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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:30 am

Pyne saying today that an early election is still on the table as the senate is not playing ball at the moment on a few issues.

The problem is you threaten and then threaten and then cast aside the idea of an early election. Its a flat threat, they dont have the balls to pull the trigger.

If they are fair dinkim right now. Then pull the trigger and lets go to the polls. Sometimes you just have to go through with you threat to make others believe your the real deal.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Ruben Carter » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:31 pm

stan wrote:Pyne saying today that an early election is still on the table as the senate is not playing ball at the moment on a few issues.

The problem is you threaten and then threaten and then cast aside the idea of an early election. Its a flat threat, they dont have the balls to pull the trigger.

If they are fair dinkim right now. Then pull the trigger and lets go to the polls. Sometimes you just have to go through with you threat to make others believe your the real deal.

One major issue for the Libs will be - a full Senate election doesn't necessarily mean a more favourable outcome for them. They need legislative change to eliminate minor parties before they'd want a new Senate election IMO.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:07 am

Ruben Carter wrote:
stan wrote:Pyne saying today that an early election is still on the table as the senate is not playing ball at the moment on a few issues.

The problem is you threaten and then threaten and then cast aside the idea of an early election. Its a flat threat, they dont have the balls to pull the trigger.

If they are fair dinkim right now. Then pull the trigger and lets go to the polls. Sometimes you just have to go through with you threat to make others believe your the real deal.

One major issue for the Libs will be - a full Senate election doesn't necessarily mean a more favourable outcome for them. They need legislative change to eliminate minor parties before they'd want a new Senate election IMO.

In terms of minor parties who is left. Mostly just a bunch of independents now and the Greens of course.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:55 am

New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:25 am

stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Booney » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:32 am

bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten


Unless they knife him and throw up Plibersek, Wong or Bowen at the last minute.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:02 pm

bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten

Nah mate thats part of what I was saying. Although its 50/50 in the polls its 50/21 in terms of preferred PM.

Ilbasucally the county is split but based on that I think the Libs would get over the line simply on the Shorten factor.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:15 pm

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten


Unless they knife him and throw up Plibersek, Wong or Bowen at the last minute.


Wong would get crucified
I would think Albo or Bowen are next in line
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Gozu » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:36 pm

The problem with Penny Wong is she just might win and the Labor Right couldn't handle that.

I like Albo but don't think he's leadership material. He's an attack dog, Labor's Tony Abbott.

Anyone see Stan Grant's Press Club address? I don't care what party he would represent just give him the keys and make him PM I haven't seen a more powerful & impressive speaker since Keating.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:59 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten


Unless they knife him and throw up Plibersek, Wong or Bowen at the last minute.


Wong would get crucified
I would think Albo or Bowen are next in line

Would have thought Albo was there man. Surely they have to make a change soon. Shorten will be the point of difference and the deciding factor at the next election.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:21 am

Gozu wrote:The problem with Penny Wong is she just might win and the Labor Right couldn't handle that.

I like Albo but don't think he's leadership material. He's an attack dog, Labor's Tony Abbott.

Anyone see Stan Grant's Press Club address? I don't care what party he would represent just give him the keys and make him PM I haven't seen a more powerful & impressive speaker since Keating.


I'm not sure 95% of Australians could handle it
Agree with you on the rest
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Gozu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:18 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Gozu wrote:The problem with Penny Wong is she just might win and the Labor Right couldn't handle that.

I like Albo but don't think he's leadership material. He's an attack dog, Labor's Tony Abbott.

Anyone see Stan Grant's Press Club address? I don't care what party he would represent just give him the keys and make him PM I haven't seen a more powerful & impressive speaker since Keating.


I'm not sure 95% of Australians could handle it
Agree with you on the rest


Why because she's a gay Asian woman? I think most would be comfortable with her now after all this time she's a class act and one of Labor's better performers.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:46 am

Gozu wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Gozu wrote:The problem with Penny Wong is she just might win and the Labor Right couldn't handle that.

I like Albo but don't think he's leadership material. He's an attack dog, Labor's Tony Abbott.

Anyone see Stan Grant's Press Club address? I don't care what party he would represent just give him the keys and make him PM I haven't seen a more powerful & impressive speaker since Keating.


I'm not sure 95% of Australians could handle it
Agree with you on the rest


Why because she's a gay Asian woman? I think most would be comfortable with her now after all this time she's a class act and one of Labor's better performers.


What I expected.....
No, because she's not a class act - far from it
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:14 am

So Lib people a few articles in the papers this morning asking the question Was the coup worth it?

Perhaps if Shorten wasnt the opposition leader things may well be worse. But whilst the polls are showing a 50/50 between libs and labor, the preferred PM poll was 50/21 in favour of Turnball over Shorten.

Hence the question with all thats going on, was the coup worth it?
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:15 am

stan wrote:So Lib people a few articles in the papers this morning asking the question Was the coup worth it?

Perhaps if Shorten wasnt the opposition leader things may well be worse. But whilst the polls are showing a 50/50 between libs and labor, the preferred PM poll was 50/21 in favour of Turnball over Shorten.

Hence the question with all thats going on, was the coup worth it?


Yes, Abbott is a twat
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:23 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:So Lib people a few articles in the papers this morning asking the question Was the coup worth it?

Perhaps if Shorten wasnt the opposition leader things may well be worse. But whilst the polls are showing a 50/50 between libs and labor, the preferred PM poll was 50/21 in favour of Turnball over Shorten.

Hence the question with all thats going on, was the coup worth it?


Yes, Abbott is a twat

Ok come on, looking at the numbers is there more you can add mate?
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:08 pm

stan wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:So Lib people a few articles in the papers this morning asking the question Was the coup worth it?

Perhaps if Shorten wasnt the opposition leader things may well be worse. But whilst the polls are showing a 50/50 between libs and labor, the preferred PM poll was 50/21 in favour of Turnball over Shorten.

Hence the question with all thats going on, was the coup worth it?


Yes, Abbott is a twat

Ok come on, looking at the numbers is there more you can add mate?


I thought that was quite succinct!
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Psyber » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:05 pm

stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten

Nah mate thats part of what I was saying. Although its 50/50 in the polls its 50/21 in terms of preferred PM.

Ilbasucally the county is split but based on that I think the Libs would get over the line simply on the Shorten factor.


I think it may all change between now and any election and be meaningless at present.
Wong and Plibersek may appeal to the ALP devotees but Albo would have more appeal to the swinging voters, just as Turnbull has.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:09 pm

Psyber wrote:
stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:New polls just in. Turball only 50% for preferred PM......but Shorten at 21% lol.

I know its only a poll but still gives you bit of a laugh.


seems like the honeymoon period is over though, 50/50 two party preferred.

I reckon what might save Turnbull is the fact that he only has to go up against Shorten

Nah mate thats part of what I was saying. Although its 50/50 in the polls its 50/21 in terms of preferred PM.

Ilbasucally the county is split but based on that I think the Libs would get over the line simply on the Shorten factor.


I think it may all change between now and any election and be meaningless at present.
Wong and Plibersek may appeal to the ALP devotees but Albo would have more appeal to the swinging voters, just as Turnbull has.


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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:30 pm

Say what you want about Shorten's bland persona, but his retort at that nutjob Bernadi this morning was bloody epic.
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