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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:33 am

S Demon wrote:So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to

That's how I've read it too.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Executive Member » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:40 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
S Demon wrote:So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to

That's how I've read it too.


Doesn't matter as one cant happen without the other, for example Salisbury may have asked not to go up, so unless Seaton agree to staying up, Salisbury would then have no choice but to go up regardless of their wish to stay down

and vice versa
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:06 am

Executive Member wrote:
Doesn't matter as one cant happen without the other, for example Salisbury may have asked not to go up, so unless Seaton agree to staying up, Salisbury would then have no choice but to go up regardless of their wish to stay down

and vice versa


It does matter, it's like dumping your girlfriend at school because you knew you were about to be dumped.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Executive Member » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:24 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
Doesn't matter as one cant happen without the other, for example Salisbury may have asked not to go up, so unless Seaton agree to staying up, Salisbury would then have no choice but to go up regardless of their wish to stay down

and vice versa


It does matter, it's like dumping your girlfriend at school because you knew you were about to be dumped.


no idea what your on about, never happened to me mate, went to Blackfriars 8)
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby S Demon » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:47 am

Executive Member wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
S Demon wrote:So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to

That's how I've read it too.


Doesn't matter as one cant happen without the other, for example Salisbury may have asked not to go up, so unless Seaton agree to staying up, Salisbury would then have no choice but to go up regardless of their wish to stay down

and vice versa


I don't think vice versa is applicable here. Seaton can't ask to stay up and then see if Salisbury want to stay down.

I understand one can't happen without the other, but it can only be initiated by one club in the first instance as per the rules. My initial query has been answered though
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Q. » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:55 am

I'm told that Salisbury didn't want to put bar profits at risk by going up a Div.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby S Demon » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:03 am

Q. wrote:I'm told that Salisbury didn't want to put bar profits at risk by going up a Div.

Div 3 clubs drink less beer?
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby heater31 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:09 am

S Demon wrote:
Q. wrote:I'm told that Salisbury didn't want to put bar profits at risk by going up a Div.

Div 3 clubs drink less beer?

Maybe opposition Div 3 club's supporters don't travel ;)
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Q. » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:20 am

S Demon wrote:
Q. wrote:I'm told that Salisbury didn't want to put bar profits at risk by going up a Div.

Div 3 clubs drink less beer?

Success = bar profits

Better chance of success in D4
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby jo172 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:22 am

Q. wrote:
S Demon wrote:
Q. wrote:I'm told that Salisbury didn't want to put bar profits at risk by going up a Div.

Div 3 clubs drink less beer?

Success = bar profits

Better chance of success in D4


If that's really the reason that would be pretty bloody weak.

Surely not the case?
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Slots It Through » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:11 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
S Demon wrote:So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to

That's how I've read it too.


Salisbury were given the first option. When they declined it was offered to Seaton. If they had said no, I think it may have been offered to Edwardstown.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Demon Juke » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:45 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
S Demon wrote:So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to

That's how I've read it too.


Salisbury were given the first option. When they declined it was offered to Seaton. If they had said no, I think it may have been offered to Edwardstown.


I was told Salisbury had done a deal with Seaton and this was last year at the Prem. final, I had a lot respect for Salisbury but now I am not sure. Salisbury are in a better place than Kilburn to go up, lost the grand final by a kick and the "b" grade won the premiership. I am sure we could have done a deal after we lost our last Grand final by 100points but we never thought about not going up as we are trying to play in a grade as high as we can.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:02 pm

Executive Member wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
Doesn't matter as one cant happen without the other, for example Salisbury may have asked not to go up, so unless Seaton agree to staying up, Salisbury would then have no choice but to go up regardless of their wish to stay down

and vice versa


It does matter, it's like dumping your girlfriend at school because you knew you were about to be dumped.


no idea what your on about, never happened to me mate, went to Blackfriars 8)


pfft amateur, I went there & was STILL dumped by a St Dominics girl.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:47 am

Demon Juke wrote:
I was told Salisbury had done a deal with Seaton and this was last year at the Prem. final, I had a lot respect for Salisbury but now I am not sure. Salisbury are in a better place than Kilburn to go up, lost the grand final by a kick and the "b" grade won the premiership. I am sure we could have done a deal after we lost our last Grand final by 100points but we never thought about not going up as we are trying to play in a grade as high as we can.

Each to their own I guess, Salisbury don't splash cash around which makes it hard for them to attract new players, as a kid, you generally hated Salisbury if you didn't play for them, probably nothing against Salisbury people as it could've been the colours, the emblem or their sustained success.
I do see their point, going up unprepared can have a detrimental affect.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Minion Master » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:01 am

If you're willing to play in the main dance then you should accept the system win or lose and go up a division or maybe settle for third and bow out in the 2nd qualifying final and remain in the same division.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby BZB27 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:33 pm

I think it has to do with the fact that salisbury for at least the last 10 years has been a top 3 team in div 4 and a bottom 3 team in div 3. I reckon they just want to steady themselves instead of all the yo-yoing
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Minion Master » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:46 pm

BZB27 wrote:I think it has to do with the fact that salisbury for at least the last 10 years has been a top 3 team in div 4 and a bottom 3 team in div 3. I reckon they just want to steady themselves instead of all the yo-yoing


can't have your cake and eat it to, gotta take the good with the bad, up to the committee and football department to ensure they recruit to win in current division and be stable in the next division when going up
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Boosh » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:22 pm

I will just get on the bandwagon and agree with everyone here, the promotion relegation system ensures the comps stay as even as possible. Yes Salisbury might have struggled but why do they now get be a strong team in in a weaker division just because they want to? So Div 4 now has a SFL club formerly of Div 2 parachuted into it and Div 3 club that fancies an easier grade.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Nearly Was » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:53 pm

How could you play for a Club that promotes mediocrity. The thrill of being promoted is nearly as good as playing in a GF. And good players always like to try themselves against better opposition. Any player worth his salt wants to play to his optimum level. If the Club doesn't, I wouldn't want to play there.
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Re: 2016 gradings

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:09 pm

Nearly Was wrote:How could you play for a Club that promotes mediocrity. The thrill of being promoted is nearly as good as playing in a GF. And good players always like to try themselves against better opposition. Any player worth his salt wants to play to his optimum level. If the Club doesn't, I wouldn't want to play there.

Or they could promise bucket loads of cash for prospective players to get them out there and not pay them causing a mass exodus and 70 goal beltings for a season to go back down to div 4 and be further away from square one.
I believe that they can only exercise their right to do so once and their committee must see it more financially viable to continue to build their squad before attempting to take the next step.
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