2015 Ashes

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby RB » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:41 pm

helicopterking wrote:We failed to make enough runs. Batters did not convert starts
1st innings
Warner 17
Smith 33
Clarke 38
Voges 31
Watson 30
Haddin 22.

One of these blokes makes a good 100 and another makes a half century, we win.

England had 4 blokes make 50 or over in the first innings. Australia had 1

I agree that we didn't quite make enough runs, but Rogers nearly made a century and we ended up with 308, not a bad score in the 2nd innings of a test on a wicket which probably suited bowlers slightly more than batsmen.

I think conceding 430 in the 1st innings did it - how often do teams win after conceding 430?

However, the batsman did let the side down as a draw is certainly possible after conceding that score.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jase » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:49 pm

helicopterking wrote:We failed to make enough runs. Batters did not convert starts
1st innings
Warner 17
Smith 33
Clarke 38
Voges 31
Watson 30
Haddin 22.

One of these blokes makes a good 100 and another makes a half century, we win.

England had 4 blokes make 50 or over in the first innings. Australia had 1

And if more of Englands players that made 50 made 100 you still wouldnt have won...

To many if and buts flying around...
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:54 pm

RB wrote:
I think conceding 430 in the 1st innings did it - how often do teams win after conceding 430?


Below is the list of times that someone has conceded 430+ when bowling first in the first innings, and then going on to win, surprised me a lot that there has only been 19 of them

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby helicopterking » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:04 pm

Jase wrote:
helicopterking wrote:We failed to make enough runs. Batters did not convert starts
1st innings
Warner 17
Smith 33
Clarke 38
Voges 31
Watson 30
Haddin 22.

One of these blokes makes a good 100 and another makes a half century, we win.

England had 4 blokes make 50 or over in the first innings. Australia had 1

And if more of Englands players that made 50 made 100 you still wouldnt have won...

To many if and buts flying around...


Didn't use the word "if" or "but " once.. ;)
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jase » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:18 pm

helicopterking wrote:
Jase wrote:
helicopterking wrote:We failed to make enough runs. Batters did not convert starts
1st innings
Warner 17
Smith 33
Clarke 38
Voges 31
Watson 30
Haddin 22.

One of these blokes makes a good 100 and another makes a half century, we win.

England had 4 blokes make 50 or over in the first innings. Australia had 1

And if more of Englands players that made 50 made 100 you still wouldnt have won...

To many if and buts flying around...


Didn't use the word "if" or "but " once.. ;)

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RB wrote:
helicopterking wrote:We failed to make enough runs. Batters did not convert starts
1st innings
Warner 17
Smith 33
Clarke 38
Voges 31
Watson 30
Haddin 22.

One of these blokes makes a good 100 and another makes a half century, we win.

England had 4 blokes make 50 or over in the first innings. Australia had 1

I agree that we didn't quite make enough runs, but Rogers nearly made a century and we ended up with 308, not a bad score in the 2nd innings of a test on a wicket which probably suited bowlers slightly more than batsmen.

I think conceding 430 in the 1st innings did it - how often do teams win after conceding 430?

However, the batsman did let the side down as a draw is certainly possible after conceding that score.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby HairyGiant » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:16 pm

When was the last time Warner actually made runs when it counts? Can bat but I think his best hasn't been for a while
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby hawks21 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:31 pm

HairyGiant wrote:When was the last time Warner actually made runs when it counts? Can bat but I think his best hasn't been for a while

He certainly is due for some big runs. Thought he applied himself well and did all the hard work in the first test (against some quality bowling) but did not reward himself. I have a feeling he will explode in this series and put up a couple of big scores!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby David Brent » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:42 pm

HairyGiant wrote:When was the last time Warner actually made runs when it counts? Can bat but I think his best hasn't been for a while


SInce the last Ashes in Aus he has made at least one ton in every series he has played except for the 2 test series v WI just gone.
3 tons against South Africa away count as runs when it counts to me...

Seems a touch out of form I agree but to say he hasn't made runs when it counts is harsh IMO.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby heater31 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:04 pm

Clarke won toss and bats
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby carey » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:29 pm

I Can't help but feel this will be Warners day.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby RustyCage » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:34 pm

8 from the first over, nice!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby valleys07 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Surely Anderson is due for a warning?

Encroached the protected area during his follow through, multiple times during his first 2 overs.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby helicopterking » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Warner schnicking full tosses. Not seeing them at all
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby heater31 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:50 pm

Lords is Rogers' English Home ground he should enjoy batting here....

Warner just needs to dig in and fight hard. Spending time in the middle is the best way to find form.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby tigerpie » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:13 pm

valleys07 wrote:Surely Anderson is due for a warning?

Encroached the protected area during his follow through, multiple times during his first 2 overs.

Yep I agree. He's not doing his batters much of a favour.
Stop it or get off....for this innings.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby heater31 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:30 pm

0/62 after 13

Rogers 28
Warner 29


Poms heads starting to drop, meandering into position in the field.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby stan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:30 pm

tigerpie wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Surely Anderson is due for a warning?

Encroached the protected area during his follow through, multiple times during his first 2 overs.

Yep I agree. He's not doing his batters much of a favour.
Stop it or get off....for this innings.

Nah let him go. **** it up as much as he likes.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Keefy » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:31 pm

Warner starting to get a few off the middle now
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:31 pm

Love Rogers intent!!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby stan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:32 pm

Bit of swing though for Anderson. Still dangerous as is moving both ways.

Commentators now talking about Anderson and where he is running.

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