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Postby bennymacca » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:10 am

My point was we should have been paying that gst all along. So it isn't an extra tax it is one they have not been collecting. So if there is a cost effective way for them to do that, it is something I support
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Coach Bombay » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:08 pm

Why would you hijack a same sex marriage protest and bang on about how marriage is for a man and woman only? Everyone one deserves the right to marriage FFS. If your against same sex marriage then go find a gun and go kill yourself.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby cracka » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:16 pm

tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:It is something they can do that won't hurt the economy that much so I think it is the best way to raise some coin.


raise some coin? it is the government, it will cost money. how much will it cost them to get the $10 from me for that $100 item i bought?

and forgive my ignorance, but what is the mechanism they have now for collecting it that wasnt there before? storing it at customs till i pay the $10 somewhere? how much will these storage facilities cost? and how much is the (presumably) postal bill going to be to send out all these letters of demand to shoppers? how often will they just outright lose your goods after you have paid them the GST? and how many person hours will be devoted to sorting that out?

when it is big items, or big shipments, i can see the cost benefit, but for that Elsa outfit i got off ebay for by (nearly) 6 year old, i can only see it costing more and taking more time. way to go team australia.....

edited to add, if they really needed to raise coin that badly, remove tax free status for churches unless they can prove that the money went to a charitable cause. and by charitable cause i dont mean expanding their buildings or property, i mean that it went to clothing or food for the homeless etc. but it wont happen

Here's an idea, boycott ebay & buy from a local shop.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby bennymacca » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:18 pm

cracka wrote:
tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:It is something they can do that won't hurt the economy that much so I think it is the best way to raise some coin.


raise some coin? it is the government, it will cost money. how much will it cost them to get the $10 from me for that $100 item i bought?

and forgive my ignorance, but what is the mechanism they have now for collecting it that wasnt there before? storing it at customs till i pay the $10 somewhere? how much will these storage facilities cost? and how much is the (presumably) postal bill going to be to send out all these letters of demand to shoppers? how often will they just outright lose your goods after you have paid them the GST? and how many person hours will be devoted to sorting that out?

when it is big items, or big shipments, i can see the cost benefit, but for that Elsa outfit i got off ebay for by (nearly) 6 year old, i can only see it costing more and taking more time. way to go team australia.....

edited to add, if they really needed to raise coin that badly, remove tax free status for churches unless they can prove that the money went to a charitable cause. and by charitable cause i dont mean expanding their buildings or property, i mean that it went to clothing or food for the homeless etc. but it wont happen

Here's an idea, boycott ebay & buy from a local shop.


why would you do that when ebay is so much cheaper?

Even with an extra 10% added on to most online purchases, the local shops will still be dearer most of the time
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby cracka » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:20 pm

Coach Bombay wrote:Why would you hijack a same sex marriage protest and bang on about how marriage is for a man and woman only? Everyone one deserves the right to marriage FFS. If your against same sex marriage then go find a gun and go kill yourself.

37 million people use the infidelity website Ashley Maddison worldwide & some say gay marriage will ruin the sanctity of it. Go figure.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby cracka » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:21 pm

bennymacca wrote:
cracka wrote:
tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:It is something they can do that won't hurt the economy that much so I think it is the best way to raise some coin.


raise some coin? it is the government, it will cost money. how much will it cost them to get the $10 from me for that $100 item i bought?

and forgive my ignorance, but what is the mechanism they have now for collecting it that wasnt there before? storing it at customs till i pay the $10 somewhere? how much will these storage facilities cost? and how much is the (presumably) postal bill going to be to send out all these letters of demand to shoppers? how often will they just outright lose your goods after you have paid them the GST? and how many person hours will be devoted to sorting that out?

when it is big items, or big shipments, i can see the cost benefit, but for that Elsa outfit i got off ebay for by (nearly) 6 year old, i can only see it costing more and taking more time. way to go team australia.....

edited to add, if they really needed to raise coin that badly, remove tax free status for churches unless they can prove that the money went to a charitable cause. and by charitable cause i dont mean expanding their buildings or property, i mean that it went to clothing or food for the homeless etc. but it wont happen

Here's an idea, boycott ebay & buy from a local shop.


why would you do that when ebay is so much cheaper?

Even with an extra 10% added on to most online purchases, the local shops will still be dearer most of the time

I do it for my children's future.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby tipper » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:17 pm

bennymacca wrote:My point was we should have been paying that gst all along. So it isn't an extra tax it is one they have not been collecting. So if there is a cost effective way for them to do that, it is something I support

But thats my point. It wont be cost effective. It will cost more to collect than they get from it. they have just introduced it to keep the likes of gerry harvey happy, nothing more
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby tipper » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:20 pm

cracka wrote:
tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:It is something they can do that won't hurt the economy that much so I think it is the best way to raise some coin.


raise some coin? it is the government, it will cost money. how much will it cost them to get the $10 from me for that $100 item i bought?

and forgive my ignorance, but what is the mechanism they have now for collecting it that wasnt there before? storing it at customs till i pay the $10 somewhere? how much will these storage facilities cost? and how much is the (presumably) postal bill going to be to send out all these letters of demand to shoppers? how often will they just outright lose your goods after you have paid them the GST? and how many person hours will be devoted to sorting that out?

when it is big items, or big shipments, i can see the cost benefit, but for that Elsa outfit i got off ebay for by (nearly) 6 year old, i can only see it costing more and taking more time. way to go team australia.....

edited to add, if they really needed to raise coin that badly, remove tax free status for churches unless they can prove that the money went to a charitable cause. and by charitable cause i dont mean expanding their buildings or property, i mean that it went to clothing or food for the homeless etc. but it wont happen

Here's an idea, boycott ebay & buy from a local shop.

I actually dont buy much online, and the things i plan on buying shortly just arent available here.

I just dont believe this should be introduced when it will hurt shoppers, and hurt the government as it isnt cost effective. All to keep their donors happy. Its ******* bullshit
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby bennymacca » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:30 pm

tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:My point was we should have been paying that gst all along. So it isn't an extra tax it is one they have not been collecting. So if there is a cost effective way for them to do that, it is something I support

But thats my point. It wont be cost effective. It will cost more to collect than they get from it. they have just introduced it to keep the likes of gerry harvey happy, nothing more


how do you know?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby tipper » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:40 pm

bennymacca wrote:
tipper wrote:
bennymacca wrote:My point was we should have been paying that gst all along. So it isn't an extra tax it is one they have not been collecting. So if there is a cost effective way for them to do that, it is something I support

But thats my point. It wont be cost effective. It will cost more to collect than they get from it. they have just introduced it to keep the likes of gerry harvey happy, nothing more


how do you know?

How do you know it will be cost effective?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby stan » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:31 am

Gozu wrote:
bennymacca wrote:It is something they can do that won't hurt the economy that much so I think it is the best way to raise some coin.


Might not hurt the economy but will hurt the poor. Not that politicians give a shit about things like that. I can think of a number of better ways to raise revenue or increase savings like getting rid of their so called 'overseas study tours'.

Edit: On cue or charging taxpayers to attend other politicians weddings.

Embattled Speaker Bronwyn Bishop is being accused of using taxpayers money to attend former Liberal MP Sophie Mirabella's wedding, calling the trip official business.

The fresh allegations come after Ms Bishop was heavily criticised for using a taxpayer funded helicopter to travel from Melbourne to Geelong.


http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/0 ... to-wedding

And 6 other MP's.

FFS when did that heavy lifting start again?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:51 am

Heavy lifting started when Team Australia took over and delegated that task to its employers
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Kahuna » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:06 am

Coach Bombay wrote: Everyone one deserves the right to marriage FFS. If your against same sex marriage then go find a gun and go kill yourself.


An eloquent summation of the case for.
Also helps explain the relative silence from those opposed or indifferent, the lack of tolerance to a different view.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby bennymacca » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:44 am

Tolerance for a different view? What about tolerance for two gay people wanting to marry!
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Kahuna » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:06 pm

Some don't believe in gay marriage Benny. They have a right to their opinions and to express them without being told to go and kill themselves. That's the tolerance I was referring to.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby RustyCage » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:20 pm

Kahuna wrote:
Coach Bombay wrote: Everyone one deserves the right to marriage FFS. If your against same sex marriage then go find a gun and go kill yourself.


An eloquent summation of the case for.
Also helps explain the relative silence from those opposed or indifferent, the lack of tolerance to a different view.


I'm accepting of others views until they start impacting on the rights and wellbeing of other people, and that's when it changes from an opinion to being selfish and pig headed.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby bennymacca » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:32 pm

Kahuna wrote:Some don't believe in gay marriage Benny. They have a right to their opinions and to express them without being told to go and kill themselves. That's the tolerance I was referring to.


Once again, equating tolerance for your opinion to tolerance for someone being able to marry someone is ridiculousness of the highest order.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Kahuna » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:37 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Kahuna wrote:Some don't believe in gay marriage Benny. They have a right to their opinions and to express them without being told to go and kill themselves. That's the tolerance I was referring to.


Once again, equating tolerance for your opinion to tolerance for someone being able to marry someone is ridiculousness of the highest order.


If you say so. :roll:
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby bennymacca » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:38 pm

Why do you think two other people shouldn't be able to marry?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Kahuna » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:56 pm

Where did I say they shouldn't?
You've jumped to a conclusion after I mentioned tolerance was a two way street.
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