Adelaide Oval Football Membership Price Increase

[JK]

Again Port unhappy with a deal that they signed!

Questions need to be asked of the administration who continue to enter agreements that are detrimental to their business!!!

....while they were still under the control of the SANFL.

The licence had not been sold, no "actual" date for the licence sale was in place.

That was Port's own doing though, they could have brokered the sale of license much earlier than they did.

I think there's some transparency needed here. Total Revenue needs to be listed, per body, then compared against what was agreed. If that doesn't match, then it needs to be rectified immediately. If it does match, then I'd imagine the footy clubs would hope to re-negotiate but would expect the SMA and SANFL to stand their ground until big brother leans on them.

[stan]

Again Port unhappy with a deal that they signed!

Questions need to be asked of the administration who continue to enter agreements that are detrimental to their business!!!

....while they were still under the control of the SANFL.

The licence had not been sold, no "actual" date for the licence sale was in place.

That was Port's own doing though, they could have brokered the sale of license much earlier than they did.

I think there's some transparency needed here. Total Revenue needs to be listed, per body, then compared against what was agreed. If that doesn't match, then it needs to be rectified immediately. If it does match, then I'd imagine the footy clubs would hope to re-negotiate but would expect the SMA and SANFL to stand their ground until big brother leans on them.

I would be interested to see the revenue and really we cant comment either way until we have some actual numbers tp work with.

[Dutchy]

Port also significantly increased its football spend in 2014
Port also chose to discount memberships to get people thru the door in 2014
Port acknowledge they got a $4m uplift from the AO in 2014
Port still lost $2m

There are many more factors to making a profit/loss than stadium deal, yet that is what everyone is focusing on?

[kickinit]

Port also significantly increased its football spend in 2014
Port also chose to discount memberships to get people thru the door in 2014
Port acknowledge they got a $4m uplift from the AO in 2014
Port still lost $2m

There are many more factors to making a profit/loss than stadium deal, yet that is what everyone is focusing on?

So are you know going to start about the crows?

You also forgot to mention that the $4m uplift is what was project with a average crowd of 35,000.

[Dutchy]

Port also significantly increased its football spend in 2014
Port also chose to discount memberships to get people thru the door in 2014
Port acknowledge they got a $4m uplift from the AO in 2014
Port still lost $2m

There are many more factors to making a profit/loss than stadium deal, yet that is what everyone is focusing on?

So are you know going to start about the crows?

You also forgot to mention that the $4m uplift is what was project with a average crowd of 35,000.

WTF are you on?

[kickinit]

Port also significantly increased its football spend in 2014
Port also chose to discount memberships to get people thru the door in 2014
Port acknowledge they got a $4m uplift from the AO in 2014
Port still lost $2m

There are many more factors to making a profit/loss than stadium deal, yet that is what everyone is focusing on?

So are you know going to start about the crows?

You also forgot to mention that the $4m uplift is what was project with a average crowd of 35,000.

WTF are you on?

Nothing, but seems like you are. You've done nothing but bag Port, who isn't the only party complaining about the deal.

Maybe you should take off the Kermit mask and have a look at the whole situation not just the points you want to.

[Dutchy]

Crows are not squealing like Port

[stan]

Crows are not squealing like Port

Nah cause they get free rent. Still living with mum and dad.

[stan]

Rod Hook having a few words now.

[kickinit]

Rod Hook having a few words now.

A couple of interesting statements from the article

“A representative from each club on the SMA would have been the smart thing,” Hook said.

“But the SANFL — that was (then) the holder of the Crows and Power licences — would not have it

The Advertiser understands the SANFL scored a bigger “financial uplift” than either the Crows (almost $3 million) or Power (almost $4 million) in the move from Football Park. The league’s gain was almost $4.5 million.

So much for a lean stadium management that will bring the $$ back to the clubs, looks more of a money grabbing pit for the SANFL.

[the milky bar kid]

From my understanding the Crows & Port are not looking for more money in the dollar from AO. All both clubs are looking for is the crowd cap to be removed for when each club stops making money from the deal. The Crows cap was about 38k & Ports roughly 33k to my knowledge, after that 100% of takings go to the SANFL & the SMA.
It strikes me as fair, that if the teams are bringing larger crowds, that they should be entitled to their slice of that (the % that they earn to the dollar, not all of it)

The deal was hastily put together last season to ensure it was ready for round 1 with the intent to be reviewed at the seasons end picking up any bugs in the system.
Obviously unless those bugs make good $$$ for someone

[JK]

From my understanding the Crows & Port are not looking for more money in the dollar from AO. All both clubs are looking for is the crowd cap to be removed for when each club stops making money from the deal. The Crows cap was about 38k & Ports roughly 33k to my knowledge, after that 100% of takings go to the SANFL & the SMA.
It strikes me as fair, that if the teams are bringing larger crowds, that they should be entitled to their slice of that (the % that they earn to the dollar, not all of it)

The deal was hastily put together last season to ensure it was ready for round 1 with the intent to be reviewed at the seasons end picking up any bugs in the system.
Obviously unless those bugs make good $$$ for someone

Im staggered that both clubs would sign a deal like that. And whilst it hurts to defend the AFL clubs, IF, the agreement is as you say then yes it needs to be amended. Madness that Port don't make anything from the additional 17k people, or the Crows from the additional 12k, that have regularly come through the turnstyle..

[stan]

From my understanding the Crows & Port are not looking for more money in the dollar from AO. All both clubs are looking for is the crowd cap to be removed for when each club stops making money from the deal. The Crows cap was about 38k & Ports roughly 33k to my knowledge, after that 100% of takings go to the SANFL & the SMA.
It strikes me as fair, that if the teams are bringing larger crowds, that they should be entitled to their slice of that (the % that they earn to the dollar, not all of it)

The deal was hastily put together last season to ensure it was ready for round 1 with the intent to be reviewed at the seasons end picking up any bugs in the system.
Obviously unless those bugs make good $$$ for someone

Im staggered that both clubs would sign a deal like that. And whilst it hurts to defend the AFL clubs, IF, the agreement is as you say then yes it needs to be amended. Madness that Port don't make anything from the additional 17k people, or the Crows from the additional 12k, that have regularly come through the turnstyle..

Yeah its like they dont get numbers and stuff.

Although Port dont normally have accesz to computers. Joking joking, just having my daily dig a Port and the ferals that follow them [emoji6]

[whufc]

It's all a big game, the crows and port used their power, tricks and manipulation to weave reserves sides into the SANFL.

In the meanwhile the SANFL managed to get a better deal for themselves with stadium and all a sudden the AFL clubs squel like pigs.

Badluck you lost out on this one despite having all the facts and documents infront of you, it's only your presumptions that make this seem like such a bad deal.

Eat it!!

[kickinit]

It's all a big game, the crows and port used their power, tricks and manipulation to weave reserves sides into the SANFL.

In the meanwhile the SANFL managed to get a better deal for themselves with stadium and all a sudden the AFL clubs squel like pigs.

Badluck you lost out on this one despite having all the facts and documents infront of you, it's only your presumptions that make this seem like such a bad deal.

Eat it!!

You mean like put everything on offer to the sanfl clubs who agreed to and signed off on the terms.

What we had in front of us was a deal purely setup to support the people who at the time owned us and, we also had the leaders of the league we played in wanting us to sign it and worry about it down the track.

What the SANFL have now done has shown how incompetent they are, plus have put themselves on the back foot for any support in the future.

[Dutchy]

What the SANFL have now done has shown how incompetent they are, plus have put themselves on the back foot for any support in the future.

Yeah they have done nothing for Port, wish I could get a $14m loan that I didnt have to pay back...

[daysofourlives]

What the SANFL have now done has shown how incompetent they are, plus have put themselves on the back foot for any support in the future.

Yeah they have done nothing for Port, wish I could get a $14m loan that I didnt have to pay back...

Yep sounds like about another 6-7 years of this deal should clear what the Power owes South Australian football

[whufc]

Oh oh wait a sec but the initial deal Port signed to get in the AFL and thought they would deal with later was unfair as well

Is there a dumber sporting franchise in Australia that repeatedly make the same mistakes

It's only in the last couple of years that they think they have worked out their own identity

Even that's still questionable

Well I'm off to get a new house loan, gonna sign whatever contract com bank put in front of me, ill head back there in 6 months time and try and renegotiate the t&c with them then if my presumptions aren't correct.

[kickinit]

What the SANFL have now done has shown how incompetent they are, plus have put themselves on the back foot for any support in the future.

Yeah they have done nothing for Port, wish I could get a $14m loan that I didnt have to pay back...

SANFL owned Port's license, they could of easily said no. When you own any business and something goes bad you make the decision to pump in the money or cut it loose. When you look at the figures and the money coming in is outweighing what you have to pump in, you pump the money. Because the one thing your forgetting Dutchy is that have made the SANFl a hell of a lot more then $14m.

[kickinit]

Oh oh wait a sec but the initial deal Port signed to get in the AFL and thought they would deal with later was unfair as well

Is there a dumber sporting franchise in Australia that repeatedly make the same mistakes

It's only in the last couple of years that they think they have worked out their own identity

Even that's still questionable

Well I'm off to get a new house loan, gonna sign whatever contract com bank put in front of me, ill head back there in 6 months time and try and renegotiate the t&c with them then if my presumptions aren't correct.

But hang on is it ok for the bank turn around a couple months of signing that contract and say our fees have change from $500 to now $10,000, so you will be required to pay an extra $9,500?

You do realise (even though you and duchy seem to blind to see it) but the crows are also in the same situation?