by Windbag » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:19 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:08 pm
Windbag wrote:Association match scores anybody?
by Windbag » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:49 pm
by Legs Man » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:43 am
chopper7 wrote:oldbomber wrote:Dutchy wrote:What is going on at the HFL, drama at every turn the last couple of years, its reputation outside the league is getting dismantled every day.
Yep. As an outsider this league has well and truly become an absolute joke from an administrative point of view lucky somehow the footy is still at a decent standard judging by the odd game i have seen over last few years... this board cant sort out promotion and relegation system losing big $ in court, cant round up an interleague team leaving rmfl high and dry at short notice and now they cant even schedule their own finals fixture properly! What do these absolute dead beats on the board have to do to get sacked?? Clearly these peanuts have no idea how to run a league(no other solid country league in s.a has half these major issues) and are doing and have done for years now some serious damage to any reputation it has left...its time for change NOW on the board before these incompetent dead s#*ts destroy this great league any further....in my opinion
Pack your bags and move along you absolute dead beat! Yes the finals could have been organised better but get on and deal with it. The two other points you make cal completely back onto the clubs. If you had any understanding of this league then you would know the CLUBS voted in the by-laws regarding promotion and relagation, it was because one club decided to think they were bigger than the other 9 clubs in the league and take up the decision in court. How would you feel being on the board as a volunteer and being taken to the Supreme Court over a matter that 12 months ago was agreed on by everyone, with a budget that would never match the club taking the leagues budget and to be continuously bashed around by media that you can't do your job? The interleague situation was once again lack of support from the clubs in the league, nothing to do with the board. The clubs once again voted on the interleague game going ahead and said they would give their support only for all clubs besides Mt Barker, Lobethal, Uraidla, Mt Lofty and Onkas not holding up to their word and not supporting the whole thing. What would you do? Play with 9 blokes? Then it is blokes like you who also continue to bash the HFLs name without knowing all the facts and politics that are going on.
It is a volunteers role, so you think you can do it better whilst trying to work a 38hr week then by all means you spud go right ahead!!
On another note, should be a cracker day tomorrow at loby for the Divvy 2 boys playing the Mallee.
by Peakedinhighschool » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:04 pm
by cracka » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:07 pm
Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle
by Elmer J Thudpucker » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:14 pm
Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle
by oldbomber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:07 am
cracka wrote:oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...
So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.
by always there » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:53 pm
oldbomber wrote:cracka wrote:oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...
So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.
Yes. I just want to see this board stand up, show some strength and prove they have control and direction on certain issues...In victoria a 2 week suspension is what I have seen a league punish a player with who didnt have a valid reason for not playing. Was harsh but showed the league was serious about improving their ranking and made all other clubs ensure their stars were available or risk losing them for a couple of weeks mid season. Fines would be too extreme and funnily enough the same bloke played interleague the next year albeit probably only to avoid suspension again.
Overall though I wouldnt mind if interleague was scrapped...just dont line up another league and leave them high and dry at the last minute when you can get a div 2 side together as it looks very unprofessional.
by Look Good In Leather » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:56 pm
always there wrote:oldbomber wrote:cracka wrote:oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...
So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.
Yes. I just want to see this board stand up, show some strength and prove they have control and direction on certain issues...In victoria a 2 week suspension is what I have seen a league punish a player with who didnt have a valid reason for not playing. Was harsh but showed the league was serious about improving their ranking and made all other clubs ensure their stars were available or risk losing them for a couple of weeks mid season. Fines would be too extreme and funnily enough the same bloke played interleague the next year albeit probably only to avoid suspension again.
Overall though I wouldnt mind if interleague was scrapped...just dont line up another league and leave them high and dry at the last minute when you can get a div 2 side together as it looks very unprofessional.
Are you listening? The clubs that did not support the inter-league, after saying that they would, have made us look like twits and unprofessional not the HFL board. The HFL would not have gone ahead with organising the games without the assurance from all clubs that they would support it. What you people do not see is that these clubs and comments and bagging of the HFL could bring about its demise and then you,will have no where to play. Get it together people and get your clubs pulling together and supporting the league and not making it personal. The rot will set in and that will be the end.
by grasshopper22 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:52 am
by 19thman » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:06 pm
Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle
by RooShootOhh » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:15 am
Legs Man wrote:Only problem was that the HFL didn't show the foresight or common sense to realise that it would have made the whole competition a mockery had they relegated the Div 1 premiers to Div 2.
It could have been and should have been solved with a proactive approach by the HFL once Echunga had won the flag.
Certainly a unique situation when they won - and that was the time to take the initiative and sort it out sensibly - not dig the heels in and make a bad situation worse.
Any club that was in Echunga's situation would have taken the same approach once the HFL rolled out the "rules are rules" and "you're going down" statements and didn't try to work an amicable outcome.
Hopefully everyone has learnt from the experience and a more conciliatory approach will be taken in future.
Let's get over this and enjoy the great competition we have this year - then hope a smart revamped structure is put in place for 2016.
Knowing the plight of some clubs - even in Div 1 - regarding juniors and capacity to field these teams there are hopefully solutions being derived NOW in preparation for next season.
The programming dilemma could have been resolved fairly simply but unfortunately wasn't - let's face it that the extra week break isn't ideal and probably shouldn't have even happened - and it hasn't helped with rebuilding the league's standing.
There is still the opportunity to fix this which I hope happens and shows all within and outside of our league that things have changed.
by running defender » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:25 pm
by Legs Man » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:02 pm
RooShootOhh wrote:Legs Man wrote:Only problem was that the HFL didn't show the foresight or common sense to realise that it would have made the whole competition a mockery had they relegated the Div 1 premiers to Div 2.
It could have been and should have been solved with a proactive approach by the HFL once Echunga had won the flag.
Certainly a unique situation when they won - and that was the time to take the initiative and sort it out sensibly - not dig the heels in and make a bad situation worse.
Any club that was in Echunga's situation would have taken the same approach once the HFL rolled out the "rules are rules" and "you're going down" statements and didn't try to work an amicable outcome.
Hopefully everyone has learnt from the experience and a more conciliatory approach will be taken in future.
Let's get over this and enjoy the great competition we have this year - then hope a smart revamped structure is put in place for 2016.
Knowing the plight of some clubs - even in Div 1 - regarding juniors and capacity to field these teams there are hopefully solutions being derived NOW in preparation for next season.
The programming dilemma could have been resolved fairly simply but unfortunately wasn't - let's face it that the extra week break isn't ideal and probably shouldn't have even happened - and it hasn't helped with rebuilding the league's standing.
There is still the opportunity to fix this which I hope happens and shows all within and outside of our league that things have changed.
Do you actually hear yourself...?
Your club along with every other club voted on the Promotion/Relegation issue, yet you say the Board didn't have the foresight! MAYBE your club official should have said something at the previous AGM, they had their chance, didn't, yet your bunch of sooks couldn't cop that sweetly.
The reality was there was nothing to sort out... And now trying to argue that the premiers can't get related is Bullsh!t, thats not what you argued in court, nor did any rule change around promotion/relegation get changed have anything to do with Premiers of Div 1 staying up.
What would have happened if even the finals wins weren't enough to keep you off the bottom of the relegation table, the new rule change wouldn't have helped there.
The only people that need to learn anything from the experience of last year is your club. Learn that they are not bigger than any other club or the league for that matter...
by always there » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:46 am
running defender wrote:Sooky sooky lala roo boy get over it . At least we had the guts to go through with no support apart from two clubs. All you other clubs are to scared to say anything , it's just like the AGM no one queries anything it's just yes yes all passed . Your all just jealous the new boys took out the cup . You should be asking the board why they strongly recommend fighting the case , not one club spoke up, just show of hands passed, they just took 95k for the finals and not one red cent back to clubs for putting on the show and what about this years finals what a stuff up, why don't div 2 play on country champion weekend ? Because CFL said so well stuff em what are they gunna do suspend the whole league . We need forward thinking people to run this league not people stuck in the 80's
by batmanbegins » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:29 pm
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