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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Down the Hill » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:24 pm

Is a 200 metre walk to the clubrooms too difficult Moe and there is a shelter shed fairly close to the playing surface. Many of the Mini's kids at all clubs are playing primary school footy on a Saturday morning at schools that are no different or even worse as far as access to facilities and shelter. Using Brighton PS helps with the fixturing not just for Brighton but for visiting clubs so why can't people just be thankful.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby afc9798 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:52 pm

Down the Hill wrote:Is a 200 metre walk to the clubrooms too difficult Moe and there is a shelter shed fairly close to the playing surface. Many of the Mini's kids at all clubs are playing primary school footy on a Saturday morning at schools that are no different or even worse as far as access to facilities and shelter. Using Brighton PS helps with the fixturing not just for Brighton but for visiting clubs so why can't people just be thankful.


And they actually get to play on an oval that is.....an oval.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Down the Hill » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:47 pm

Correct AFC9798. BPS runs North/South, has a shape that resembles an oval not something from a bakery, the local flora does not encroach onto the field, and the visiting coach can set up wherever he likes rather than whispering distance to the full-back/full forward. People in glasshouses hey!!
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:03 pm

Genuine question. Is it right that two composite sides, Noarlunga/Aldinga and Cove/Mv are higher on the ladder than Porties and the twisters in the U/18's?
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Look Good In Leather » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:16 am

Esteban Vihaio wrote:Genuine question. Is it right that two composite sides, Noarlunga/Aldinga and Cove/Mv are higher on the ladder than Porties and the twisters in the U/18's?


They have won more games, so that generally happens on the ladder
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:40 am

With only 4 under 16 games to be played this w/end , did any one think of playing all at the same venue like a carnival ?
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Dutchy » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:40 am

shoe boy wrote:With only 4 under 16 games to be played this w/end , did any one think of playing all at the same venue like a carnival ?


That would require some forward thinking...I see HV/CB game is being played tonight @ HV.

Might pop out for a look :)
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby cracka » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:46 pm

shoe boy wrote:With only 4 under 16 games to be played this w/end , did any one think of playing all at the same venue like a carnival ?

Maybe suggesting it a bit sooner than the night before could have at least got the discussion going on that idea. :D
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Dutchy » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:11 pm

Valleys win an interesting encounter tonight, was a fair way from it but looked like a Christies player was getting physical with a goal umpire after the game.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby shoe boy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:55 am

Just seen the under 8 carnival to be played at Cove Sunday 9 August .

A map has also been issued with sites for clubs to pitch marques around the venue and the layout of 4 ovals on the Cove oval :shock:
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby MatteeG » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:20 am

shoe boy wrote:Just seen the under 8 carnival to be played at Cove Sunday 9 August .

A map has also been issued with sites for clubs to pitch marques around the venue and the layout of 4 ovals on the Cove oval :shock:
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Are they only using the footy oval or are they also using the soccer pitch?

Amazed they can fit 4 U/8 size ovals up there!
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby shoe boy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:33 am

MatteeG wrote:
shoe boy wrote:Just seen the under 8 carnival to be played at Cove Sunday 9 August .

A map has also been issued with sites for clubs to pitch marques around the venue and the layout of 4 ovals on the Cove oval :shock:
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Are they only using the footy oval or are they also using the soccer pitch?

Amazed they can fit 4 U/8 size ovals up there!


4 X UNDER 8 GAMES ON OVAL ONLY .
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:02 pm

There is an oval on the soccer pitch, as they did last year. Cove is too small, kids have shots on goal from the middle 3rd instead of trying to pass to a team mate.

The initial plan was for it to be at OSB/Lonsdale but hosted by Cove, not sure what happened with that plan.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Down the Hill » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:42 pm

The map I've seen shows 4 ovals marked out on the main oval. The soccer pitch is shown on the map but I think that is just for bearings rather than it being used as a 5th oval. Remember it is the U8 carnival which is 12 per side this year so I presume smaller ovals than previous.

Every team plays 3 games and that's it. No finals or declared winner. Don't have a problem with that but it makes you wonder why actually bother having an U8 Carnival.

Anyone know how the U10 and U12 Carnivals will be structured?
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JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Turbo » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:10 pm

Down the Hill wrote:The map I've seen shows 4 ovals marked out on the main oval. The soccer pitch is shown on the map but I think that is just for bearings rather than it being used as a 5th oval. Remember it is the U8 carnival which is 12 per side this year so I presume smaller ovals than previous.

Every team plays 3 games and that's it. No finals or declared winner. Don't have a problem with that but it makes you wonder why actually bother having an U8 Carnival.

Anyone know how the U10 and U12 Carnivals will be structured?


The ovals will be 70x50ish and from seeing a range of oval setups this year this will be sufficient for 12 a side with u8 players. I also think it's been updated as 4 games each.


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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:22 pm

Down the Hill wrote:The map I've seen shows 4 ovals marked out on the main oval. The soccer pitch is shown on the map but I think that is just for bearings rather than it being used as a 5th oval. Remember it is the U8 carnival which is 12 per side this year so I presume smaller ovals than previous.

Every team plays 3 games and that's it. No finals or declared winner. Don't have a problem with that but it makes you wonder why actually bother having an U8 Carnival.

Anyone know how the U10 and U12 Carnivals will be structured?


10's at Hackham same format as the 8's, no finals (what a joke :roll: ).

12's at Lonsdale nothing has changed with this one as far as I am aware
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby vics01 » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:15 pm

DUTCHY

10's at Hackham same format as the 8's, no finals (what a joke :roll: ).

12's at Lonsdale nothing has changed with this one as far as I am aware



SFL

Southern Football League Sub-Juniors South Australia A recent post was deleted for inappropriate content. The question was asked in the post what is the point of having a carnival with no scoring and no finals. The other question that has been asked for several years is why do we hold carnivals with scoring when there are no scores kept during the season. AFL guidelines are no scores are to be kept in competitions for children 12 years and under. Almost every piece of research on the subject finds that the children at that age in the majority do not care about the score, they just want to play and enjoy football with their friends. Scoring tends to have a larger impact on parental behaviour than player's behaviour, how many times has the phrase "they're not playing for sheep stations" been used regarding sub-junior football. The under 8 and under 10 carnivals now give the players the chance to finish their season with 4 games of football on their final day, rather than 3 plus maybe finals for the better teams.


Not jumping into either camp. I can understand some of the concept behind the kick and catch but WHY is it other leagues in Australia can have junior scores ladders and finals, and they have not lost AFL affiliation or funding but the SFL trots out the old chestnut AFL guidelines?

At least a competitive carnival should be held at the end of the year, after all the kids keep score.

Examples:


Eastern Football League

JUNIOR FINALS | WEEK 3
Only 75 teams remain in contention for Premiership glory across the Junior Ranks as Semi final weekend wrapped up across the Eastern Suburbs.
Preliminary Finals this Sunday across 8 venues to see who will continue to the big dance on August 16:
Under 17: http://bit.ly/1IFldX1
Under 16 Girls: http://bit.ly/1ePv9Bx
Under 15: http://bit.ly/1Hnicp9
Under 14: http://bit.ly/1JJsypA
Under 13: http://bit.ly/1K1tFwE
Under 12: http://bit.ly/1MJqQ8o
Under 11: http://bit.ly/1Uk4SLv
Under 12 Girls (DRJFL) : http://bit.ly/1ICGa0J

Western Region Football League
SUNDAY:
2015 Under 13A FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 13B FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 13C FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 12A FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 12B FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 12C FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 11A FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 11B FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
2015 Under 11C FIXTURERESULTSLADDER


Southern Football League TAS
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=0-110-0-359344-0&pool=1&a=LADDER

WAFL under 12
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?a=ROUND&round=2&client=1-2384-0-366063-0&pool=1


Southern Football League

Under 11 East 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 West 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 South Red 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 South White 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 North 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 Blue 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 11 Green 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 East 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 West 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 Girls 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 South 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 North 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 12 Blue 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 13 Div 1 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 13 Div 2 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 13 Div 3 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
Under 13 Div 4 2015 FIXTURERESULTSLADDER
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Dutchy » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:56 pm

For one day a year the kids should be able to participate in a carnival that means something, how to handle winning and more importantly losing is a life skill that can be taught well via footy.

In my experience the kids have a great day even if they go home after 3 games and don't progress.

Sadly it probably has more to do with the parents behaviour which has the SFL shying away from the competitive stuff , while it has generally been good in the last couple of years, one of the down the hill clubs disgraced itself on the weekend.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Down the Hill » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:36 pm

Thanks for narrowing the disgraced club down to 3 Dutchy but judging by the fixture and your allegiance it would seem it wasn't Brighton. Possibly a club that has a colour not worn by any other club in the SFL.
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Re: JUNIOR FOOTBALL

Postby Look Good In Leather » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:02 pm

vics01 wrote:
DUTCHY

10's at Hackham same format as the 8's, no finals (what a joke :roll: ).

12's at Lonsdale nothing has changed with this one as far as I am aware



SFL

Southern Football League Sub-Juniors South Australia A recent post was deleted for inappropriate content. The question was asked in the post what is the point of having a carnival with no scoring and no finals. The other question that has been asked for several years is why do we hold carnivals with scoring when there are no scores kept during the season. AFL guidelines are no scores are to be kept in competitions for children 12 years and under. Almost every piece of research on the subject finds that the children at that age in the majority do not care about the score, they just want to play and enjoy football with their friends. Scoring tends to have a larger impact on parental behaviour than player's behaviour, how many times has the phrase "they're not playing for sheep stations" been used regarding sub-junior football. The under 8 and under 10 carnivals now give the players the chance to finish their season with 4 games of football on their final day, rather than 3 plus maybe finals for the better teams.


Not jumping into either camp. I can understand some of the concept behind the kick and catch but WHY is it other leagues in Australia can have junior scores ladders and finals, and they have not lost AFL affiliation or funding but the SFL trots out the old chestnut AFL guidelines?

At least a competitive carnival should be held at the end of the year, after all the kids keep score.



Closer to home, North East Metro Juniors start premiership tables and finals from U/11 level:
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info ... 3784-0-0-0

They even run an U/6 program
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info ... 0&a=LADDER

Although I am sure the ground will open up and swallow them all as a penalty for their misdeeds.
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