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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Q. » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:07 pm

At least Steve Smith isn't a wanker, should be able to build a great team around him.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:13 pm

Interesting article but f**k I hate Craddock, he's a f**king flog of the highest order. How about you go and play international cricket before we really listen to what you have to say
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:17 pm

I saw a pic on the Cricket.com.au Instagram page last night of Michael Clarke and it was one of the many tribute photos they put up for him. A bloke left a comment on there saying Clarke's ongoing back problems were due to him getting bummed too much. I LOLed pretty hard at that
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Gozu » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:25 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:I saw a pic on the Cricket.com.au Instagram page last night of Michael Clarke and it was one of the many tribute photos they put up for him. A bloke left a comment on there saying Clarke's ongoing back problems were due to him getting bummed too much. I LOLed pretty hard at that


:lol: Juvenile but hilarious
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:40 pm

Gozu wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:I saw a pic on the Cricket.com.au Instagram page last night of Michael Clarke and it was one of the many tribute photos they put up for him. A bloke left a comment on there saying Clarke's ongoing back problems were due to him getting bummed too much. I LOLed pretty hard at that


[emoji38] Juvenile but hilarious

I should of screenshot it!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Q. » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:51 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:Interesting article but f**k I hate Craddock, he's a f**king flog of the highest order. How about you go and play international cricket before we really listen to what you have to say

That used to be a rule in this forum.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby whufc » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:11 pm

Think the term 'gun cricketer shit bloke' applies pretty true to Clarke.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jase » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:16 pm

Yeah the way he behaved and represented the Australian Cricket team, the Hughes family etc etc makes him a bloody brilliant bloke in my eyes...

I cant stand the Aussie cricket team as a rule but Michael Clarke earnt my respect totally for the way he carried himself and represented his team in that time...

How soon some people want to pot him once he's finished...

Shit bloke yeah nah
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:45 am

Yep, all well-documented.
That article just reminds me of why those three blokes have personalities that I don't like.

There must be some truth to the accusations about Clarke, he's made some questionable decisions over the years around team ethic.
Symonds is a bloke who clearly doesn't learn from his mistakes and is happy to place all the blame elsewhere.
And, Haydos is a bloke who likes to twist the knife, even when it's not necessary. Why did he have to come out and say those things? It does him no favours.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:01 am

And now Buchanan has joined the chorus against Clarke
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Stumps » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:05 am

hardly the slamming the headline stated. boring
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:25 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Yep, all well-documented.
That article just reminds me of why those three blokes have personalities that I don't like.

There must be some truth to the accusations about Clarke, he's made some questionable decisions over the years around team ethic.
Symonds is a bloke who clearly doesn't learn from his mistakes and is happy to place all the blame elsewhere.
And, Haydos is a bloke who likes to twist the knife, even when it's not necessary. Why did he have to come out and say those things? It does him no favours.


From what I gather many who have gained the honor of a Baggy Green have suffered with a case of the "I's" from time to time.

As in, I can do this, I think this of that, I know more about it than you type thing.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:38 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Yep, all well-documented.
That article just reminds me of why those three blokes have personalities that I don't like.

There must be some truth to the accusations about Clarke, he's made some questionable decisions over the years around team ethic.
Symonds is a bloke who clearly doesn't learn from his mistakes and is happy to place all the blame elsewhere.
And, Haydos is a bloke who likes to twist the knife, even when it's not necessary. Why did he have to come out and say those things? It does him no favours.

Pretty crap form from Symonds especially after Clarke helped save his career and also from getting his head kicked in
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:09 am

And also in 2009, the "leadership group" would have included Ponting as well - Clarke and Ponting, two recognized hard workers - were trying to rebuild the team after losing all those players. Perhaps they'd had a gutsful of the distractions you were causing, Roy.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby MJ_23 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:33 am

Hayden is a wanker.

Funny how he absolutely slammed England a few years ago for revealing locker room secrets and conversations etc yet he has continued to do exactly the same thing.

Hayden isn't as popular as he would like to pretend
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby heater31 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:08 am

MJ_23 wrote:Hayden is a wanker.

Funny how he absolutely slammed England a few years ago for revealing locker room secrets and conversations etc yet he has continued to do exactly the same thing.

Hayden isn't as popular as he would like to pretend



But he does have a point that Michael Clarke is involved in several 'me, me, me' moments during his career - Dumping Lara mid tour to NZ, the Simon Katich incident now the short leg refusal (however the senior players reasoning is bordering on bullying)
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Q. » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:16 am

I hope that some of our form issues can be contributed to Clarke's poor leadership.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:45 am

heater31 wrote:
MJ_23 wrote:Hayden is a wanker.

Funny how he absolutely slammed England a few years ago for revealing locker room secrets and conversations etc yet he has continued to do exactly the same thing.

Hayden isn't as popular as he would like to pretend



But he does have a point that Michael Clarke is involved in several 'me, me, me' moments during his career - Dumping Lara mid tour to NZ, the Simon Katich incident now the short leg refusal (however the senior players reasoning is bordering on bullying)

Pup has developed as good as anyone ever has over time, I heard an interview with him the other day where he thanked the supporters, the ones that grew to like him and the haters as they made him look at himself and provided motivation for himself.

Although most of us will never know, did he reek of arrogance behind closed doors, did he have the support of his players, was he running a totalitarian regime, was his captaincy caught somewhere between an AB, Steve Waugh and a Punter type?

There's been an apparent rift between Boof and himself, judging by the stories circulating it seems to be likely as they are two completely different types of character.

Although I disliked him intensely for the first part of his career I always respected his ability but struggled to see how his body could be so fragile given his frame and role within the team. If he was able to to bowl a lot more we would've been a far more successful team as his spinners were as good as anyone's and he was a wicket taker. He has been one of the sweetest timers of the ball I have seen and for someone with such a patient temperament his ability to stand there and perfectly time a straight drive for 6 with ease off of anyone in the world was something to admire.

I've enjoyed watching his craft, I've loved the way that he's responded to the critic's over time by scoring runs and then becoming a test captain despite 75% of Australian cricket followers objecting, they are the things I'll remember him for although I can't wait to hear the full stories behind the Katich scenario and the Hussey thing.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:59 am

You've summed it up pretty well, LM. You astute cricket watcher, you.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:06 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:You've summed it up pretty well, LM. You astute cricket watcher, you.


Whether you like the guy or not, you gotta give credit where credit's due.
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