Garry Lyon - serious mental health condition.

[BoundaryRider84]

Any chance The Footy Show may decide to take a more serious look at matches instead of giving them 45 seconds....

That's why I like "Footy teams" I think it's called on Fox Thursday nights.
An hour show that spends about 6 minutes on each game without all the glam and non-football related crap.

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[amber_fluid]

A couple of things from this.

If so many of you like Lyon, at least give him the decency of some time and space to sort out his own issues.

If indeed he has a serious mental illness the attacks on here show how immature society still is in handling these matters, regardless of the catalyst.

Finally, people still watch the footy show? Surely they've worked out who has the smallest dick by now?

Not sure anyone is attacking him about his mental health issues..............
As for rooting his good mates misses behind his back, it's now open slather I say.......... You make ya bed, you lie in it!!!!!

And I don't like Lyon anyway

[Lightning McQueen]

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Thanks mate, that's the one, it's been too long.

[whufc]

A couple of things from this.

If so many of you like Lyon, at least give him the decency of some time and space to sort out his own issues.

If indeed he has a serious mental illness the attacks on here show how immature society still is in handling these matters, regardless of the catalyst.

Finally, people still watch the footy show? Surely they've worked out who has the smallest dick by now?

I agree with that but do we think we now over diagnose mental health illness these days.

Its starting to remind me a lot of ADHD where nearly every second child with behaviour problems is being diagnosed with it.

Just because you sneeze a couple of times doenst mean you have a cold.

I fear that if we start over diagnose all we will do is harm the people who are truly affected by mental illnesses.

This isnt to say Lyon doesn't suffer from mental illness but geez i think his actions are piss poor (as bad as it comes in the brother hood) and he should be feeling a bit sorry for himself right about now.

[Booney]

A couple of things from this.

If so many of you like Lyon, at least give him the decency of some time and space to sort out his own issues.

If indeed he has a serious mental illness the attacks on here show how immature society still is in handling these matters, regardless of the catalyst.

Finally, people still watch the footy show? Surely they've worked out who has the smallest dick by now?

I agree with that but do we think we now over diagnose mental health illness these days.

Its starting to remind me a lot of ADHD where nearly every second child with behaviour problems is being diagnosed with it.

Just because you sneeze a couple of times doenst mean you have a cold.

I fear that if we start over diagnose all we will do is harm the people who are truly affected by mental illnesses.

This isnt to say Lyon doesn't suffer from mental illness but geez i think his actions are piss poor (as bad as it comes in the brother hood) and he should be feeling a bit sorry for himself right about now.

"We" over diagnose? Clinical support, SA Footy style.

[whufc]

A couple of things from this.

If so many of you like Lyon, at least give him the decency of some time and space to sort out his own issues.

If indeed he has a serious mental illness the attacks on here show how immature society still is in handling these matters, regardless of the catalyst.

Finally, people still watch the footy show? Surely they've worked out who has the smallest dick by now?

I agree with that but do we think we now over diagnose mental health illness these days.

Its starting to remind me a lot of ADHD where nearly every second child with behaviour problems is being diagnosed with it.

Just because you sneeze a couple of times doenst mean you have a cold.

I fear that if we start over diagnose all we will do is harm the people who are truly affected by mental illnesses.

This isnt to say Lyon doesn't suffer from mental illness but geez i think his actions are piss poor (as bad as it comes in the brother hood) and he should be feeling a bit sorry for himself right about now.

"We" over diagnose? Clinical support, SA Footy style.

What im saying is it seems to be getting used a fair bit these days as a 'get out clause' whether that be a 'famous' person looking for space (which isnt necessarily a bad thing) or a criminal looking to get less of a punishment in the justice system.

[Grahaml]

Current expert opinion suggests mental health issues are far more prevalent than the clinical diagnoses would indicate. Not sure how you can say that we're over diagnosing. History may tell us the experts are wrong and there's more to it, we all know experts have been wrong once or twice. But they are experts for a reason.

The whole ADD issue seems to be resolving in the manner that several disorders were given the same name, but that most of the time there was a genuine issue. The problem seems to be more in the solution rather than the diagnosis with a lot of kids on medication that was harmful rather than helpful.

[whufc]

Current expert opinion suggests mental health issues are far more prevalent than the clinical diagnoses would indicate. Not sure how you can say that we're over diagnosing. History may tell us the experts are wrong and there's more to it, we all know experts have been wrong once or twice. But they are experts for a reason.

The whole ADD issue seems to be resolving in the manner that several disorders were given the same name, but that most of the time there was a genuine issue. The problem seems to be more in the solution rather than the diagnosis with a lot of kids on medication that was harmful rather than helpful.

Yeah maybe over diagnose wasn't the correct wording but i guess what im getting at is that mental illness seems to be getting used a lot more in cases where people may be looking to 'lower, down play etc their consequences for certain actions'

If i was to go and start sleeping with my mates misses at what point do i go from being some one who 'feels guilty and not great about myself' which is a natural reaction once i realised what a shit act i did to someone who has 'mental illness'.

[bennymacca]

Yeah maybe over diagnose wasn't the correct wording but i guess what im getting at is that mental illness seems to be getting used a lot more in cases where people may be looking to 'lower, down play etc their consequences for certain actions'

If i was to go and start sleeping with my mates misses at what point do i go from being some one who 'feels guilty and not great about myself' as i should feel from doing those actions to someone who has 'mental illness'.

could be the other way round too - person has pre-existing undiagnosed (or unreported in the media) mental health issues, deals with them in inappropriate ways, like banging mate's missus, or going on a bender etc, then we find out about both issues at once, and it looks like one is used as a cover for the other.

[whufc]

Yeah maybe over diagnose wasn't the correct wording but i guess what im getting at is that mental illness seems to be getting used a lot more in cases where people may be looking to 'lower, down play etc their consequences for certain actions'

If i was to go and start sleeping with my mates misses at what point do i go from being some one who 'feels guilty and not great about myself' as i should feel from doing those actions to someone who has 'mental illness'.

could be the other way round too - person has pre-existing undiagnosed (or unreported in the media) mental health issues, deals with them in inappropriate ways, like banging mate's missus, or going on a bender etc, then we find out about both issues at once, and it looks like one is used as a cover for the other.

It very well could be which makes it a complex issue.

Im diagnosed with Bi-polar but have been taught from friends, family and mates that despite of this i cant use it as an excuse for my actions.

In saying that it does explain many things that happened previous to me knowing of my condition yet i feel like i still have to be held accountable for those actions and would never think of washing it off with the old 'i have bi polar'

[bennymacca]

I dont think it can be used as an excuse, but can possibly be used to contextualise the issues.

[whufc]

I dont think it can be used as an excuse, but can possibly be used to contextualise the issues.

Exactly and from the knowledge of discovering how they work the person can understand how they react in certain situations and what trigger points to look for. The next step from that is learning what to do avoid your actions taking over and becoming destructive in your environment.

[Magellan]

Has Gazz got plans to romance Caroline Wilson too?

[marbles]

Woman breaks up from husband

Woman distraught emotionally unstable

Woman is very close friend with premiere gentleman highly articulate huge media profile man, and an already highly entwined relationship exists from over the years

Womans insecurity pokes at her very close long term friend highlights turmoil in her life to him. He as friend becomes concerned it plays on his mind of her state. He feels obligated to attend to her, to check on her

She finds strength in his warmth, she pleeds would it be ok to catch up. They meet, she breaks down in her frailty balling her eyes out. He has no choice but to hold her.

Woman in his arms begins kissing his neck leads to then moves to his lips, he backs off but she refuses and continues. Years of sexual attraction between the 2 finds an outlet to entwine and enlope. Raging lust causes them to cross the moral line

Woman now has her claws in the forbidden fruit, she seduces and reels him in for more. Desire leads them both to wanting more and more despite knowing it has to stop. More and more encounters occur

Woman got her prey, man ends up in mental home due to sheer anxiety and guilt after being seduced and over powered by a lusting woman he has secretly adored for many many years haha

Maybe she is seeking vengence and hurting billy in the best possible way?

Gary is a victim of evil woman haha

[bennymacca]

sounds like a Mills & Booney novel

[Magellan]

sounds like a Mills & Booney novel

Or "Fatal Attraction". Lock up your bunnies!!

[Bounce of the ball]

To say someone is hiding behind a mental health issue is dumb and ignorant. This mentality is quite weak and considering all the publicity and education surrounding this issue you would think people would be smart enough to realise the potential consequences.

[whufc]

To say someone is hiding behind a mental health issue is dumb and ignorant. This mentality is quite weak and considering all the publicity and education surrounding this issue you would think people would be smart enough to realise the potential consequences.

The problem is people see incidents like the Cy Walsh one and feel that there is a 'stigma' surrounding hiding behind mental illness to receive compassion etc etc. (im not trying to compare what Lyon did to what Cy did at any level)

[Bounce of the ball]

Hiding behind it is a very strange and stupid comment. Might wish to research it and even read a bit about things. A very low individual would suggest that.

[whufc]

Hiding behind it is a very strange and stupid comment. Might wish to research it and even read a bit about things. A very low individual would suggest that.

Im not saying he is but it is easy how to see how people may come to that conclusion in that day and age.

I'll ask you 'at what point does feeling guilty and unhappy about the way you acted go from being a natural consequence of an action to becoming mental illness'