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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby another grub » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:38 pm

Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and thats what it is an opinion. No one is right and no one is wrong.
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby Q. » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:49 pm

another grub wrote:Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and thats what it is an opinion. No one is right and no one is wrong.

Unless you're Adam Goodes, who isn't allowed an opinion and is obviously wrong.
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:50 pm

"Fellas, it’s OK to be in pain. It’s OK to hurt. It’s OK to be sad. It’s no longer OK to suffer in silence."
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:45 am

Q. wrote:
another grub wrote:Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and thats what it is an opinion. No one is right and no one is wrong.

Unless you're Adam Goodes, who isn't allowed an opinion and is obviously wrong.

well said Q...
"Fellas, it’s OK to be in pain. It’s OK to hurt. It’s OK to be sad. It’s no longer OK to suffer in silence."
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:47 am

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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:38 am

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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:38 am

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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:44 am

Wedgie wrote:
whufc wrote:
cracka wrote:Did/does Stuart Broad, Wayne Carey, Hayden Ballentine & anyone else who is booed think it's because of their race though.


It would be interesting to see a poll on whether thought the booing was motivated by

-racism
-off field personality
-on field personality
-both
-other

It'd be pointless as most of the racism is either denied or sub conscious.
They'd just use the other answers as a cop out.


Yeah good point
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:04 am

woodublieve12 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up


I reckon the author lost their credibility when she claimed it was normal to boo Milne because he was 'accused' of a crime yet booing Goodes is a no no because his committed no crime.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty

The other part that got me was her defending the 'war cry' As others have mentioned this war cry should never be compared to the haka and secondly imho it wasn't the dance itself it was the nature of it to individuals in a crowd, you lose credibility when you have the racism issues he had with the girl, he then told the world how affected he was by the booing and how he disapproved it only to go and direct a 'come at me' dance at a group of supporters.

The general public who aren't racist should stop booing, Goodes should concentrate on staying out the media until all this cools down and everyone should go back to enjoying aussie rules, it really is a fiasco
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby OnSong » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:11 am

whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up


I reckon the author lost their credibility when she claimed it was normal to boo Milne because he was 'accused' of a crime yet booing Goodes is a no no because his committed no crime.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty

Well, Cy Walsh hasn't been convicted yet either
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:14 am

OnSong wrote:
whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up


I reckon the author lost their credibility when she claimed it was normal to boo Milne because he was 'accused' of a crime yet booing Goodes is a no no because his committed no crime.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty

Well, Cy Walsh hasn't been convicted yet either


Clearly not the same!!! But either way people should let the justic system run its course as in the Milne case he was proven innocent despite the fact his one of the most annoying footballers in the history of the game
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby OnSong » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:22 am

Obviously not the same but just pointing out there's a long history of people reacting negatively towards an alleged perpetrator before going through the judicial system. But we digress.
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby cennals05 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:25 am

whufc wrote:
OnSong wrote:
whufc wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up


I reckon the author lost their credibility when she claimed it was normal to boo Milne because he was 'accused' of a crime yet booing Goodes is a no no because his committed no crime.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty

Well, Cy Walsh hasn't been convicted yet either


Clearly not the same!!! But either way people should let the justic system run its course as in the Milne case he was proven innocent despite the fact his one of the most annoying footballers in the history of the game

He wasn't proven innocent. He pleaded guilty to indecent assault.
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:27 am

My mistake but the point still stands about being innocent until proven guilty

Anyway I think most agree the Goodes saga no matter who is in the right or wrong has gone on far to long and it's time to stop
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby Q. » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:29 am

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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:44 am

woodublieve12 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up

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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:48 am

Q. wrote:Love me some First Dog:


funny but also sad because its true
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby tipper » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:14 am

bennymacca wrote:
Q. wrote:Love me some First Dog:


funny but also sad because its true


is it just white people though as the cartoon assumes? has someone done a census on the Booers? does it change the racist accusations if non anglo-saxon people are joining in too?
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:22 am

What do people do think of Goodes indefinite leave

Obviously if he feels he can't play than he is more than in his rights to not play

The unfortunate otherwise to this though is I now think this issue is going to drag on even longer and the media will now focus on his return and the crowd reactions when that happens

Personally I would think this week would have been a good oppurtunity for him to play and for the country to see the boos stop and in fact he may have even been applauded (the last thing I think Adelaide fans will be thinking of doing is booing Goodes)

But obviously if his not mentally prepared then he can't be made to play which is fair enough
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Re: Sydney Swans 2015

Postby morell » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:29 am

It's brilliant and I shared it on my 'book today.

Surprised, appalled and disgusted by the seething masses reaction to this. Honestly thought we were more educated as a society.

I guess not. :(
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