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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:51 pm

The other change as well as a tighter constitution should be that weighting of overall club points earnt is done in a manner that values the 2 most important sides within any club : u18 and A grade.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby chopper7 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:56 pm

Well well well can't wait to smash these peanuts next year, and I'm sure every other club will be thinking the same. They have not won themselves many friends over the past 6 weeks so bring on 2015.
Couple of points though.
- every clubs B grade side will be rubbing the hands together knowing they are guaranteed 2 wins a year next year.
- the very good/good junior sides will be pencilling in wins as well each week
- I'm sure Uriadla can't wait to smash the head in of Josh Newham.
- feel very sorry for Bridgewater, as having an 11 team comp will kill off country unfortunately.

Bring on the Echunga Football League seeing as they make the rules for 2015. Cheers!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby MONTE CRISTO » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:01 pm

Legsman what planet do you come from. The HFL administered the rules that the clubs (including your beloved Echunga) set. These rules were fair last year when you wanted to enter Central Division but not fair now! What do you reckon every other club in the hills thinks of Echunga? Can't wait for Uri's to play Echunga next season.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby always there » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:04 pm

Legs Man wrote:The other change as well as a tighter constitution should be that weighting of overall club points earnt is done in a manner that values the 2 most important sides within any club : u18 and A grade.

Have to disagree with your thoughts on the most important sides. All junior sides are extremely important for a clubs foundation and future, wonder how your under 13 and 15 feel about your comments. Surely you can't have an A grade without a b grade to back them up. Legs Man and echunga continue to lose friends and gain enemies, 2015 is not going to be a pleasant season it will always have a taint on it.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby R. White » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:07 pm

When will you idiots learn. It's not echunga's fault, nor is it really the hfl's fault. If the hfl is run by the clubs then the blame should be spread equally between all of the clubs for allowing this to happen.
As for getting stuck into Echunga on this forum, did to not learn anything form last year. I am sure I could find numerous comments on this forum as to how they wouldn't win a game. That worked well didn't it. They obviously have a very strong club spirit and will not lay down easily. Is this really a bear you want to poke???
How about you worry about getting a kick yourself, or of you are not a player how about don't something to improve your club instead just using one hand to type rubbish on a forum!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:09 pm

chopper7 wrote:Well well well can't wait to smash these peanuts next year, and I'm sure every other club will be thinking the same. They have not won themselves many friends over the past 6 weeks so bring on 2015.
Couple of points though.
- every clubs B grade side will be rubbing the hands together knowing they are guaranteed 2 wins a year next year.
- the very good/good junior sides will be pencilling in wins as well each week
- I'm sure Uriadla can't wait to smash the head in of Josh Newham.
- feel very sorry for Bridgewater, as having an 11 team comp will kill off country unfortunately.

Bring on the Echunga Football League seeing as they make the rules for 2015. Cheers!


Good to see some intelligent responses forthcoming.

Would be even better if forum members had the intestinal fortitude to include what club they follow instead of hiding behind their veil of secrecy.

Until they can do this I will take their ill informed comments as worthless and not worth a pinch of salt.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:24 pm

always there wrote:
Legs Man wrote:The other change as well as a tighter constitution should be that weighting of overall club points earnt is done in a manner that values the 2 most important sides within any club : u18 and A grade.

Have to disagree with your thoughts on the most important sides. All junior sides are extremely important for a clubs foundation and future, wonder how your under 13 and 15 feel about your comments. Surely you can't have an A grade without a b grade to back them up. Legs Man and echunga continue to lose friends and gain enemies, 2015 is not going to be a pleasant season it will always have a taint on it.


To clarify my suggested changes to the weighting - as all junior sides are very important!
I am simply saying the U/18 and A grade should have the heaviest weighting e.g
A - 10
B - 3
U/ 18 - 5
U / 14 - 2

It really is unfortunate that some of the members of this forum still cannot see reason and seem intent on bagging Echunga and it's supporters.
The decision made was by a Supreme Court judge and your still questioning it after all parties were heard and afforded AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Banker » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:39 pm

Legs Man wrote:
It really is unfortunate that some of the members of this forum still cannot see reason and seem intent on bagging Echunga and it's supporters.
The decision made was by a Supreme Court judge and your still questioning it after all parties were heard and afforded AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.


Save your breath Legs Man. Obviously the other central div club supporters are pissed that it will now be harder for them to win the 2015 premiership.

Might have some friends at Nairne Bremer though, suddenly they are a good chance to play Central div in 2016....
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:42 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:
Legs Man wrote:Being an unbiased decision taking into account all arguments says it all.
Surely the onus now goes back onto the governing body with required changes being actioned.
Echunga were backed into a corner and had no other course of action than the one taken.
By the ruling being made at the highest level this shows that the rules set in place were flawed and not governed correctly on behalf of the clubs.
We can now move on to 2015 with what is hopefully a new lease of life for Hills footy and the correct changes derived for the competition.


Petty much 2 options:

1) 11 team competition
2) relegate Bridgewater

Assume the clubs will vote on which option they prefer. Surely they would select the first option?


So you are saying it was unfair on Echunga but would be fair on Bridgewater to go down?? You are kidding. The only option is an 11 team comp.

At least this will force the HFL directors to stop handing out extra points and junior permits at their leisure. Hopefully the by-laws don't change substantially.


Are you serious???

Did you not see that I wrote "Surely they would select the first option?", ie 11 team comp.

No, it would not be fair on Bridgewater at this late stage.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:47 pm

Legs Man wrote:
always there wrote:
Legs Man wrote:The other change as well as a tighter constitution should be that weighting of overall club points earnt is done in a manner that values the 2 most important sides within any club : u18 and A grade.

Have to disagree with your thoughts on the most important sides. All junior sides are extremely important for a clubs foundation and future, wonder how your under 13 and 15 feel about your comments. Surely you can't have an A grade without a b grade to back them up. Legs Man and echunga continue to lose friends and gain enemies, 2015 is not going to be a pleasant season it will always have a taint on it.


To clarify my suggested changes to the weighting - as all junior sides are very important!
I am simply saying the U/18 and A grade should have the heaviest weighting e.g
A - 10
B - 3
U/ 18 - 5
U / 14 - 2

It really is unfortunate that some of the members of this forum still cannot see reason and seem intent on bagging Echunga and it's supporters.
The decision made was by a Supreme Court judge and your still questioning it after all parties were heard and afforded AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.


There is something obscene about the survival of an entire club in a division hanging on junior results.

Would be much better to determine promotion/relegation on A-Grade results but make it mandatory to field all sides (that includes the U/13s that are excluded from all of this for some reason). All clubs to provide a list of minimum 21 active players in each junior grade at the start of the season and ensure there are hefty fines for forfeits ($1000+), for away games a portion goes to the home club as compensation for lost revenue.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby always there » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:48 pm

Banker wrote:
Legs Man wrote:
It really is unfortunate that some of the members of this forum still cannot see reason and seem intent on bagging Echunga and it's supporters.
The decision made was by a Supreme Court judge and your still questioning it after all parties were heard and afforded AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.


Save your breath Legs Man. Obviously the other central div club supporters are pissed that it will now be harder for them to win the 2015 premiership.

...

Don't think so..... :roll:
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:57 pm

Today Echunga have won our battle to remain in Central Division in 2015. This is great news for our club and is the best Xmas present we could have wished for.

While we invite you to come and celebrate this with us all at the club tonight at 6pm (with free BBQ) we also ask that we accept this victory with some humility and show all connected with the HFL that Echunga are a class act and we will not be allowing the posting of any provocative comments.

Let's get keen for 2015!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby limb » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:13 pm

I'd like to think that the key focus of junior sports (particularly at u/14 level) should be participation.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Patriach » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:22 pm

Congratulations Echunga FC, you have demonstrated to the South Australian football public that investment in and promotion of playing B Grade, Senior and Junior Colts is irrelevant in any football club/league in the state; A Grade is the be-all and end-all and nothing else matters.

Well done.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby running defender » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:55 pm

Just like to take the time to thank the hard working EFC senior and junior committee, sponsers and volunteers to bring about this great decision.
Just on our B Grade it will be a lot stronger next year, with 5 very good senior colts coming up as you would have seen in the GF TWO COLTS PLAYED but alot of people have failed to realise, plus the usual recruits we are likley to pick up. On recruits the amount of money that we spent this year was minimal not the rumored $100k plus. On other matters Josh newham will be very fresh come RD 3, it will also be great pleasure to unvail the premiership flag hopefully against the northern demons in RD 1. C ya at the footy chopper and co can't wait. MerryXmas to all and the HFL DIRECTORS
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:10 pm

Just out of curiosity, if it turns out the taxpayers helped fund Echungas A grade premiership, does that change any opinions about whether they should stay in central div, certainly changes mine.

Also any Echunga people who complain about Torrens Valley getting extra points this year, you have short memories, Echunga were given extra points in 2013 which if not given you wouldn't have even been in central div.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:12 pm

The Patriach wrote:Congratulations Echunga FC, you have demonstrated to the South Australian football public that investment in and promotion of playing B Grade, Senior and Junior Colts is irrelevant in any football club/league in the state; A Grade is the be-all and end-all and nothing else matters.

Well done.


If you are going to make wild statements please get your facts right.

Echunga played 2 colts players in their winning GF side and numerous others during the season taking the decision that this was better for the players future - as opposed to playing them in the B grade.
Echunga values it's juniors highly and provides a great environment for them and their families.
Echunga fields more junior players than some of the other clubs competing in Central division.

A grade premierships are what we all strive for as this filters down into your club overall.
Echunga had very few ins into its Country division side from last season and those recruited were a great compliment to the previous years side.
Total community is the name of the game here which has been endorsed by the Echunga community initiating a fighting fund to gain the result today.
This wasn't just a self interest exercise - it was one taken to ensure the junior players had every opportunity to succeed and the reigning premier gains the ability to defend the title.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby chopper7 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:17 pm

running defender wrote:Just like to take the time to thank the hard working EFC senior and junior committee, sponsers and volunteers to bring about this great decision.
Just on our B Grade it will be a lot stronger next year, with 5 very good senior colts coming up as you would have seen in the GF TWO COLTS PLAYED but alot of people have failed to realise, plus the usual recruits we are likley to pick up. On recruits the amount of money that we spent this year was minimal not the rumored $100k plus. On other matters Josh newham will be very fresh come RD 3, it will also be great pleasure to unvail the premiership flag hopefully against the northern demons in RD 1. C ya at the footy chopper and co can't wait. MerryXmas to all and the HFL DIRECTORS


You'll be the first player we all come after don't worry about that.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby R. White » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:24 pm

Chopper, if you are going to start that stuff you might want to man up and tell everyone who you are? Pretty gutless and pointless hiding behind your alias if you are going to make statements like that!
Pretty sure the Echunga boys will welcome anything you throw at them, the roughing up tactics of uraidla worked pretty well on gf day..........
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Legs Man » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:25 pm

cracka wrote:Just out of curiosity, if it turns out the taxpayers helped fund Echungas A grade premiership, does that change any opinions about whether they should stay in central div, certainly changes mine.

Also any Echunga people who complain about Torrens Valley getting extra points this year, you have short memories, Echunga were given extra points in 2013 which if not given you wouldn't have even been in central div.


More wild statements regarding the funding of player payments - as I know for a fact that this is not the case.
And you know by some psychic ability that Echunga wouldn't have won the Country flag - you are amazing with your ability to predict the future Cracka.

It wasn't the extra points allocated - it was simply the fact that the statement was made by the HFL that no further points would allocated this season regardless of circumstance - until TV requested them. ( did the clubs endorse this also? )

It is about time the sour grapes finished as the umpire has made his decision - and an unbiased umpire at that.
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