Ch9 AFL Division 4 - 2015

[Demon Juke]

Of course you would want to have a crack at div 4 because you are a chance for a flag, if you go up there is no chance for a flag and it's all about trying to just stay up. I don't blame you because i think you are doing the right thing, If you win promotion next year you have 6 months to plan for it.

[S Demon]

HV will be staying in Div 4 in 2015

We would like to play in Division 3 on our merits and gain promotion by making the Grand Final in Division 4 (and winning it would be nice too)

I'm my opinion, clubs picking and choosing where they want to play (mainly due to poor management) effects the integrity of the whole SAAFL competition and it needs to stop

[Footy Follower]

Why would any club not want to play as higher division as possible?? As most know, it is pretty hard to make a grand final and go up a division (just ask golden grove), so when it is handed to you on a plate why not take it? Your club may not be in a position to challenge or play finals in the higher division, but still it is worth a shot.[/quote]
Not sure. Ask Salisbury, Kilburn, Eastern Park and Pooraka who have already made the decision[/quote]

salisbury just got relegated from div 3 and need to regroup
eastern park just played a strong season in div 4 after being relegated but have lost some key players
pooraka have only been relegated 2-3 years ago and have been rebuilding since key players retired

so yes pooraka is in a nice spot at the moment but didnt think it was at a stage to make the jump into 3 this year but in saying that we are looking at having a strong year in div 4 in our 100th year as a club[/quote]


The jump from Division 4 to division 3 is not huge IMO so if you believe your club is in a position to challenge for the flag in div 4 in 2015, then IMO they should have taken the opportunity to go up to div 3 and be competitive. Alot of clubs are strong all year and then fall over come finals, so if the opportunity is handed to you I believe you should take it. Same goes for Eastern Park who were only just short of making the GF this year. Both Eastern Park and Pooraka have been strong clubs in the higher divisions in previous years, and that should be where they want to get back too.
The underlining problem is still that the SAAFL is letting clubs choose whether or not they want to be promoted when making a gf though.
i think salisbury pooraka and eastern park all had different reasons for not going up into div 3

[Footy Chick]

Hang on FF, in one breath you've slammed clubs for not taking the opportunity to go up and then in the other, you've said the same clubs had reasons for not going up.

How about this for a theory.

If you weren't meant to play in a div in 2015,. don't play there - we've seen too many examples of it ending in tears and this is why we will now this unevenness until it all pans itself out again through natural selection. Glenunga is possibly the only club to disprove this theory to a degree.


I don't understand why you'd jeapordise your own clubs success to do a favour for a struggling club that hasn't done the right thing. At short notice and without the appropriate pre-season or preparation, the best you could hope for is NOT to be relegated - and that isn't what any club should strive for.

[HH3]

I think people misunderstand the concepts of divisions.

My understanding is they are there so that the competition is even, and you are playing teams of relatively similar skill.

Playing in the higher divisions is the goal of a lot of clubs, but they shouldn't go up when they aren't at the same standard as the clubs in that division.

I think a lot of clubs are not arrogant enough to think they are better than they are, and have decided to stay in the division they deserve to play in.

[Buddys wife]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

[Robb_Stark]

maybe if salisbury west can muster together say 10-15 grand and pay a club to take there spot in div 3 a few would consider it

the jump from div 4 to div 3 in my opinion is 3-4 decent players on top of the current playing list

1.ruckmen
2.midfielder of quality
3.CHB who has played at stronger div say div 1,2 or even SANFL or reserves
4.just another quality player like a wingmen

thats probably what any div 4 club would need at this stage to go into div 3

[heater31]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

How about those that rightfully get the opportunity take it as well? Paying players and glory hunting is not good club culture and if it forces your club to fold then take it because your board of directors chose this path.

[HH3]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

If you might be fighting to stay up in Div 4 at the end of the year, why would you even consider accepting the free ride to Div 3?

[woodublieve12]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

How about those that rightfully get the opportunity take it as well? Paying players and glory hunting is not good club culture and if it forces your club to fold then take it because your board of directors chose this path.

Choosing to not go up by a grand final side, shouldn't be an option... You were good enough to make to a GF, so you MUST go up and if something bad happens in the off season, well bad luck...

[tkr]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

How about those that rightfully get the opportunity take it as well? Paying players and glory hunting is not good club culture and if it forces your club to fold then take it because your board of directors chose this path.

Choosing to not go up by a grand final side, shouldn't be an option... You were good enough to make to a GF, so you MUST go up and if something bad happens in the off season, well bad luck...

Absolutely correct that is what promotion/relegation is all about!

[The Informer]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

How about those that rightfully get the opportunity take it as well? Paying players and glory hunting is not good club culture and if it forces your club to fold then take it because your board of directors chose this path.

Choosing to not go up by a grand final side, shouldn't be an option... You were good enough to make to a GF, so you MUST go up and if something bad happens in the off season, well bad luck...

Absolutely correct that is what promotion/relegation is all about!

This is some funny stuff, why would u have to go up after making a grand final! comical!

[woodublieve12]

you aware how the promotion relegation system works in the saafl?

[Robb_Stark]

you aware how the promotion relegation system works in the saafl?

after plympton handed brahma lodge that spanking in the GF you can see why they went the other way

[Lightning McQueen]

Hang on FF, in one breath you've slammed clubs for not taking the opportunity to go up and then in the other, you've said the same clubs had reasons for not going up.

How about this for a theory.

If you weren't meant to play in a div in 2015,. don't play there - we've seen too many examples of it ending in tears and this is why we will now this unevenness until it all pans itself out again through natural selection. Glenunga is possibly the only club to disprove this theory to a degree.


I don't understand why you'd jeapordise your own clubs success to do a favour for a struggling club that hasn't done the right thing. At short notice and without the appropriate pre-season or preparation, the best you could hope for is NOT to be relegated - and that isn't what any club should strive for.

Yeah nah.

[Look Good In Leather]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

If you might be fighting to stay up in Div 4 at the end of the year, why would you even consider accepting the free ride to Div 3?

If you are fighting for survival in Div 4, take the promotion if it is on offer - you have secured your spot at your current level for 2016 in the worst case, you also secure promotion without having to rely on making this year's grand final, and merely only have to finish in the top 8 to retain it.

[HH3]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

If you might be fighting to stay up in Div 4 at the end of the year, why would you even consider accepting the free ride to Div 3?

If you are fighting for survival in Div 4, take the promotion if it is on offer - you have secured your spot at your current level for 2016 in the worst case, you also secure promotion without having to rely on making this year's grand final, and merely only have to finish in the top 8 to retain it.

Here in the "Ammos", we don't just like to participate, we like to be competitive. You SFL blokes wouldn't understand.

[Q.]

I think if your club has been strong in the previous year and has the opportunity to go up you should take it. It only takes a bad run of injuries and you could be fighting off relegation in that lower div

If you might be fighting to stay up in Div 4 at the end of the year, why would you even consider accepting the free ride to Div 3?

If you are fighting for survival in Div 4, take the promotion if it is on offer - you have secured your spot at your current level for 2016 in the worst case, you also secure promotion without having to rely on making this year's grand final, and merely only have to finish in the top 8 to retain it.

That's a horrible idea. You'd end up getting belted every game and get relegated back to Div 4 anyway.

[marbles]

As if there really is that big of difference between div 3 all the way down to the best sides of div 6

[HH3]

As if there really is that big of difference between div 3 all the way down to the best sides of div 6

So you dont think their can be much difference in skill between 40 clubs (80 teams)?