2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Big Phil » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:25 pm

lovethefooty wrote:this maybe true big phil.
but let me tell you he is an absolute beauty...
and when fit and confident will be the best full back in the competition!!

Yeah, I know this...

I have seen HEAPS of Bobby in the last 3 years and understand why Central were keen on him at the start of the 2014 season...

Good that he will now be able to play regular League footy at the Eagles...

VonBertouch is an under-rated defender for them and sometimes looks like he needs some help, so Bobby will provide that, for sure...
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby JK » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:34 pm

lovethefooty wrote:this maybe true big phil.
but let me tell you he is an absolute beauty...
and when fit and confident will be the best full back in the competition!!


Do like Rakiwasa, but think Georgiou has him covered
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Dutchy » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:56 pm

RECRUITING UPDATE

The Glenelg Football Club continues its recruiting for 2015 with the signing of ex Adelaide Crows utility Jarrhan Jacky.

Jarrhan, who played for Subiaco last season, is currently working in Western Australia but is relocating back to South Australia for family reasons.

Jarrhan possess terrific speed, prolific skills and can play a variety of positions. We are excited to add Jarrhan to our list and look forward to him joining our club.

Along with our current signings we have also invited the following players to pre-season training.

Judd Robson (ex-Port Adelaide/Broadview)

Tom Edwards (Padthaway/ex-Glenelg)

James Schwarz (Woodville West Torrens)

James Lean (Woodville West Torrens)

Nikolas Mallyon-Ciurak (Victoria)

Lachlan Niland-Rowe (Queensland)

Tom Evans (Pembroke Old Scholars)

Josh Moody (Eastlake)
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Rising Power » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:59 pm

Good to see Juddy coming back to the SANFL. Saw him do his knee in the internal trial a couple years back and was wondering how he was going.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Big Phil » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:18 pm

Josh Moody is originally from Port Magpies, I think? I reckon his Dad had an Underage coaching involvement out at Alberton for a while...
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:34 pm

Big Phil wrote:Josh Moody is originally from Port Magpies, I think? I reckon his Dad had an Underage coaching involvement out at Alberton for a while...

Correct BP. Josh played at the Magpies and his dad was involved in under 16s/18s coaching.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Big Phil » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:39 pm

Will be interesting to see how Jacky goes at the Tigers...
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Dogwatcher » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:54 pm

We were into him, weren't we?
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Mr Fuller » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:32 pm

Big Phil wrote:Will be interesting to see how Jacky goes at the Tigers...


When he was playing at the Eagles he was one of these players who was either brilliant or terrible. One week he'd get 30 possessions and kick two goals and the next he'd be well held. At the time his biggest limitation was his dislike of body contact so could easily be cut out of the game during tough contests.

Would be great to see him go well though.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Jim05 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:48 pm

Did the Bays win the lotto or something?
Few transfer $ amongst that lot id imagine
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Bounce of the ball » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:20 pm

Lost Thorp and Hooper though.Significant . Hooper will be missed saluting the few on the hill when 10 goals down.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby dedja » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:27 pm

Jim05 wrote:Did the Bays win the lotto or something?
Few transfer $ amongst that lot id imagine


Spend, spend, spend, then ask for forgiveness later ... sound familiar?
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Pseudo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:49 pm

Jim05 wrote:Did the Bays win the lotto or something?

Not all of them; only Warren Ralph.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Big Phil » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:45 pm

Sturt have recruited Jarrod Irving from Frankston in the VFL...

A key defender that is supposedly a tackling machine but had a lot of shoulder issues...
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Mr Fuller » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:26 pm

Yeh Hentchel and Godden have zero confidence now since choosing Eddy over Cachia a couple of years back! That's not one you get over especially when it cost the club very good $ for 0.0 return!!

These guys know the local league and are in the comfort zone in SA plus really how are they going to package up playing in this state with a decent job? All too hard especially when the Candy Crows drop their discards each year ie. Thompson, Petrenko and McKernan.

Lazy? Yes Sir! But priority No. 1 is plenty of recruits from anywhere because the Eagles have more issues then the state treasurer![/quote]

I get where the club is coming from in terms of not spending big $$ to bring someone from interstate here. However it’s a terrible attitude for a few reasons:

1. Many players, particularly those in age bracket 20-22 who we should be targeting are at university. They aren’t necessarily looking for full-time jobs and as such, it costs them nothing to transfer here. Do we even talk to these types? Maybe they are keen to come here and play in the second best competition with the aim of playing AFL. If they have intentions of getting back to the AFL it means they will put in 100% (unlike an Eddy) so you know what you are getting. Further, you know in advance they may only be here for 2-3 years so you can budget for this. You don’t dismiss these players out of hand purely because they are from interstate.

2. If the club worries about cost of interstate recruits then this means we need to poach established SANFL players from other clubs if we want to be competitive. And to get them to our club we need to pay way above market value.

3. Investing in mature SANFL footy players (or ex-SANFL players returning to the league from, say AFL) does not necessarily guarantee a good return. Consider players like Tiller, Kirk or Dabrowski who were only with the club for a few seasons, some even less. We had to pay top dollar for these types only to have them move on.

4. It restricts the club’s ability to address deficiencies – the eagles currently need a decent ruckman and a midfielder. If the answer to our problem lies in country Victoria, or Queensland, do we ignore this option because of where they live and instead only look within SA and perhaps only attract a substandard player?

The eagles’ mentality must change and fast. Given our small supporter base, we cannot afford to have multiple poor seasons. Godden and Hentschell are keeping this club down in order to ‘give juniors a go’ which is a noble gesture but ultimately will result in a poor outcome for the club.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:10 am

Jackson O'Brien has returned to Central after a couple of years playing with Angaston in the Barossa...

Was a midfielder recruited over from Tasmania who ended up having a few off-field issues but has got himself sorted out now, by the sounds of it...
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby holden78 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:34 am

Mr Fuller wrote:Yeh Hentchel and Godden have zero confidence now since choosing Eddy over Cachia a couple of years back! That's not one you get over especially when it cost the club very good $ for 0.0 return!!

These guys know the local league and are in the comfort zone in SA plus really how are they going to package up playing in this state with a decent job? All too hard especially when the Candy Crows drop their discards each year ie. Thompson, Petrenko and McKernan.

Lazy? Yes Sir! But priority No. 1 is plenty of recruits from anywhere because the Eagles have more issues then the state treasurer!


I get where the club is coming from in terms of not spending big $$ to bring someone from interstate here. However it’s a terrible attitude for a few reasons:

1. Many players, particularly those in age bracket 20-22 who we should be targeting are at university. They aren’t necessarily looking for full-time jobs and as such, it costs them nothing to transfer here. Do we even talk to these types? Maybe they are keen to come here and play in the second best competition with the aim of playing AFL. If they have intentions of getting back to the AFL it means they will put in 100% (unlike an Eddy) so you know what you are getting. Further, you know in advance they may only be here for 2-3 years so you can budget for this. You don’t dismiss these players out of hand purely because they are from interstate.

2. If the club worries about cost of interstate recruits then this means we need to poach established SANFL players from other clubs if we want to be competitive. And to get them to our club we need to pay way above market value.

3. Investing in mature SANFL footy players (or ex-SANFL players returning to the league from, say AFL) does not necessarily guarantee a good return. Consider players like Tiller, Kirk or Dabrowski who were only with the club for a few seasons, some even less. We had to pay top dollar for these types only to have them move on.

4. It restricts the club’s ability to address deficiencies – the eagles currently need a decent ruckman and a midfielder. If the answer to our problem lies in country Victoria, or Queensland, do we ignore this option because of where they live and instead only look within SA and perhaps only attract a substandard player?

The eagles’ mentality must change and fast. Given our small supporter base, we cannot afford to have multiple poor seasons. Godden and Hentschell are keeping this club down in order to ‘give juniors a go’ which is a noble gesture but ultimately will result in a poor outcome for the club.[/quote]

I think Dobba gave us 4 years and was a premiership player as was Tiller, however the latter did cost a lot but we went top!
Kirk was a lazy bust for little $ and with Eddy is why we have had no better season then average in the last 3!
Make no mistake Mr Fuller, Micky and Trent don't sleep that well nowdays knowing the club is on a disturbing run of 4 finals losses in a row that all have similar traits ie. getting over run literally, no one standing up from a leadership point of view and no significant change of gamestyle to get the game back going our way etc.etc.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:40 am

Big Phil wrote:Jackson O'Brien has returned to Central after a couple of years playing with Angaston in the Barossa...

Was a midfielder recruited over from Tasmania who ended up having a few off-field issues but has got himself sorted out now, by the sounds of it...


I mentioned that one either on this thread, or another.
Was a little surprised by how little comment it generated.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby cennals05 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:45 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Jackson O'Brien has returned to Central after a couple of years playing with Angaston in the Barossa...

Was a midfielder recruited over from Tasmania who ended up having a few off-field issues but has got himself sorted out now, by the sounds of it...


I mentioned that one either on this thread, or another.
Was a little surprised by how little comment it generated.

I'm not sure I'm happy with this. He had his chances.
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Re: 2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

Postby Mr Fuller » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:34 am

holden78 wrote: I think Dobba gave us 4 years and was a premiership player as was Tiller, however the latter did cost a lot but we went top!
Kirk was a lazy bust for little $ and with Eddy is why we have had no better season then average in the last 3!
Make no mistake Mr Fuller, Micky and Trent don't sleep that well nowdays knowing the club is on a disturbing run of 4 finals losses in a row that all have similar traits ie. getting over run literally, no one standing up from a leadership point of view and no significant change of gamestyle to get the game back going our way etc.etc.


…….great, but what are they planning to do about it? It seems nothing has changed from year-to-year and with their limiting recruiting policy its really hard to get better and improve when no other club is limited by such an absurd policy.

Straight from Godden’s mouth – most of the talented juniors are gone. So how the hell does he think we are going to improve???

Seems like Godden’s #1 priority is to help junior’s get to AFL rather than actually winning the SANFL premiership.
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