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Postby scoob » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:38 am

John Butcher is the worst AFL player I think I have ever seen.

I actually feel a tad sorry and embarassed for him - he struggles to get a kick and when he does it looks like he has never handle a football before in his life. How this bloke is a professional AFL player is beyond me.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby HH3 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:43 am

Is it just me, or are the umps letting people throw or drop the ball now without penalising them?

I've seen some great tackles, and after being swung around 720 degrees the guys just dropped it or thrown it 15m away, and its play on. I turned 2 games off because it was shitting me so much.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby saintal » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:21 am

HH3 wrote:Is it just me, or are the umps letting people throw or drop the ball now without penalising them?

I've seen some great tackles, and after being swung around 720 degrees the guys just dropped it or thrown it 15m away, and its play on. I turned 2 games off because it was shitting me so much.


I saw a total of about 15 mins of footy over the w/end so cant comment, but certainly this was happening last season too. Incorrect disposal doesn't seem to be in the rule book anymore.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby bennymacca » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:30 am

HH3 wrote:Is it just me, or are the umps letting people throw or drop the ball now without penalising them?

I've seen some great tackles, and after being swung around 720 degrees the guys just dropped it or thrown it 15m away, and its play on. I turned 2 games off because it was shitting me so much.


They haven't paid a free kick for incorrect disposal for a few years now. Priority is to keep the game flowing, which in general is a good thing, but sometimes it is a bit stupid when they don't pay it
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:46 am

There never was a rule for incorrect disposal, if the ball comes out in the tackle its play on.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby HH3 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:52 am

Wedgie wrote:There never was a rule for incorrect disposal, if the ball comes out in the tackle its play on.


There definitely is a rule for incorrect disposal. If you run 30m with 2 bounces and get chased down and just drop the ball, its holding the ball every day of the week.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Ted E Bear » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:16 am

Wedgie wrote:There never was a rule for incorrect disposal, if the ball comes out in the tackle its play on.

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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:21 am

HH3 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:There never was a rule for incorrect disposal, if the ball comes out in the tackle its play on.


There definitely is a rule for incorrect disposal. If you run 30m with 2 bounces and get chased down and just drop the ball, its holding the ball every day of the week.

Exactly, there is a rule for holding the ball.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby HH3 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:40 am

Wedgie wrote:
HH3 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:There never was a rule for incorrect disposal, if the ball comes out in the tackle its play on.


There definitely is a rule for incorrect disposal. If you run 30m with 2 bounces and get chased down and just drop the ball, its holding the ball every day of the week.

Exactly, there is a rule for holding the ball.


In the context of what I was talking about, its the same thing.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Ted E Bear » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:45 am

What 'category' does a throw come under. Holding the Ball?
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:48 am

Players do not have to successfully handball or kick the ball, but must demonstrate to the umpire they are making a genuine effort to dispose of the football.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Ted E Bear » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:17 pm

and if they don't, whats it called?
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:21 pm

Ted E Bear wrote:and if they don't, whats it called?

Holding the ball.
Hence my point.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby cracka » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:23 pm

In the words of the great Bill Lawry.

Got him. Yessssssss.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:25 pm

How so?
I said there was no rule for incorrect disposal and there is a rule for holding the ball, thought it was clear enough but obviously not for some.
The ball can come out in a manner of ways from a tackle legally not necessarily from a handball or kick.
I reiterate there is no rule for Incorrect Disposal.
There is a rule for holding the ball.
I've laughed at ignorant people for years screaming out dropping the ball or incorrect disposal and will continue to do so.
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AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby bennymacca » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:38 pm

So unless I am reading it wrong, the rule specifically mentions incorrect disposal wedgie. Page 50

15.3 free kIcks reLatING to dIsPosaL of the footBaLL
15.3.1 correct disposal
A Player Correctly Disposes of the football if the Player Kicks or Handballs the football.
15.3.2 Incorrect disposal and Payment of free kick
When the football is in play, a Free Kick shall be awarded against a Player who hands the football to another Player or throws the football.


http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/2012/AM_ ... L_laws.pdf
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby cracka » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:38 pm

cracka wrote:In the words of the great Bill Lawry.

Got him. Yessssssss.

But Wedgie comes back with a forehand smash down the line. Fantastic play from these 2 champions.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby cracka » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:40 pm

Wedgie wrote:How so?
I said there was no rule for incorrect disposal and there is a rule for holding the ball, thought it was clear enough but obviously not for some.
The ball can come out in a manner of ways from a tackle legally not necessarily from a handball or kick.
I reiterate there is no rule for Incorrect Disposal.
There is a rule for holding the ball.
I've laughed at ignorant people for years screaming out dropping the ball or incorrect disposal and will continue to do so.

only saw your reply after my post. Have corrected things.
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby Ted E Bear » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:41 pm

I think someone is taking us for a ride
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Re: AFL - Round 1 - general discussion (and live scores)

Postby cracka » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:42 pm

cracka wrote:
cracka wrote:In the words of the great Bill Lawry.

Got him. Yessssssss.

But Wedgie comes back with a forehand smash down the line. Fantastic play from these 2 champions.

FFS, the problem with being in & out of the truck is missing some posts while writing mine.
But here comes bennymacca down the outside with a lunge on the line.
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