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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Squids » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:45 pm

Stumps

lead 325

6 down



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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:02 pm

partnership has a lot of similarities to the dravid laxman one against the aussies.

noone has ever got a triple century for new zealand either, martin crowe's 299 is the best, would be great if he could knock that off. reckon they may bat for a little longer tomorrow, given they are 1-0 up in the series, i doubt they will declare overnight and give them a whole day to chase 325. give mccullum an hour to triple up then declare
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Grahaml » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:01 pm

325 in a day is a decent run rate. India can't just take their time to get there. NZ would ideally want the full day at India or very close to it. Maybe give McCullum 4 or 5 overs to get 300. An hour is too long. If NZ bat for an hour you'd expect 50 runs off 7 or 8 overs. With the loss of overs with a change of innings you're talking 375 off 80 overs. Very hard to score at 4.7 for a that long let alone on day 5. Tomorrow we'll quickly see whether McCullum is a captain who thinks win first or not lose first. We'll also see whether he's a team man first or an individual first.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Q. » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:20 pm

He should take a leaf out of Clarke's book. Bat for 3-4 overs and declare.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:23 pm

Grahaml wrote:325 in a day is a decent run rate. India can't just take their time to get there. NZ would ideally want the full day at India or very close to it. Maybe give McCullum 4 or 5 overs to get 300. An hour is too long. If NZ bat for an hour you'd expect 50 runs off 7 or 8 overs. With the loss of overs with a change of innings you're talking 375 off 80 overs. Very hard to score at 4.7 for a that long let alone on day 5. Tomorrow we'll quickly see whether McCullum is a captain who thinks win first or not lose first. We'll also see whether he's a team man first or an individual first.


Why does he have to declare, NZ are 1-0 up in a two test series arnt they?
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Jim05 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:33 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Grahaml wrote:325 in a day is a decent run rate. India can't just take their time to get there. NZ would ideally want the full day at India or very close to it. Maybe give McCullum 4 or 5 overs to get 300. An hour is too long. If NZ bat for an hour you'd expect 50 runs off 7 or 8 overs. With the loss of overs with a change of innings you're talking 375 off 80 overs. Very hard to score at 4.7 for a that long let alone on day 5. Tomorrow we'll quickly see whether McCullum is a captain who thinks win first or not lose first. We'll also see whether he's a team man first or an individual first.


Why does he have to declare, NZ are 1-0 up in a two test series arnt they?

Exactly, keep them out there as long as possible
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Squids » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:37 pm

Bat till lunch if you can then see if you can get a couple of early wickets to get India nervous.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Q. » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:38 pm

No way will India go for the win tomorrow
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:08 pm

Just keep batting. India would.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:13 pm

Q. wrote:No way will India go for the win tomorrow


it is a two test series, why wouldnt they?
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Squids » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:14 pm

They don't treat draws the way we do here in Australia.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Q. » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:22 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Q. wrote:No way will India go for the win tomorrow


it is a two test series, why wouldnt they?


Because they're pissweak
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby jackpot jim » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:23 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Grahaml wrote:325 in a day is a decent run rate. India can't just take their time to get there. NZ would ideally want the full day at India or very close to it. Maybe give McCullum 4 or 5 overs to get 300. An hour is too long. If NZ bat for an hour you'd expect 50 runs off 7 or 8 overs. With the loss of overs with a change of innings you're talking 375 off 80 overs. Very hard to score at 4.7 for a that long let alone on day 5. Tomorrow we'll quickly see whether McCullum is a captain who thinks win first or not lose first. We'll also see whether he's a team man first or an individual first.


Why does he have to declare, NZ are 1-0 up in a two test series arnt they?

EXACTLY ! Would be different if they were 1 - nil down, declare straight away and go for it.
Gotta remember that the pitch is now an absolute road and only 1 wicket fell on day 4 so getting 10 on day 5 will be a tought ask. Being 1 - 0 up, the last thing they want to do is lose after one of the great comebacks off all time. 4th innings targets seem to be a lot more gettable these days especially on this road.
Of course McCullum would have a thought of 300 in his mind, Who wouldn't? But i dont think it will cloud his decision at all in regards of how they want to go about tomorrow, whether they go for a win or make the game safe 1st, could do both and couldnt blame them being 1 - nil up.

Amazing effort, i was watching when they were 5 for a 100 odd and situation was hopeless and to bat session after session after session is simply amazing and these kind of turnarounds are what make Test cricket such a great game. Especially when its India that are copping it :D
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:54 pm

They won't give India a sniff.
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Dogmatic » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:36 pm

NZ would count this as a win from the position they were in.
Will declare with a lead of 400,
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:44 pm

Dogmatic wrote:NZ would count this as a win from the position they were in.
Will declare with a lead of 400,


Especially given they effectively locked up the series win too
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Jim05 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:50 pm

Dogmatic wrote:NZ would count this as a win from the position they were in.
Will declare with a lead of 400,

I wouldnt declare, keep them out in the field. Declaring serves no purpose to NZ at all, highly unlikely they will get the 10 wickets
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Panther Pack » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:17 am

New Zealand 1-nil up in the series do not need to do anything.

First time in a long time New Zealand would have won consecutive series against teams ranked higher than them.

McCullum has been unreal this series!!!!!!!
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby heater31 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:31 am

McCullum needs to get 300 then get Neesham over the line for a ton by then they should be over 400 up and only 2 sessions left in the match....
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Re: Other International Cricket

Postby Dogmatic » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:44 am

Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:NZ would count this as a win from the position they were in.
Will declare with a lead of 400,

I wouldnt declare, keep them out in the field. Declaring serves no purpose to NZ at all, highly unlikely they will get the 10 wickets

It's a free crack, give them a target that they can't achieve and you never know what could happen
Just make sure they can't win unlike the redbacks!
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