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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby atlantis » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:16 pm

Spoke to him a week or so ago and he said he was keen for a year off and that coaching in the SFL might be a step backwards. Strong morals so if he did go back to the SFL it would only be to HV IMO. Dont think he'd ever coach against one of his old clubs
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Look Good In Leather » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:24 pm

cracka wrote:
chopper7 wrote:Not a chance the HFL will drop the interleague game Legsman especially after the success in drew this year. We will still have the bye for the Country Champs, which the hills have no say in because it is inforced by the community football league. An 11 team comp will bring in two extra byes and will drag the season out to long.

Are you sure games cant be played on the country champs weekend. Our country div play that weekend (every year) & so do Southern league who had players representing the southern zone.


I understand the Community Football League has banned any senior country football in SA being played that week from 2015.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:08 pm

Not sure whats happening with Steve Wallace coaching wise next year, he was going to have this year off be we begged him to go on for 1 more year. Do know he has been fantastic for Onkas, not just an A grade coach but a whole of club coach. Out of the blue he pops into modis training (on his nights off from senior coaching duties) & helps. Wish him all the best, an asset to any club.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:10 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
cracka wrote:
chopper7 wrote:Not a chance the HFL will drop the interleague game Legsman especially after the success in drew this year. We will still have the bye for the Country Champs, which the hills have no say in because it is inforced by the community football league. An 11 team comp will bring in two extra byes and will drag the season out to long.

Are you sure games cant be played on the country champs weekend. Our country div play that weekend (every year) & so do Southern league who had players representing the southern zone.


I understand the Community Football League has banned any senior country football in SA being played that week from 2015.

Very interesting, I wonder if the HFL will go back to starting country div a week earlier so their GF is the weekend before the central GF.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:50 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
cracka wrote:
chopper7 wrote:Not a chance the HFL will drop the interleague game Legsman especially after the success in drew this year. We will still have the bye for the Country Champs, which the hills have no say in because it is inforced by the community football league. An 11 team comp will bring in two extra byes and will drag the season out to long.

Are you sure games cant be played on the country champs weekend. Our country div play that weekend (every year) & so do Southern league who had players representing the southern zone.


I understand the Community Football League has banned any senior country football in SA being played that week from 2015.


How bout the CFL just faaaaaaark off and leave the country leagues alone. Leave it up to the leagues, having a weekend off so 6-8 guys from each league can play in front of half a dozen pigs with their snouts in the trough is a joke.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:23 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
cracka wrote:
chopper7 wrote:Not a chance the HFL will drop the interleague game Legsman especially after the success in drew this year. We will still have the bye for the Country Champs, which the hills have no say in because it is inforced by the community football league. An 11 team comp will bring in two extra byes and will drag the season out to long.

Are you sure games cant be played on the country champs weekend. Our country div play that weekend (every year) & so do Southern league who had players representing the southern zone.


I understand the Community Football League has banned any senior country football in SA being played that week from 2015.

Hopefully they get a clue & move it to the middle weekend of the July school holidays as thats when people go away. Absolutely ridiculous forcing leagues to not play on the first weekend of those holidays.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby sideview » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:28 pm

Well said Days they are totally stuffing up country football.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby has been » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:47 am

Interesting development in the relegation saga. With Sedan now heading to RMFL means the plans for an 8 team country are a bit out of wack now. HFL no longer entertaining an 11 team central competition. Interesting time ahead for your crew legs man. Believe the HFL has solid legal opinion in relation to your specific case. Interesting note that the super coach picked up on the non payment to your players as well. Money dried up...................... one of your backers not what was portrayed ????? Inform us legs man. The super coach knows his stuff and is well connected.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:16 pm

has been wrote:Interesting development in the relegation saga. With Sedan now heading to RMFL means the plans for an 8 team country are a bit out of wack now. HFL no longer entertaining an 11 team central competition. Interesting time ahead for your crew legs man. Believe the HFL has solid legal opinion in relation to your specific case. Interesting note that the super coach picked up on the non payment to your players as well. Money dried up...................... one of your backers not what was portrayed ????? Inform us legs man. The super coach knows his stuff and is well connected.


Are Sedan going to RMFL or Riverland independent? They will get bigger hidings in RMFL than they do now, its a much better comp than Hills country
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Champ » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:46 pm

has been wrote:Interesting development in the relegation saga. With Sedan now heading to RMFL means the plans for an 8 team country are a bit out of wack now. HFL no longer entertaining an 11 team central competition. Interesting time ahead for your crew legs man. Believe the HFL has solid legal opinion in relation to your specific case. Interesting note that the super coach picked up on the non payment to your players as well. Money dried up...................... one of your backers not what was portrayed ????? Inform us legs man. The super coach knows his stuff and is well connected.


Since you pair of twats are so well connected then you should be posting facts and not asking questions in order to attempt to create rumours.

Regardless I think sedan are one of two sides potentially exiting the league this year...
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:57 pm

Players paid - asked committee member and verified.
Club strong financially and recruiting strongly for next season.
The comp will be a farce if the top tier premier is relegated to play in Country div.
HFL stakeholders and the clubs must look at the situation logically and take all factors into account:
Number of participants at each club
Facilities
What is in the best interests of Hills footy
As stated by many here it is now up to the clubs to show common sense and ensure change is implemented considering the above points.
Do we really want to lose more junior participants instead of growing our competition?
The decision makers will be judged on their willingness to improve our league with this important stage of the competition structure.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:04 pm

And by all accounts all players are staying regardless of the decision and comp Echunga plays in.
Add Clint Guy , Henke, plus a couple more and it gives the Country sides something to look forward to should we be relegated.
That should ensure more players from other clubs leave after hideous results in Country div.
Good means of promoting the Hills footy league - not!
Does Echunga get the same points allocation as Mt Lofty if they are relegated?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby overthehill » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:06 pm

I believe under APPS, relegation and promotion are not taken into consideration. As Mt Lofty and Echunga both finished top i believe they will both be allocated 9 points. I've also noticed that HFL Country division is now rated a category 1 league meaning all departing players attract 3 points at their new destination rather than the original 2. I'm also lead to believe they will be introducing a cap to the number of under age players that attract a -1. Each team sheet will only be able to receive a maximum of -2 regardless of the number of underage players listed.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:35 pm

Surely Mt Lofty get maximum points as they are the team going up.
This was an anomaly this season.
If they don't it effectively means they are not going into a higher grade of competition.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Ye Olde Place Kick » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:25 pm

Champ wrote:
has been wrote:Interesting development in the relegation saga. With Sedan now heading to RMFL means the plans for an 8 team country are a bit out of wack now. HFL no longer entertaining an 11 team central competition. Interesting time ahead for your crew legs man. Believe the HFL has solid legal opinion in relation to your specific case. Interesting note that the super coach picked up on the non payment to your players as well. Money dried up...................... one of your backers not what was portrayed ????? Inform us legs man. The super coach knows his stuff and is well connected.


Since you pair of twats are so well connected then you should be posting facts and not asking questions in order to attempt to create rumours.

Regardless I think sedan are one of two sides potentially exiting the league this year...


Sedan 100% leaving and to which league?
Who is the other club? and to where?
Not having a shot just curious.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Panther32 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:51 pm

The HFL need to really look hard over this promotion/relegation thing because it has that many holes in it's ridiculous.

They promote the winner of the Country League so as they don't have a lopsided Central League (the whole reason for two leagues), but in theory if your junior teams are successful your A grade side could get spanked by 20 goals and no one cares, you still stay in the Central Division!

Criticise Echunga for "buying" a Premiership, when in fact the majority of players are locals or have been there for years, most played in the Country GF. Yet criticise them for their poor Junior performance but no one has mentioned how bad Uraidla's juniors are! Across the three junior sides Uraidla have won 6 games for the season, Echunga 11.

When it comes down to it, the B grade are the only reason they are going down yet all the talk is ever about is either A grade or Juniors!!!

You look at the Amateur league who use the promotion/relegation system and there are always floggings in the B grade games! They are promoted or relegated on their A grade success or failures not the B grades!

If the goal is to have an even competition then isn't that what Echunga coming up have achieved?

Like someone said, the rules need to be adjusted to get with the times.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:43 pm

Further to that Panther32, if there is promotion/relegation why are some clubs allocated more points? This creates an unfair playing field and not every club has the same opportunity to remain in Central. Shouldnt everyone have the same points where relegation is going to be enforced?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Gimp » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:54 pm

Panther32 wrote:The HFL need to really look hard over this promotion/relegation thing because it has that many holes in it's ridiculous.

They promote the winner of the Country League so as they don't have a lopsided Central League (the whole reason for two leagues), but in theory if your junior teams are successful your A grade side could get spanked by 20 goals and no one cares, you still stay in the Central Division!

Criticise Echunga for "buying" a Premiership, when in fact the majority of players are locals or have been there for years, most played in the Country GF. Yet criticise them for their poor Junior performance but no one has mentioned how bad Uraidla's juniors are! Across the three junior sides Uraidla have won 6 games for the season, Echunga 11.

When it comes down to it, the B grade are the only reason they are going down yet all the talk is ever about is either A grade or Juniors!!!

You look at the Amateur league who use the promotion/relegation system and there are always floggings in the B grade games! They are promoted or relegated on their A grade success or failures not the B grades!

If the goal is to have an even competition then isn't that what Echunga coming up have achieved?

Like someone said, the rules need to be adjusted to get with the times.

Firstly only 10 players played in both premierships, hardly most.
Secondly, why do outsiders continue to compare the SAAFL relegation/promotion to the HFL model?? They're not even the same and until the SAAFL have a WHOLE club playing together, it's never going to be the same.
Why didn't Echunga try and change the rules before the season started?
TBH, I don't mind if Echunga stay up, I actually think TV and Bridgewater should come down and make both divisions a 9-team comp by dropping out Sed-Cam and Maccy who can't fill their junior sides. But we all know Maccy won't get dropped out as long as they have a member on the HFL board, regardless if they don't meet requirements!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:29 pm

The Gimp wrote:
Panther32 wrote:The HFL need to really look hard over this promotion/relegation thing because it has that many holes in it's ridiculous.

They promote the winner of the Country League so as they don't have a lopsided Central League (the whole reason for two leagues), but in theory if your junior teams are successful your A grade side could get spanked by 20 goals and no one cares, you still stay in the Central Division!

Criticise Echunga for "buying" a Premiership, when in fact the majority of players are locals or have been there for years, most played in the Country GF. Yet criticise them for their poor Junior performance but no one has mentioned how bad Uraidla's juniors are! Across the three junior sides Uraidla have won 6 games for the season, Echunga 11.

When it comes down to it, the B grade are the only reason they are going down yet all the talk is ever about is either A grade or Juniors!!!

You look at the Amateur league who use the promotion/relegation system and there are always floggings in the B grade games! They are promoted or relegated on their A grade success or failures not the B grades!

If the goal is to have an even competition then isn't that what Echunga coming up have achieved?

Like someone said, the rules need to be adjusted to get with the times.

Firstly only 10 players played in both premierships, hardly most.
Secondly, why do outsiders continue to compare the SAAFL relegation/promotion to the HFL model?? They're not even the same and until the SAAFL have a WHOLE club playing together, it's never going to be the same.
Why didn't Echunga try and change the rules before the season started?
TBH, I don't mind if Echunga stay up, I actually think TV and Bridgewater should come down and make both divisions a 9-team comp by dropping out Sed-Cam and Maccy who can't fill their junior sides. But we all know Maccy won't get dropped out as long as they have a member on the HFL board, regardless if they don't meet requirements!
- is it only 1 member?

Hey - you need somewhere to play the Country GF EVERY year. (is there no bias in this - and you wonder why I am critical of the decisions made)
Same applied when a final was shifted to Mt Barker with limited notice - and FOR NO REASON.
Echunga Oval and facilities are vastly superior in every way to Mt Barker so someone explain why (The HFL couldn't)
Uraidla's B grade has kept them in Central due to a poorly weighted points system - as Echunga has had better juniors this season.
Let's consider junior participants - not necessarily matches won - if you are truly weighting a club and what it brings to the league and we might be on the right track.
This current situation becomes even more ridiculous when you take into account how many junior players Echunga has playing for them compared to some other clubs in both divisions.
TV should be the team in the gun as facilities are a disgrace and junior numbers are limited.
Bridgewater scrape in due to junior numbers - but certainly need a shake up with respect to facilities (Callington included as the changerooms ,bar and canteen are sub standard.)
Must admit a 9 team comp in both divisions is looking more palatable with Sedan leaving.
A merger is needed to achieve this though.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Bunter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:50 pm

Champ wrote:
has been wrote:Interesting development in the relegation saga. With Sedan now heading to RMFL means the plans for an 8 team country are a bit out of wack now. HFL no longer entertaining an 11 team central competition. Interesting time ahead for your crew legs man. Believe the HFL has solid legal opinion in relation to your specific case. Interesting note that the super coach picked up on the non payment to your players as well. Money dried up...................... one of your backers not what was portrayed ????? Inform us legs man. The super coach knows his stuff and is well connected.


Since you pair of twats are so well connected then you should be posting facts and not asking questions in order to attempt to create rumours.

Regardless I think sedan are one of two sides potentially exiting the league this year...


They are the same bloke mate. I think he should stick to writing mortgages instead of dribbling on this forum.
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