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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:32 am

Robran wrote:So many better choices for the norm smith don't think Cyril was at his most electric today, smith, Mitchell, frawley, Gibson and gaff just to name a few..


I had backed Smith, Frawley and Mitchell for Norm, even with my hip pocket in mind im happy to concede Cyril was BOG. Game was over at half time, he was best at that point
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:35 am

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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Congrats Hawthorn

Definitely the best team since the AFL started


Most successful, yes. Best? Debatable. The Hawks are the "AFL All Stars" now. They've recruited exceptional well as the acquisitions of Frawley and Lake in particular have proven. There is an extra 44 players in the league now which means logically the standard cannot be the same. I still reckon that the current Hawks are t as good as Essendon 1999-01, Brisbane 1999-2004 and Geelong 2007-11. You could state a case for North and the Eagles in the nineties too. The competition is soft these days, Geelong made the top four last year for a start.

Hawthorn are without doubt the best drilled side that I can recall since the Eagles 1990-1994. Al Clarkson might go down as the best coach of all time. It's certainly up to the other clubs to catch up but Hawthorn are primed to win more flags as long as Cyril, Mitchell and Hodge stay sound.

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And yet this Geelong side of 07-11 couldnt beat this mediocre team of 08 that you speak of :shock: ;)
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:36 am

Spargo wrote:Most of WC simply look happy to be there.
No bias umpiring helping them either this week.


Some genius suggested that after last weeks game that the way WCE carried on it was their GF and got laughed at. Reckon that bloke knows what he's talking about
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:39 am

Cheers to another 6 months of bliss on SA Footy, looking forward to Wristy's return from holidays
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:31 am

I would like to thank west coast for them taking the heat of me for the swans supporter. West coast were much worse yesterday.
Hawks took the foot off at 3 qtr time and also cost me winning 140
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby Ruben Carter » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:07 am

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bennymacca wrote:Congrats to the Hawks. Cant say they didnt deserve it after travelling to perth twice


Oh the poor things !

W. Coast Travel East a dozen times for the season!

Hawthorn DONT DESERVE a HOME Grand Final but thats just the benefit the Victorian teams get regardless of whether they deserve it or not !

The AFL is all about making money and Maximizing the value of their product, couldn't give a rats about fairness.

so what you're saying is WCE should've had 3 home finals? You're dreaming. I reckon it wouldn't have mattered anyway, on yesterday's form, Hawks would've beaten them anywhere. Yeah, it is about $$ and so it should be.
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby therisingblues » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:15 am

Ruben Carter wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Congrats to the Hawks. Cant say they didnt deserve it after travelling to perth twice


Oh the poor things !

W. Coast Travel East a dozen times for the season!

Hawthorn DONT DESERVE a HOME Grand Final but thats just the benefit the Victorian teams get regardless of whether they deserve it or not !

The AFL is all about making money and Maximizing the value of their product, couldn't give a rats about fairness.

so what you're saying is WCE should've had 3 home finals? You're dreaming. I reckon it wouldn't have mattered anyway, on yesterday's form, Hawks would've beaten them anywhere. Yeah, it is about $$ and so it should be.

But if Collingwood finish top or second, they would receive three home finals.
The reason this happens is fundamentally ridiculous, and wouldn't happen it the AFL was overseen by a genuine custodian of the game
But its does happen and there's no discernment between the good of the game and making money here. They take the money almost every time, and it's killing the game.
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:18 am

Time to implement a rotating roster. Start off at the G and then go around to SA, WA, QLD and NSW
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby therisingblues » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:26 am

Don't think we need a roster.
Either the right to host a home final is earned, or it happens at a neutral venue.
Even Eddie complains when an unfair process goes against his club. To accept unfair benefits is just hypocrisy.
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby Jim05 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:28 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Time to implement a rotating roster. Start off at the G and then go around to SA, WA, QLD and NSW

Those states need to build 100k capacity stadiums. Would be a joke holding a GF at one of the other tinpot stadiums
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:29 am

daysofourlives wrote:
And yet this Geelong side of 07-11 couldnt beat this mediocre team of 08 that you speak of :shock: ;)


That went better than expected. :)

I reckon you were better in 08 than now. No matter how many flags you win in this 18 team comp nothing will convince me that if we played 08 over ten times we would win at least 8 of them. The fact we won the next 11 gives a better indication than that one match.

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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:30 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Time to implement a rotating roster. Start off at the G and then go around to SA, WA, QLD and NSW


Bullshit. If you can't win at the G you don't deserve the flag.

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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:38 am

He grand final doesn't belong anywhere else!!! Mcg is perfect!
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby therisingblues » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:52 am

woodublieve12 wrote:He grand final doesn't belong anywhere else!!! Mcg is perfect!

Doesn't Sydney have a 100,000 capacity stadium these days?
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby therisingblues » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:54 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Time to implement a rotating roster. Start off at the G and then go around to SA, WA, QLD and NSW


Bullshit. If you can't win at the G you don't deserve the flag.

regards,

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It is a Victorian comp now,some people have swallowed the fact without side effects.
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:59 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
And yet this Geelong side of 07-11 couldnt beat this mediocre team of 08 that you speak of :shock: ;)


That went better than expected. :)

I reckon you were better in 08 than now. No matter how many flags you win in this 18 team comp nothing will convince me that if we played 08 over ten times we would win at least 8 of them. The fact we won the next 11 gives a better indication than that one match.

regards,

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Geelong were great for 5 minutes, hardly even in the conversation when it comes to greatest team of all despite your club trying to convince itself every time it wins a game.
The only debate now is which Hawthorn era is better, no other club in the picture.
If this team wins 4 in a row it will become number 1.
I also reckon the fact we have won the last 2 so easy devalues the achievment in some peoples eyes like yourself. Had they been close 10 point wins you would rate them higher which is just crazy. The dismantling of the 2nd best teams the last 2 years has been nothing short of extraordinary
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:09 am

therisingblues wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:He grand final doesn't belong anywhere else!!! Mcg is perfect!

Doesn't Sydney have a 100,000 capacity stadium these days?

Yeah and it's shit!
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:24 am

therisingblues wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Time to implement a rotating roster. Start off at the G and then go around to SA, WA, QLD and NSW


Bullshit. If you can't win at the G you don't deserve the flag.

regards,

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It is a Victorian comp now,some people have swallowed the fact without side effects.

Thoughts on moving the Boxing Day test?
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:37 am

Would like to see what it would be like if Melbourne had their test when we do and vice versa. Apart from the first day, not sure there would be too much difference, especially given the comparative populations.

Anyway, GF should always be at MCG, but teams need at least 3 games during the year. If you've finished in the top 6 or 8, you deserve to play at the MCG against those teams rather than going to Tassie, eg Freo v HW this year,
Maybe Hawthorn should be recognised for their foresight to stay at the MCG rather than go to Cocklands like other teams?
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Re: GRAND FINAL- WEST COAST V HAWTHORN

Postby therisingblues » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:39 am

Boxing day test? Now how's that relevant?
Think the Australia Day test situation would be a much closer comparison, right?
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