Southern Football League

[vics01]

Don't KNOW who you are SL this is not the first time you have slated the Hawks (having Turbo) as friend says a lot about you though).

The people at Hackham and several other clubs know where they are at and they are moving in every way to improve their club/s. If having half the comp. flog the other half week in week out as has been the case for years then so be it eventually clubs will fall over. At the present time Noarlunga and Reynella are power house clubs I am sure they would rather not have not games like this week at all. Just like Hackham and Lonsdale would rather not have these games.. If they play in a comp. appropriate to where they are at they get goo competition and the chance to build rather than lose players who get disheartened and just maybe the juniors will hang around as they see the seniors winning a few games which allows the club to grow.

So yes the SFL had the chance with the FDC to make change for the better as yet can't say there has been any..

[Turbo]

I actually agree with you vics. Nobody likes these beltings but nothing has happened and nothing's looks likely to happen unfortunately for the league and is likely a key contributor among others for many quality players leaving for other leagues.


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[Spangy]

In my opinion division 1 & 2 has been talked about for years now & unfortunately the reality for footy players, supporters & sponsors it is not going to change for quite some time now. If the board members in charge had the competitions best interest in heart, they would be doing there best to improve the standard of the competition as it is well behind other leagues outside the SANFL level...

On the Happy Valley situation I hope they look for someone young in there mid's 30. I believe the Local clubs need to start looking at people who can build a club from the juniors upwards, develop skills & base training around developing players rather than trying to fast track a premiership..

All the best for the rest of the year, I hope the competition improves & turns out to be competitive by the end of the year.

My tip is Flaggies will make the GF & just fall short by the Flies... However if the Flaggies can turn around there defence I reckon they will win in a thriller....

[Dutchy]

The 2 Hills divisions hasn't been a raging success either and there have been well documented issues in recent years.

If you look at the weekends results you could argue that those results would still happen in Div 2

[Mister Footy]

Winners are grinners great to be back on winners list.

Lads seem determined to put start of season behind them

[Look Good In Leather]

Interesting some of the comments around 2 divisions - currently 3 teams have a percentage of over 66.67% meaning that have doubled their opponent's scores, with 2 teams not far behind!

Looking at the results overall, 21 out of the 44 games played so far have resulted in the winner scoring more than double their opponent's score (what I am calling a big win). This week looks bad because we have had fine weather, but this has been happening all year (just masked a bit due to the amount of rain we have had).

The hard part though is there is not a clean split into two, there is no clear separation mid-way. This week Happy Valley had a big win over Marion, yet have two big losses themselves previously to Reynella and Port Noarlunga. Reynella and Morphettville Park have had big wins against all of their opponents bar 1 each making them the two clear stand outs, but Reynella failed to have a big win against Edwardstown last week, at team that has had 2 big losses (against Morphettville Park & Morphett Vale). Edwardstown themselves have a big win to their name, against Hackham. Port Noarlunga failed to have a big win against Cove this week, despite Cove having had 2 big losses previously. Whilst Cove have not had a big win themselves yet, yet managed a win against Happy Valley in round 3 who was mentioned previously as being a big winner. Christies Beach has had two big losses in a row (Noarlunga & Reynella), yet beat big winner Happy Valley and Brighton, Morphett Vale and Edwardstown, all big winners themselves, failed to have a big win, did not have big wins in their encounters.

Overall, the following teams have had at least one big win: Brighton, Edwardstown, Flagstaff Hill, Happy Valley, Morphett Vale, Morphettville Park, Noarlunga, Port Noarlunga, Reynella
The following have had big losses: Aldinga, Christies Beach, Cove, Edwardstown, Hackham, Happy Valley, Lonsdale, Marion, Noarlunga

Happy Valley & Noarlunga appear in both lists.

From the first list, Edwardstown, Happy Valley, Noarlunga & Port Noarlunga have lost to teams in the second list.
From the second list, Christies Beach, Cove, Noarlunga & Port Noarlunga have beaten teams in the first list.

[Spangy]

The 2 Hills divisions hasn't been a raging success either and there have been well documented issues in recent years.

If you look at the weekends results you could argue that those results would still happen in Div 2

Looking at the Hills Central results from the weekend the average winning marging was 20pts..

Not sure what you are meaning here dutchy???

[Spangy]

Interesting some of the comments around 2 divisions - currently 3 teams have a percentage of over 66.67% meaning that have doubled their opponent's scores, with 2 teams not far behind!

Looking at the results overall, 21 out of the 44 games played so far have resulted in the winner scoring more than double their opponent's score (what I am calling a big win). This week looks bad because we have had fine weather, but this has been happening all year (just masked a bit due to the amount of rain we have had).

The hard part though is there is not a clean split into two, there is no clear separation mid-way. This week Happy Valley had a big win over Marion, yet have two big losses themselves previously to Reynella and Port Noarlunga. Reynella and Morphettville Park have had big wins against all of their opponents bar 1 each making them the two clear stand outs, but Reynella failed to have a big win against Edwardstown last week, at team that has had 2 big losses (against Morphettville Park & Morphett Vale). Edwardstown themselves have a big win to their name, against Hackham. Port Noarlunga failed to have a big win against Cove this week, despite Cove having had 2 big losses previously. Whilst Cove have not had a big win themselves yet, yet managed a win against Happy Valley in round 3 who was mentioned previously as being a big winner. Christies Beach has had two big losses in a row (Noarlunga & Reynella), yet beat big winner Happy Valley and Brighton, Morphett Vale and Edwardstown, all big winners themselves, failed to have a big win, did not have big wins in their encounters.

Overall, the following teams have had at least one big win: Brighton, Edwardstown, Flagstaff Hill, Happy Valley, Morphett Vale, Morphettville Park, Noarlunga, Port Noarlunga, Reynella
The following have had big losses: Aldinga, Christies Beach, Cove, Edwardstown, Hackham, Happy Valley, Lonsdale, Marion, Noarlunga

Happy Valley & Noarlunga appear in both lists.

From the first list, Edwardstown, Happy Valley, Noarlunga & Port Noarlunga have lost to teams in the second list.
From the second list, Christies Beach, Cove, Noarlunga & Port Noarlunga have beaten teams in the first list.

All I see in this post Mr Leather is 4 out of 7 games are going to be blowouts each week...

Understand each league out there has blowouts, however the SFL must be the one of the highest overall???

[Look Good In Leather]

The 2 Hills divisions hasn't been a raging success either and there have been well documented issues in recent years.

If you look at the weekends results you could argue that those results would still happen in Div 2

Looking at the Hills Central results from the weekend the average winning marging was 20pts..

Not sure what you are meaning here dutchy???

He is referring to Division 2 in the hills, look at the weekend just gone:
Kersbrook 29.20 (194) d Sedan Cambrai 0.4 (4)
Birdwood 19.17 (131) d Gumeracha 4.3 (27)
Macclesfield 17.14 (116) d Kangarilla 4.7 (31)
Bridgewater Callington 15.10 (100) d 7.6 (48)

That is why two divisions will struggle to get up in the SFL, the clubs that are in the middle will want nothing to do with it as all the problems are concentrated together.

[Spangy]

Question.. How many of the teams below have made a prelim or a GF in the last ten years?

Flaggies
Saints
Cobras
Rams
Hawks
Lions
Sharks
Townies

[Look Good In Leather]

All I see in this post Mr Leather is 4 out of 7 games are going to be blowouts each week...

Understand each league out there has blowouts, however the SFL must be the one of the highest overall???

Spot on, but Noarlunga was on the receiving end of one of those, do you consider them a Division 2 team?

[Dutchy]

Moreso the Div 2, where clubs are really struggling with numbers and attracting juniors to a 2nd division club. Also High court action implemented to ensure survival of a club that was being relegated.

[Look Good In Leather]

Question.. How many of the teams below have made a prelim or a GF in the last ten years?

Flaggies
Saints
Cobras
Rams
Hawks
Lions
Sharks
Townies

Flaggies - Prelim 2011
Cobras - Premiership 2008

2 of the others you found worthy enough to play for

[Spangy]

The 2 Hills divisions hasn't been a raging success either and there have been well documented issues in recent years.

If you look at the weekends results you could argue that those results would still happen in Div 2

Looking at the Hills Central results from the weekend the average winning marging was 20pts..

Not sure what you are meaning here dutchy???

He is referring to Division 2 in the hills, look at the weekend just gone:
Kersbrook 29.20 (194) d Sedan Cambrai 0.4 (4)
Birdwood 19.17 (131) d Gumeracha 4.3 (27)
Macclesfield 17.14 (116) d Kangarilla 4.7 (31)
Bridgewater Callington 15.10 (100) d 7.6 (48)

That is why two divisions will struggle to get up in the SFL, the clubs that are in the middle will want nothing to do with it as all the problems are concentrated together.

Ah yes but the SFL is division 1 how can you compare it to division two of the hills???

On current history form, when division two teams play each other example sharks vs lions or hawks vs rams it is with 1-2 goals... Isn't that much better football week in week out for clubs & players?

[Look Good In Leather]

The 2 Hills divisions hasn't been a raging success either and there have been well documented issues in recent years.

If you look at the weekends results you could argue that those results would still happen in Div 2

Looking at the Hills Central results from the weekend the average winning marging was 20pts..

Not sure what you are meaning here dutchy???

He is referring to Division 2 in the hills, look at the weekend just gone:
Kersbrook 29.20 (194) d Sedan Cambrai 0.4 (4)
Birdwood 19.17 (131) d Gumeracha 4.3 (27)
Macclesfield 17.14 (116) d Kangarilla 4.7 (31)
Bridgewater Callington 15.10 (100) d 7.6 (48)

That is why two divisions will struggle to get up in the SFL, the clubs that are in the middle will want nothing to do with it as all the problems are concentrated together.

Ah yes but the SFL is division 1 how can you compare it to division two of the hills???

On current history form, when division two teams play each other example sharks vs lions or hawks vs rams it is with 1-2 goals... Isn't that much better football week in week out for clubs & players?

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@Dutchy was saying that 2 divisions is not the magic fix that some here are claiming, that is an example

[Spangy]

Question.. How many of the teams below have made a prelim or a GF in the last ten years?

Flaggies
Saints
Cobras
Rams
Hawks
Lions
Sharks
Townies

Flaggies - Prelim 2011
Cobras - Premiership 2008

2 of the others you found worthy enough to play for

Bugger all exactly.. I bet those other clubs that haven't had success for so long would be proud to say they were Div 2 premiers if SFL had two divisions.....

[Luke15]

Would this work

Division 1

Reynella
Flaggies
Morphett Vale
Noarlunga
Happy Valley
Brighton
Porties
Cove

Division 2

MParks
Edwardstown
Christies
Hackham
Aldinga
Marion
OSB

Explanation is that most of the Div 1 clubs have a full compliment of juniors plus are reasonably successful this year and.in the last 3 years.

Div 2 clubs well Morphy Parks, Edwardstown are stiff because they are going well in the As but in my.opinion they dont qualify for Div 1 unless they make more of an effort to get Saturday juniors. Christies do have a full compliment and good on Cratey and the club for building it up this well but i have them in Div 2 based on A grade performances especially this year.

[Waterboy]

Would this work

Division 1

Reynella
Flaggies
Morphett Vale
Noarlunga
Happy Valley
Brighton
Porties
Cove

Division 2

MParks
Edwardstown
Christies
Hackham
Aldinga
Marion
OSB

Explanation is that most of the Div 1 clubs have a full compliment of juniors plus are reasonably successful this year and.in the last 3 years.

Div 2 clubs well Morphy Parks, Edwardstown are stiff because they are going well in the As but in my.opinion they dont qualify for Div 1 unless they make more of an effort to get Saturday juniors. Christies do have a full compliment and good on Cratey and the club for building it up this well but i have them in Div 2 based on A grade performances especially this year.

Where do Morphie Parks, Christies and OSB play their 18s?

[cracka]

If SFL went back to 2 divs I think Kangarilla would definitely rejoin & maybe Meadows & Blackwood. Ironbank is also pretty close to a few SFL sides.

SFL & HFL are very similar standard wise, we almost need 3 divisions between our leagues, but travelling times & distances would be an issue.

[shoe boy]

Why are the scores not on sporting pulse?