute joke of a side we have become. We have gone from unbeatable to embarrassing. Our bowling is absolutely terrible.

Spot on.
I'm almost speechless.
Pathetic bowling on this tour.

Watson is a joke!

The joke made 68 today....oh thats right we conviently forgot that.
And he is the leading wicket-taker on tour.
I would say the blame must go to the other FRONTLINE bowlers as well.

Watson is a steady batsman. I do not argue that. He isn't in Australia's best side in either form of the game as a batsman but he is handy. His bowling is what is really poor. Yes he was the leading wicket taker but can you honestly say mal that you think he has bowled well in the last 3 games?

[mal]

An observation:

some of the comments on this thread remind me of what we were saying about England four weeks ago.....

Pretty good point but how much of England's turn around was them improving compared to Australia deteriorating.

Australia if playing their best side would not have done as badly as we did in this series. What i think is most disappointing is that we have flirted with form by not having Ponting and Gilchrist go to NZ. Unlucky yes, with the injuries to Symonds, Clarke and Lee but we still didn't pick the best side available from fit players. Not showing any respect to the opposition and we got what we deserved.

PONTING/GILCHRIST/SYMONDS/CLARK are not the MAIN reason we lost 3-0 in NZ
We made massive scores last 2 efforts and should have pissed it in.

WE LOST BECAUSE
LEE injured
MCGRATH 0 WICKETS
HOGG 0 WICKETS[?]
HUSSEY cant captain

ANOTHER REASON
When the 5th bowler allrounder is the leading wicket-taker on tour .......ANOTHER REASON.

[carey18]

Playing on postage stamps doesnt help

[am Bays]

Ponting, Clarke and Symonds save about 20 runs between them per game, in their actual fielding and the pressure they create in the batsmen minds knowing that they can not take the same risks running when the ball is in their area.....

[spell_check]

Good win by NZ but what an absolute joke of a side we have become. We have gone from unbeatable to embarrassing. Our bowling is absolutely terrible.

Spot on.
I'm almost speechless.
Pathetic bowling on this tour.

Watson is a joke!

The joke made 68 today....oh thats right we conviently forgot that.
And he is the leading wicket-taker on tour.
I would say the blame must go to the other FRONTLINE bowlers as well.

That's what he should be doing - batting. Same with White.

[mal]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE
BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

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MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

[mal]

Ponting, Clarke and Symonds save about 20 runs between them per game, in their actual fielding and the pressure they create in the batsmen minds knowing that they can not take the same risks running when the ball is in their area.....

Agree norMALly save 20-25 runs
But on those 2 inch grounds the ball gets fielded by the people in the crowd more often.
SYMONDS and CO cant field balls that are going 50 feet over thier heads all day.

[magpie in the 80's]

Ponting, Clarke and Symonds save about 20 runs between them per game, in their actual fielding and the pressure they create in the batsmen minds knowing that they can not take the same risks running when the ball is in their area.....

Agree norMALly save 20-25 runs
But on those 2 inch grounds the ball gets fielded by the people in the crowd more often.
SYMONDS and CO cant field balls that are going 50 feet over thier heads all day.

hey MAL when did MT79 get a cricket ground named after him

[mal]

Ponting, Clarke and Symonds save about 20 runs between them per game, in their actual fielding and the pressure they create in the batsmen minds knowing that they can not take the same risks running when the ball is in their area.....

Agree norMALly save 20-25 runs
But on those 2 inch grounds the ball gets fielded by the people in the crowd more often.
SYMONDS and CO cant field balls that are going 50 feet over thier heads all day.

hey MAL when did MT79 get a cricket ground named after him

[rod_rooster]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE
BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

##########################################################
MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

Mal i was at my own cricket training when you made those comments regarding Watson winning it for Australia. I would have definitely argued the point had i seen it at the time. Anyways regardless i haven't had a go at Watson's batting today. I've acknowledged the he is an above average batsman and also i've pointed out that against an attack like that and in those conditions most above average batsman should do well. Still you do have to do it and to Watson's credit he did. He probably missed out on a big opportunity and even you would admit that. He really should have made more but yes he did well with the bat. There you go mal i've acknowledged his performance.

Having said that can you answer my question? Do you think he has bowled well in the past 3 games? Also mal if he couldn't bowl do you think he would make the Australian side as a batsman alone? And try to answer without stats. You have played a lot of cricket and know as well as i that a bowler can bowl beautifully all day and not get a wicket then a guy can come on and bowl a few overs of crap and pick up 5 wickets.

[stampy]

i tuned in with the kiwis needing 46 of 29 and i nearly ghru something thru the telly, in the luck department over the last overs nz had all the luck, i concede our bowling is shite at the mo but just a smidge of luck and we win the game. brackens 1st ball of the last over was crap inswinging fulltoss and mcullum puts it into the tasman. the commentators on fox were calling it a whitewash - give me a break you kiwi wankers!!!! how many are out of our first choice side? i hope we get back to full strength sometime during the world cup and come up against the mighty black caps and cane their candy arses!!!!!! preferebly in the final

[Dutchy]

Sad thing is NZ aint that good!!!

[mal]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE



BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

##########################################################
MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

Mal i was at my own cricket training when you made those comments regarding Watson winning it for Australia. I would have definitely argued the point had i seen it at the time. Anyways regardless i haven't had a go at Watson's batting today. I've acknowledged the he is an above average batsman and also i've pointed out that against an attack like that and in those conditions most above average batsman should do well. Still you do have to do it and to Watson's credit he did. He probably missed out on a big opportunity and even you would admit that. He really should have made more but yes he did well with the bat. There you go mal i've acknowledged his performance.

Having said that can you answer my question? Do you think he has bowled well in the past 3 games? Also mal if he couldn't bowl do you think he would make the Australian side as a batsman alone? And try to answer without stats. You have played a lot of cricket and know as well as i that a bowler can bowl beautifully all day and not get a wicket then a guy can come on and bowl a few overs of crap and pick up 5 wickets.

PARAGRAPH 1 BATTING
He made 68[69] good innings we both agree
Disappointing he didnt get 100 yes and no NZ were 4/41 early so 68 now looks good.
I honestly reckon he was not out today that LBW was too high[but dumb shot]
BATTING RATING 8/10

PARAGRAPH 2 BOWLING
IST GAME bowled steady but about 4/10
2nd game on a primary school ground 3/58 very good effort as they made 5/337 ...8/10
3rd game GARBAGE his worst effort + as the 2nd most experienced bowler that
was a dissapointing effort about 2/10
Overall he got 5 top order batsman out who were well set each game.[NOT THAT CHEAP]
WOULD HE MAKE IT BATSMAN only...not in o/d cricket [tests maybe]

WHY WE LOST 3-0 IN THE SERIES

The frontline bowlers cost us the games especially from overs 25-50
MCGRATH 3/10
TAIT 5/10
BRACKEN 5/10
JOHNSON 4/10
HOGG 3/10
WATSON 5/10

Proven experienced bowlers HOGG/MCGRATH O WICKETS
I blame them as the batsman batted extremely well last 2 games.

What were you ratings of the bowlers ?


PS I need a statuary declaration that you were at cricket practice

[magpie in the 80's]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE



BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

##########################################################
MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

Mal i was at my own cricket training when you made those comments regarding Watson winning it for Australia. I would have definitely argued the point had i seen it at the time. Anyways regardless i haven't had a go at Watson's batting today. I've acknowledged the he is an above average batsman and also i've pointed out that against an attack like that and in those conditions most above average batsman should do well. Still you do have to do it and to Watson's credit he did. He probably missed out on a big opportunity and even you would admit that. He really should have made more but yes he did well with the bat. There you go mal i've acknowledged his performance.

Having said that can you answer my question? Do you think he has bowled well in the past 3 games? Also mal if he couldn't bowl do you think he would make the Australian side as a batsman alone? And try to answer without stats. You have played a lot of cricket and know as well as i that a bowler can bowl beautifully all day and not get a wicket then a guy can come on and bowl a few overs of crap and pick up 5 wickets.

PARAGRAPH 1 BATTING
He made 68[69] good innings we both agree
Disappointing he didnt get 100 yes and no NZ were 4/41 early so 68 now looks good.
I honestly reckon he was not out today that LBW was too high[but dumb shot]
BATTING RATING 8/10

PARAGRAPH 2 BOWLING
IST GAME bowled steady but about 4/10
2nd game on a primary school ground 3/58 very good effort as they made 5/337 ...8/10
3rd game GARBAGE his worst effort + as the 2nd most experienced bowler that
was a dissapointing effort about 2/10
Overall he got 5 top order batsman out who were well set each game.[NOT THAT CHEAP]
WOULD HE MAKE IT BATSMAN only...not in o/d cricket [tests maybe]

WHY WE LOST 3-0 IN THE SERIES

The frontline bowlers cost us the games especially from overs 25-50
MCGRATH 3/10
TAIT 5/10
BRACKEN 5/10
JOHNSON 4/10
HOGG 3/10
WATSON 5/10

Proven experienced bowlers HOGG/MCGRATH O WICKETS
I blame them as the batsman batted extremely well last 2 games.

What were you ratings of the bowlers ?


rate them 2.5. do i post here or best jokes MAL

[rod_rooster]

Yep, i agree the frontline bowlers were poor. I think it's pretty hard to actually rate them given how badly they all did. I think people have been a bit harsh on Hogg. He's come on when the batsmen have been set and smashing it all over the place. As a spin bowler on grounds that small that is a very tough ask. He didn't handle it very well though.

As for Watson's second game the end result looks OK with 3/58 but did he actually bowl well? The figures look OK but that doesn't mean he landed it in the right spots.

By the way i actually joined in fielding training for the first time in god knows how long so the coach will easily be able to testify to my attendance. No way he wouldn't have noticed that

[Punk Rooster]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE
BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

##########################################################
MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

You bring it on yourself Mal, by continually proclaiming Watson to be God's gift to cricket.
In your endeavour to convince us that he invented the game, you're actually driving a wedge.
You selective quoting of his stats does not go un-noticed, hence the backlash which you percieve as victimisation.

Match 1:
SR Watson c Bond b Vettori 8 32 32 0 0 25.00 - very pedestrian
SR Watson 4 0 28 0 7.00

Match 2:
SR Watson DNB
SR Watson 10 0 58 3 5.80

Match 3:
SR Watson lbw b Patel 68 104 69 8 0 98.55
SR Watson 10 0 88 2 8.80 (1nb, 1w)- Poor bowlin effort

Shane Watson has bowled 24 Overs, & taken 5/174 @ a rate of 7.25 runs/over, @ an average of 34.8
Shane Watson has batted for 136 mins, made 76 @ an average of 38, off 101 balls @ a run rate of 0.75 runs/ball

[mal]

mal you are just getting ridiculous now. "Watson will win it for the Aussies". What a joke. Gets 2 wickets with blokes going for the slog. Conceeds 15 off his final over 14 of which the number 10 made. Face facts he isn't a very good bowler.

I made an incorrect assessment, I thought WATSON would win it for Australia.
I had the balls to make a comment like that.
More often then not I get it right.
I was wrong.

When I made that call not 1 person challenged that WATSON quote at the time
BUT remarkably when he was clobbered in the last 2 overs in came the critics.

And I had the balls when he batted today to give you up to date posts of his innings
all day and was right 68[69] 2ND TOP SCORE
BUT remarkably when he succeeded the critics would not acknowledge his great innings

##########################################################
MORAL OF THE STORY
When he fails the snipers have a field day
When he succeeds they will not acknowledge his efforts
I reckon thats piss weak personally
###########################################################


Congratulations to all the WATSON knockers 2/88 [10] start celebrating.
I did when he took 3/58 last game
And then made 68 today
And not 1 of you WATSON knockers had the balls to lower your prides and
appreciate those 2 magnificent efforts.

Anyways its good fun and keep it going.

Regards

MAL

You bring it on yourself Mal, by continually proclaiming Watson to be God's gift to cricket.
In your endeavour to convince us that he invented the game, you're actually driving a wedge.
You selective quoting of his stats does not go un-noticed, hence the backlash which you percieve as victimisation.

Match 1:
SR Watson c Bond b Vettori 8 32 32 0 0 25.00 - very pedestrian
SR Watson 4 0 28 0 7.00

Match 2:
SR Watson DNB
SR Watson 10 0 58 3 5.80

Match 3:
SR Watson lbw b Patel 68 104 69 8 0 98.55
SR Watson 10 0 88 2 8.80 (1nb, 1w)- Poor bowlin effort

Shane Watson has bowled 24 Overs, & taken 5/174 @ a rate of 7.25 runs/over, @ an average of 34.8
Shane Watson has batted for 136 mins, made 76 @ an average of 38, off 101 balls @ a run rate of 0.75 runs/ball

Selective comments AGAIN from you
you highlighted the 8 runs not the 68[69]
you highlighted the 2/88[10] not the 3/58[10]

you did not highlight he took the most wickets on tour
LILLEE, SPOFFORTH, MILLER, GRIMMETT MCGRATH and HOGG didnt take a wicket on this tour.

[Dogwatcher]

WE LOST BECAUSE
LEE injured
MCGRATH 0 WICKETS
HOGG 0 WICKETS[?]
HUSSEY cant captain

ANOTHER REASON
When the 5th bowler allrounder is the leading wicket-taker on tour .......ANOTHER REASON.

Mal - you didn't have Watson 88 runs off 10 overs in your reasons why we lost.
If you're gonna have a crack at others for blindly having a go at Watson all the time fair enough, at least swallow YOUR pride and acknowledge that he too bowled pus if you want a balanced arguement.

[SOTTERS]

Troy Cooley must be some bowling coach.

[Punk Rooster]

Selective comments AGAIN from you
you highlighted the 8 runs not the 68[69]
you highlighted the 2/88[10] not the 3/58[10]

Why, are you the only one allowed to use selective comments/stats?