Grade Cricket

[Shark_Hunter]

Despite all the rumours and innuendo I personally don't hold anything against university. Like every club I'm sure they are just doing their best to ensure they also maintain their history as a strong and well managed club for many years to come. Every club will look out for its own best interests first.

But what did occur to me is that Uni are almost certainly they only club that would survive this threat of relegation and cut off funding and would likely drop back into ATCA, or possibly still maintain teams in 2nd grade and lower, and remain a vibrant and successful club for many years to come.

Sure they would lose some prestige of playing in the 1st Grade, but they will maintain their history, club culture and records for ever. Who knows, if another club falls over some years in the future, Uni would be well placed to immediately set back up to fill the gap.

I believe that for any other club this action will be an absolute death kneel with little chance of survival in the short or long term. Clearly this should be carefully considered when threatening to consign a club of 160 (or 120) years to history with a stroke of a pen by people that have been in the room for 5 minutes.

[oyster]

The good thing is that the Parliamentary enquiry headed by Paul Caica which will have people from both sides of parliament sitting, will really open up a can of worms. They will force the SACA to publish their findings and show just cause and give accurate demographics about why they have targeted 3 western suburbs clubs. When the SACA publish these findings, I think you will find a swift change of tact. It will be interesting to see if one person more leaves the SACA board what will happen. One less and they have no rights to govern or act as a board is what I'm told. Perhaps even a vote of no confidence could be looming large. West Torrens and Port will still be playing next season. Bet on it.

[Aerie]

Despite all the rumours and innuendo I personally don't hold anything against university. Like every club I'm sure they are just doing their best to ensure they also maintain their history as a strong and well managed club for many years to come. Every club will look out for its own best interests first.

But what did occur to me is that Uni are almost certainly they only club that would survive this threat of relegation and cut off funding and would likely drop back into ATCA, or possibly still maintain teams in 2nd grade and lower, and remain a vibrant and successful club for many years to come.

Sure they would lose some prestige of playing in the 1st Grade, but they will maintain their history, club culture and records for ever. Who knows, if another club falls over some years in the future, Uni would be well placed to immediately set back up to fill the gap.

I believe that for any other club this action will be an absolute death kneel with little chance of survival in the short or long term. Clearly this should be carefully considered when threatening to consign a club of 160 (or 120) years to history with a stroke of a pen by people that have been in the room for 5 minutes.

Agree with a lot of that. I would say though, that those that make it through to the SACA board should be looking out for the best interests of South Australian cricket, not the University Cricket Club.

[heater31]

The good thing is that the Parliamentary enquiry headed by Paul Caica which will have people from both sides of parliament sitting, will really open up a can of worms. They will force the SACA to publish their findings and show just cause and give accurate demographics about why they have targeted 3 western suburbs clubs. When the SACA publish these findings, I think you will find a swift change of tact. It will be interesting to see if one person more leaves the SACA board what will happen. One less and they have no rights to govern or act as a board is what I'm told. Perhaps even a vote of no confidence could be looming large. West Torrens and Port will still be playing next season. Bet on it.

Does Caica have the numbers for a motion to succeed? Doubt there would be enough public interest into the dealings of a Sports Association.....


What does the SACA constitution say about a quorum? Believe that has been discussions about getting replacements.


How do West Torrens and Port plan to address SACA's concerns with demographics and the long term future of both clubs? I don't believe Port have enough numbers to field an Under 16 White team again next season from what I'm told.

[Aerie]

The good thing is that the Parliamentary enquiry headed by Paul Caica which will have people from both sides of parliament sitting, will really open up a can of worms. They will force the SACA to publish their findings and show just cause and give accurate demographics about why they have targeted 3 western suburbs clubs. When the SACA publish these findings, I think you will find a swift change of tact. It will be interesting to see if one person more leaves the SACA board what will happen. One less and they have no rights to govern or act as a board is what I'm told. Perhaps even a vote of no confidence could be looming large. West Torrens and Port will still be playing next season. Bet on it.

Does Caica have the numbers for a motion to succeed? Doubt there would be enough public interest into the dealings of a Sports Association.....


What does the SACA constitution say about a quorum? Believe that has been discussions about getting replacements.


How do West Torrens and Port plan to address SACA's concerns with demographics and the long term future of both clubs? I don't believe Port have enough numbers to field an Under 16 White team again next season from what I'm told.

How would Adelaide address them?

[daysofourlives]

Pretty sure the SACA board is acting in the best interests of South Australian cricket, reduction in teams is whats required.

You are clutching at straws if you think there's some sort of other agenda. Think most agree there needs to be a reduction, just not "my" club. Well it has to be someones club.

Ive said before, why doesnt SACA swallow up the ATCA and put it all under the same banner with 8 or 10 teams in Div and promotion/relegation, every one keeps their identity and has the added bonus of ATCA cricket not being as attractive to guys leaving grade cricket

[bulldogproud2]

The good thing is that the Parliamentary enquiry headed by Paul Caica which will have people from both sides of parliament sitting, will really open up a can of worms. They will force the SACA to publish their findings and show just cause and give accurate demographics about why they have targeted 3 western suburbs clubs. When the SACA publish these findings, I think you will find a swift change of tact. It will be interesting to see if one person more leaves the SACA board what will happen. One less and they have no rights to govern or act as a board is what I'm told. Perhaps even a vote of no confidence could be looming large. West Torrens and Port will still be playing next season. Bet on it.

Does Caica have the numbers for a motion to succeed? Doubt there would be enough public interest into the dealings of a Sports Association.....


What does the SACA constitution say about a quorum? Believe that has been discussions about getting replacements.


How do West Torrens and Port plan to address SACA's concerns with demographics and the long term future of both clubs? I don't believe Port have enough numbers to field an Under 16 White team again next season from what I'm told.

Demographically, West Torrens seem fine. We are very well off for juniors. This is somewhat backed up by 19 premierships in junior grades in the last 15 years, with the next best club having won only 12. We also have more junior teams in SACA competitions than any other club, with an Under 13 team playing in a SACA-run competition.
Prior to the move to Henley we were in big trouble with juniors but now we are in a position where we have to turn some away unfortunately.

Cheers

[backoftheroom]

9 overs, 1 maiden and figures of 0-47 so far for the SACA part time spinner (4pm day 4)

90 overs, 13 maidens and match figures of 11-230 for the Vic spinners.

Who in their right mind plays 4 quicks on the flattest Glenelg pitch ever seen?

[hawks21]

9 overs, 1 maiden and figures of 0-47 so far for the SACA part time spinner (4pm day 4)

90 overs, 13 maidens and match figures of 11-230 for the Vic spinners.

Who in their right mind plays 4 quicks on the flattest Glenelg pitch ever seen?

A team that’s front line spinner is in India and the backup spinner doesn’t spin the ball much more than Trav. Zampa would have played if he was available. In saying that if Richardson and Zampa were both available we probs play 4 quicks again. Quicks have done it for us all year.

IMO this game wasn't lost due to not playing a front line spinner, it was lost due to our inability to convert starts into hundreds like our more experienced opponents.

[The Bedge]

IMO this game wasn't lost due to not playing a front line spinner, it was lost due to our inability to convert starts into hundreds like our more experienced opponents.

Correct, and our inability to build consecutive partnerships, instead losing wickets in bunches.

[Computer Crashed]

IMO this game wasn't lost due to not playing a front line spinner, it was lost due to our inability to convert starts into hundreds like our more experienced opponents.

Correct, and our inability to build consecutive partnerships, instead losing wickets in bunches.

Well it certainly didn't help not playing a spinner.
Boring ole medium pacers for two innings.

[Magic Johnson]

With all the talk about not playing a specialist spinner in the shield final, how many clubs actually have promising spinners coming through the grades?.....Any young "attacking" spinners on the horizon?

[C Horse]

With all the talk about not playing a specialist spinner in the shield final, how many clubs actually have promising spinners coming through the grades?.....Any young "attacking" spinners on the horizon?

Heaps

Akash Patel at Glenelg - leggie
Michael Cormack at Adelaide - offie
Ziggy Kuleska at Sturt - Chinaman
Joel Logan at Uni - leggie
Oliver McDowell at Woodville - leggie

Not sure about Ziggy but the rest of those would be under 21. Cormack would have toured with Aust 19s if they had gone to World Cup

[Footy Smart]

With all the talk about not playing a specialist spinner in the shield final, how many clubs actually have promising spinners coming through the grades?.....Any young "attacking" spinners on the horizon?

Heaps

Akash Patel at Glenelg - leggie
Michael Cormack at Adelaide - offie
Ziggy Kuleska at Sturt - Chinaman
Joel Logan at Uni - leggie
Oliver McDowell at Woodville - leggie

Not sure about Ziggy but the rest of those would be under 21. Cormack would have toured with Aust 19s if they had gone to World Cup

Loyd Pope from kensies. 16yo leggie played in their A grade semi side. Plenty to offer

[maxi]

With all the talk about not playing a specialist spinner in the shield final, how many clubs actually have promising spinners coming through the grades?.....Any young "attacking" spinners on the horizon?

Heaps

Akash Patel at Glenelg - leggie
Michael Cormack at Adelaide - offie
Ziggy Kuleska at Sturt - Chinaman
Joel Logan at Uni - leggie
Oliver McDowell at Woodville - leggie

Not sure about Ziggy but the rest of those would be under 21. Cormack would have toured with Aust 19s if they had gone to World Cup

Loyd Pope from kensies. 16yo leggie played in their A grade semi side. Plenty to offer

Nottle bowls pretty well as does Joraslafsky and Blunden all these guys need time and lots of bowling. Vics had 2 experienced campaigners we had a kid who they thought wasnt up to it. Would have been worth a punt in my opinion

[Magic Johnson]

Good to hear! hopefully majority of them are still going around in 10 years time when spinners are in their prime. If West Torrens is still around next year, going to be hard to replace Dan Cullen....quality spinners at that age are invaluable

[Tony Clifton]

Tom O'Connell from Sturt (leggie) looks a good prospect too. Similar age to Pope.

[The Bedge]

Tyrell Sinclair (TTG) bowls handy left arm orthies, was the leading wicket taking in the 17's squad last year I think? Still has another year of 17's as well?

[Aerie]

Good to hear! hopefully majority of them are still going around in 10 years time when spinners are in their prime. If West Torrens is still around next year, going to be hard to replace Dan Cullen....quality spinners at that age are invaluable

Always hard to replace quality and experience, however Daniel Drew has played alongside Cullen for the past two seasons in 1st Grade. Also an offie. Has developed his batting nicely in the middle order also. Will take over as number one spinner now.

[Tony Clifton]

Simon Roberts won the Bradman Medal bowling fast leggies. Is a bit older - 32 I think. Has been around the Redbacks squad before as a batter. Not sure if they'd look at him even though spinners often take longer. He certainly is difficult to score off. Maybe shorter form cricket if Zampa is away.