Port (Power Reserves) 2014

[SANFLnut]

Wrong. Port seized on the fact that West wouldn't guarantee he played in their league midfield all year to move him to Magpies where he ......wait for it..........didn't play in their league midfield all year.

No ongoing issue with how he was managed.

[Booney]

Wrong. Port ceased on the fact that West wouldn't guarantee he played in their league midfield all year to move him to Magpies where he ......wait for it..........didn't play in their league midfield all year.

No ongoing issue with how he was managed.

I can only assume you didn't see many Magpie games last year. Newton played through the midfield for much of the last half of 2013.

Facts aren't important here though.

[SANFLnut]

Facts are important on issues like this.

Did Newton play in their league midfield all year?
Did the Magpies play him in the SANFL reserves side last year?
Was one of the motivating factors in moving Power players, like Newton and Young, to try and boost the magpies performance?

Pretty sure you can give accurate answers to 1 and 2.

[the observer]

So what whats the big deal are people that worried about Port magpies and what they are fielding Summerton is getting this and not in budget So what get on with it

[beenreal]

Facts are important on issues like this.

Did Newton play in their league midfield all year?
Did the Magpies play him in the SANFL reserves side last year?
Was one of the motivating factors in moving Power players, like Newton and Young, to try and boost the magpies performance?

Pretty sure you can give accurate answers to 1 and 2.

1. Answer provided by Booney. Look it up.

2. Answer provided by Beenreal. Look it up.

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

[whufc]

Facts are important on issues like this.

Did Newton play in their league midfield all year?
Did the Magpies play him in the SANFL reserves side last year?
Was one of the motivating factors in moving Power players, like Newton and Young, to try and boost the magpies performance?

Pretty sure you can give accurate answers to 1 and 2.

1. Answer provided by Booney. Look it up.

2. Answer provided by Beenreal. Look it up.

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

It was only last year that you were 'one club' and we had a team in the SANFL that was actually paying for them

[saintal]

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

So it’s not backward that a player can now be forced to play against the club that developed him in a match for premiership points? The Magpies aren’t the ones paying him, the Power are. Only emphasises the fact that the Magpies are nothing but a hollow reserves team now and this whole set up is a joke.

[topsywaldron]

So it’s not backward that a player can now be forced to play against the club that developed him in a match for premiership points? The Magpies aren’t the ones paying him, the Power are. Only emphasises the fact that the Magpies are nothing but a hollow reserves team now and this whole comp is a joke.

Fixed that up for you Saintal.

[SANFLnut]

Facts are important on issues like this.

Did Newton play in their league midfield all year?
Did the Magpies play him in the SANFL reserves side last year?
Was one of the motivating factors in moving Power players, like Newton and Young, to try and boost the magpies performance?

Pretty sure you can give accurate answers to 1 and 2.

1. Answer provided by Booney. Look it up.

2. Answer provided by Beenreal. Look it up.

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

Glad we agree I was correct.

Have Port announced their SANFL squad to play South yet? Please post here if so.

[Big Phil]

Have Port announced their SANFL squad to play South yet? Please post here if so.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2 ... rial-games

[beenreal]

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

So it’s not backward that a player can now be forced to play against the club that developed him in a match for premiership points? The Magpies aren’t the ones paying him, the Power are. Only emphasises the fact that the Magpies are nothing but a hollow reserves team now and this whole set up is a joke.

Last time I looked, no-one was actually forcing anyone to play in the AFL. Any player who doesn't like the setup is perfectly welcome to go back to his $ANFL club and play for peanuts.

And most important, the Magpies and Power are not separate entities. They are the Port Adelaide Football Club.

[SANFLnut]

Port Adelaide trial match squad v South Adelaide
Steven Summerton
Ben Haren
Robbie Young
Ben Sawford
Angus Bruggermann
Anthony Biemans
Henry Slattery
Danny Butcher
Jake Johansen
Matt Venter
Louis Sharrad
Aseri Raikiwasa
Jake Neade*
Brendon Ah Chee*
Mason Shaw*
Sam Gray*
Mitch Harvey*
Cameron Hitchcock*
Karl Amon*
Ben Newton*
Kane Mitchell*
Tom Logan*
Sam Colquhoun*
Sam Russell*

[Booney]

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

So it’s not backward that a player can now be forced to play against the club that developed him in a match for premiership points? The Magpies aren’t the ones paying him, the Power are. Only emphasises the fact that the Magpies are nothing but a hollow reserves team now and this whole set up is a joke.

How many of Ports SANFL side (and AFL listed) are from SANFL junior programs?

Jake Neade*
Brendon Ah Chee*
Mason Shaw*
Sam Gray*
Mitch Harvey*
Cameron Hitchcock*
Karl Amon*
Ben Newton*
Kane Mitchell*
Tom Logan*
Sam Colquhoun*
Sam Russell*

[SANFLnut]

Bottom line is, only the backward $ANFL Commission could ever have conceived a ludicrous situation that forced footballers to actually play AGAINST the club that was paying them. Finally under the new system a wrong has been righted.

So it’s not backward that a player can now be forced to play against the club that developed him in a match for premiership points? The Magpies aren’t the ones paying him, the Power are. Only emphasises the fact that the Magpies are nothing but a hollow reserves team now and this whole set up is a joke.

How many of Ports SANFL side (and AFL listed) are from SANFL junior programs?

Jake Neade*
Brendon Ah Chee*
Mason Shaw*
Sam Gray*
Mitch Harvey*
Cameron Hitchcock*
Karl Amon*
Ben Newton*
Kane Mitchell*
Tom Logan*
Sam Colquhoun*
Sam Russell*

From that list Harvey (North), Hitchcock (Glenelg), Colquhoun (Centrals) plus Gray from Magpies.

Would expect Redden (Eagles) and Hombsch (Sturt) to spend some time there too.

[Tech1]

On paper that side should finish top. Don't agree with the Summerton decision to let him play for them this year and surprised clubs haven't kicked up a fuss about this and some of there other signings. Can see the Crows being about middle of the table but with the concessions given to Port i'd be surprised if they're not top 3 at the least. Question, can the "$400 a game", not age limit on signing players and the academy (reserves) team be changed next year or is it locked in for a certain amount of years unlike the Crows deal which can be changed year to year depending on how strong or weak they are?

what are you talking about? The rule is they are allowed 15 top up players , 1 can be a leadership players which has to be over 28. Only the leadership player can be paid over $400 a game. Port asked if Sommerton (25) could be used as there leadership player, to which the SANFL said no. Henry Slattery will be port's leadership player. Port haven't broken any of the rules set out by the SANFL directors, so how can they kick up a fuss?

Really? So Summerton is playing for $400 a game is he ? oh that's right you back ended the contract, yup you didn't break the rules but i still don't think he's just getting 400 a game this year. I suppose Motlop, Krakouer and to a lesser extent Raikiwasa are also going to be paid $400 a game? Give me a break.

yes he is only getting $400 a game once he turns 28 he will be made the leadership player, which will allow him to earn more. Do you actually think after all the hard work to get the deal done port would actually do dodgy deals.

Yeah i do, it would be nothing new for clubs to bend the rules if there is a chance they can. IMHO, both clubs should have to sign 15 players like Port are this year for the SANFL league side (none of this borrowing players like the Crows are doing), players can't have played on a state league side for three years, only to be paid $400 a game and no special allowances for a leadership player, this would be even for both the Crows and Power sides and make it impossible to bend the rules. Oh and remove the Reserves/Academy side at Port for 2015 onwards. Never should've been allowed in the first place.

[kickinit]

Yeah i do, it would be nothing new for clubs to bend the rules if there is a chance they can. IMHO, both clubs should have to sign 15 players like Port are this year for the SANFL league side (none of this borrowing players like the Crows are doing), players can't have played on a state league side for three years, only to be paid $400 a game and no special allowances for a leadership player, this would be even for both the Crows and Power sides and make it impossible to bend the rules. Oh and remove the Reserves/Academy side at Port for 2015 onwards. Never should've been allowed in the first place.

how would it make it impossible to bend the rules. you think these players are getting more then $400 a game which must mean they are getting money under the table. Doesn't matter what rules you set out they can still hand money under the table. Whats wrong with Port having a reserves/ academy side?

[The Sleeping Giant]

So what whats the big deal are people that worried about Port magpies and what they are fielding Summerton is getting this and not in budget So what get on with it

What?

[Tech1]

Yeah i do, it would be nothing new for clubs to bend the rules if there is a chance they can. IMHO, both clubs should have to sign 15 players like Port are this year for the SANFL league side (none of this borrowing players like the Crows are doing), players can't have played on a state league side for three years, only to be paid $400 a game and no special allowances for a leadership player, this would be even for both the Crows and Power sides and make it impossible to bend the rules. Oh and remove the Reserves/Academy side at Port for 2015 onwards. Never should've been allowed in the first place.

how would it make it impossible to bend the rules. you think these players are getting more then $400 a game which must mean they are getting money under the table. Doesn't matter what rules you set out they can still hand money under the table. Whats wrong with Port having a reserves/ academy side?

Doesn't make it impossible just takes out the option of saying, hey we will pay you $400 a game for the next two years, then pay you $100,000 to be our leadership player if you stick around. Keep it simple and even for both AFL reserves sides, there is no need for it. Nothing to be gained by having it.

[the observer]

Any news on Krakourer is he still training still in contention or gone I hope he is given another go

[RustyCage]

He played in the reserves on the weekend.