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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Dutchy » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:37 pm

rock wrote:
Corona Man wrote:^ spot on Rock.... A 4 team comp in Div 1 really would be the ducks nuts!


Thats the way it looks in its current environment CM. I don't have a lot of answers but perhaps capping junior teams might help. I've heard it is quite effective in other leagues. It will stop mass domination of these larger clubs. I know something needs to be done soon.


Effective in sending kids to Basketball and Soccer?
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Ye Olde Place Kick » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:12 pm

cracka wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
cracka wrote:
wazzal77 wrote:Apart from Bridgewater Callington (which geographically seems an odd combination, but I suppose so does Mt Torrens and Mt Pleasant with Birdwood in the middle ?) When was the last merger of clubs in the Hills? Is there not the opportunity to bring two towns together? Maccie/Meadows, Kangarilla-ironbank, Gum/Birdwood? I read an article on Eudunda Robertstown merger a while back and they are two dying towns but seem pretty competitive against the thriving Clare area? Would that not work in the Hills? Or is it fear of lost identity and pride getting in the way?

I'm thinking the last real merger (Uraidla/Eastern Ranges was more of a takeover) before Torrens Valley was Lenswood Ranges & Ashton forming Eastern Ranges in the 80's. Before that I reckon it was Heathfield/Aldgate United & Stirling to form Mt Lofty???


The Lenswood/Ashton merge was a long time ago. I recall playing footy at both those grounds, against the then local teams. The fog was always an issue at Ashton. Recall playing Eastern Ranges at Lenswood one day. Our mob kicked 40 goals, and the locals kicked about 25.... high scoring ground!

What year was the merger Cracka?

I think it was 83 when all clubs (14 or 15) played in 1 big comp. Pretty sure that was the least amount of clubs in the HFL in any 1 season.

For anyone interested the most was in 1972 with 26 clubs having an A and/or B grade plus Palmer had just a B grade.

I can remember in Mini colts playing Lenswood Ranges at Lenswood & then later playing against Eastern Ranges at both Ashton & Lenswood. Ashton had pretty good facilities from what I remember, think its now a soccer club using it.


Yes it was 83 for Ashton/Lenswood
83 was the only year in HFL history that all teams played in the one div. Uraidla, Hahndorf, Lobethal, Mt Barker, Onka Valley, Echunga, Pleasant Valley, Mt Torrens/Cambrai, Kersbrook, Gumeracha, Birdwood, Eastern Rangers, Nairne/Bremer, Bridgewater, Macclesfield. 15 in total
other mergers not mentioned Mt Torrens/Cambrai in 75 to 86, Woodside Army/Nairne paired up in 77&78 with Army playing A's and Nairne B's, Nairne/Bremer in 79 and Heathfield Aldgate United/Stirling end of 78 to form Mt Lofty.
yes 27 clubs in 72-3 when the only time the league ran 4 zones.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Corona Man » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:18 pm

1983... I played that year when it was all one div... 33 years ago... Where has that time gone!
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby rock » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:08 am

Dutchy wrote:
rock wrote:
Corona Man wrote:^ spot on Rock.... A 4 team comp in Div 1 really would be the ducks nuts!


Thats the way it looks in its current environment CM. I don't have a lot of answers but perhaps capping junior teams might help. I've heard it is quite effective in other leagues. It will stop mass domination of these larger clubs. I know something needs to be done soon.


Effective in sending kids to Basketball and Soccer?


Got any better ideas? Kids are already going to those sports in favour of footy. Wonder why that is!
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby rock » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:16 am

cracka wrote:
rock wrote:
Corona Man wrote:^ spot on Rock.... A 4 team comp in Div 1 really would be the ducks nuts!


Thats the way it looks in its current environment CM. I don't have a lot of answers but perhaps capping junior teams might help. I've heard it is quite effective in other leagues. It will stop mass domination of these larger clubs. I know something needs to be done soon.

What country footy leagues cap junior numbers.


It happens in some of the Leagues in Victoria, not sure if any are capped in SA.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Grumpy Old B » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:13 am

Corona Man wrote:1983... I played that year when it was all one div... 33 years ago... Where has that time gone!

Absolutely Corona Man. We would have crossed paths that year as I was also running around then. I wonder what Loby did with their trophy they got for finishing 5th LOL This weeks tips. I am going for consistence's this week
Uri's by 8 Goals over Lofty
Blackwood by 8 G over Ironbank
TV by 8 goals over Echunga
Loby by 8 G over the Dogs
Hahndorf by 8 G over The Roo's

enjoy your ANZAC weekend and barrack loud for your team 8)
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Dutchy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:59 am

rock wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
rock wrote:
Corona Man wrote:^ spot on Rock.... A 4 team comp in Div 1 really would be the ducks nuts!


Thats the way it looks in its current environment CM. I don't have a lot of answers but perhaps capping junior teams might help. I've heard it is quite effective in other leagues. It will stop mass domination of these larger clubs. I know something needs to be done soon.


Effective in sending kids to Basketball and Soccer?


Got any better ideas? Kids are already going to those sports in favour of footy. Wonder why that is!


Kids want to play with their mates.

Blackwood cap their juniors, not sure if Ironbank get any overflow? Flaggy certainly do so not sure how that helps the HFL.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Keefy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:14 am

Dutchy wrote:
rock wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
rock wrote:[quote="Corona Man"]^ spot on Rock.... A 4 team comp in Div 1 really would be the ducks nuts!


Thats the way it looks in its current environment CM. I don't have a lot of answers but perhaps capping junior teams might help. I've heard it is quite effective in other leagues. It will stop mass domination of these larger clubs. I know something needs to be done soon.


Effective in sending kids to Basketball and Soccer?


Got any better ideas? Kids are already going to those sports in favour of footy. Wonder why that is!


Kids want to play with their mates.

Blackwood cap their juniors, not sure if Ironbank get any overflow? Flaggy certainly do so not sure how that helps the HFL.[/quote]

Don't think we have picked up any extras from Blackwood at all. We do have a couple that play for Flaggy in the Sunday comp
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Dutchy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:16 pm

yeah am aware of a couple that play for both clubs, be interesting if they get picked for us on a Saturday what they will do.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Archer11 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:40 pm

Dutchy wrote:yeah am aware of a couple that play for both clubs, be interesting if they get picked for us on a Saturday what they will do.


That would be very interesting indeed? It would also be a great test for the players club loyalty or finals time etc.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby cracka » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:42 pm

Dutchy wrote:yeah am aware of a couple that play for both clubs, be interesting if they get picked for us on a Saturday what they will do.

Are SFL kids allowed to play in both the Saturday & Sunday comps. I thought it was one or the other.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby batmanbegins » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:45 pm

Round 3 is here and Anzac weekend always throws up some cracking games;

Lofty V Uraidla- Uraidla scrapped over the line against echunga last week and don't appear to have hit their straps just yet. Lofty on the other hand were given a bit of a lesson by a strong Blackwood side. Lofty give 100% effort every week but lack the quality of most sides at the minute, especially with miles not back yet. Uri's are an experienced outfit that just know how to win games. Down will be hard to stop but Oheril is a quality ruckman that will make him work extremely hard. Lofty still rely heavily on Burch and Nielsen but blokes like Van Paridon, Clements and Radbone are starting to step up. If lofty can match Uris on the inside there a chance as they have the ability to out run them on the outside but unfortunately Uris midfield is a bit to strong and deep so I can't see lofty getting on top. Uris to win by 6 goals in a low scoring game.

Blackwood V Ironbank- The woods are 2 and 0 for the first time in a few years and looking good, where as the thunderers were demolished by the reigning premier last week. Anderson is a huge pick up for the woods and the inclusion of Hopton, Watchman, Atkinson and Sporn on a regular basis adds to their quality. The bankers lack size especially with Bottin and now Munn out for a considerable time so containing Atkinson in the ruck may be difficult. Herbert moving forward looks like a good move as he has kicked 9 goals in 2 weeks now and would like his chances of more Saturday against a small Ironbank defence. If Ironbank stand a chance their midfield must step up and the return of Baker will help but they have.a big ask against the quality of Edwards, Djiskman and Minuzzo. Unfortunately the depth of Blackwood appears to be much to strong with their inclusions for the bankers and they will win by 7 goals.

Echunga v TV- Echunga would be ruing a missed chance last week after a 2 point loss. TV on the other hand had a great win against the Tigers. The return of Pratt for TV is massive as it allows O'Sullivan to play more of an outside game which gives him time and space to deliver to big Boras. Echunga have plenty of quality of midfielders led by Edwards and Lindsay but they need Jennings back this week to be any chance of a win as he is a star in the midfield. Watchel should dominate the ruck as Echunga are missing Cranna immensely but TV must be strong with their pressure as there in better running team in the comp then Echunga. I'm going to for a bit of an upset and choose Echunga at home on a big deck by 2 points as they are suited better to the big decks.

Lobethal V Onkas- Onkas have been hugely competitive against the 2 best teams in the comp in my opinion and should be pleased by their improvement, where as lobe had a cracking win one week only to lose to TV last week but the small grounds don't particularly suit them. Unfortunately for the Dogs they lost skipper Tanner for the year which adds to a long list of outs including Duck, Hausler and Heiser. Lobe's midfield is terrific led by the usual suspects but it's nice to see young locals like Weeks starting to step up which is what they need to take it to the next level. The dogs have got the fantastic inclusion of O'brien who by all accounts is dominating and then add the return of Green there midfield is looking particularly strong, which helps Leonard have a chance to kick some more goals. Unfortunately for the dogs they may just lack the depth at the minute with their injuries to win this game and Lobe have a quality forward line with Wills, Skinner and Fisher presuming he's back. So in saying that Lobe to win by 5 goals after kicking away late.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Corona Man » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:56 pm

Echunga B grade scored today... Red tins all round!
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby wazzal77 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:14 pm

This weeks tips, still searching for that perfect score, I tipped the Roos over Hahndorf - I was 16 points off but from the right up inthe courier sounds like Hahndorf had control and kicked into gear when they needed to...

Echunga v Onkas - wow this could be a good one, at Balhannah... would like to see Onkas get a win, but not certain they can do it - Echunga by 3 goal
Hahndorf v Lobey - would have to be game of the round.. Im going with Hahndorf by 3 goal
Torrens Valley v Mt Lofty - Cant go past TValley in this one, by 6 goal
Ironbank v Mt Barker - Gee Ironbank have bottomed out, 3 goals last week.... Mt Barker by plenty - say 8 goal
Uraidla v Blackwood - Maybe this should be game of the round... ?! If blackwood get over Uraidla they are the real deal, But Uraidla know how to lock teams down. I think Blackwood might be better than I think so picking them by 3 goals.

Not confident of 5/5 ... theres some 50/50 games this week..
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Barkeroo » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:19 pm

Yeah tricky round for tipping thats for sure.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby batmanbegins » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:13 pm

wazzal77 wrote:This weeks tips, still searching for that perfect score, I tipped the Roos over Hahndorf - I was 16 points off but from the right up inthe courier sounds like Hahndorf had control and kicked into gear when they needed to...

Echunga v Onkas - wow this could be a good one, at Balhannah... would like to see Onkas get a win, but not certain they can do it - Echunga by 3 goal
Hahndorf v Lobey - would have to be game of the round.. Im going with Hahndorf by 3 goal
Torrens Valley v Mt Lofty - Cant go past TValley in this one, by 6 goal
Ironbank v Mt Barker - Gee Ironbank have bottomed out, 3 goals last week.... Mt Barker by plenty - say 8 goal
Uraidla v Blackwood - Maybe this should be game of the round... ?! If blackwood get over Uraidla they are the real deal, But Uraidla know how to lock teams down. I think Blackwood might be better than I think so picking them by 3 goals.

Not confident of 5/5 ... theres some 50/50 games this week..


Agreed some tricky games this week.

Echunga v Onkas- the Dee's have let two games go after leading at 3 quarter time and lost the other one by 2 points which shows there almost there but maybe their fitness isn't particularly good. Onkas were poor last week and would be hoping to respond. I think the Dee's have to much class around the ground, with Lindsay, Aish, Jennings and Guy in good form it will be hard for doggies to contain them. For the dogs to much is on O'brien at the moment and others must help him for them to be a chance. Echunga by 5 goals but if Onkas keep it close till the last quarter they would fancy their chances in running over the Dee's.

Hahndorf V Lobe- The dorf had a close win last week against a very good Barker side, while lobe pumped Onkas with Alex wills kicking a lazy 10. If Matt Roberts returns this week he will dominate in the ruck and give first use to Matsen, Paul, Jaensch and Leake which will cause all sorts of trouble for the lobe midfield but luckily they have plenty of quality in there. They will need to be at there best to be a chance though. Wills will have a tougher challenge this week with purling down back and then there is the issue of stopping Hourigan which is fairly impossible. Hahndorf will be much to good and win by 8 goals.

TV V Lofty- TV had a nice come from behind win last week and the Devs unfortunately appear to be in for a long year after starting 0-3. Lofty lack depth at the minute and unless Burch, Nielsen, Clement and van Paridon dominate they are in big trouble again this week. TV have plenty of quality and young guys like Walkley, Hill and Waterman are stepping up which adds to their quality. Pratt has been a big inclusion and expect him to dominate again this week which will allow big Boras to snag himself a bag. TV comfortably at home by 7 goals.

Ironbank V Barker- Barker had a very competitive loss to the flag favourites last week while the Bankers were embarrassed by the Woods in an insipid display of football. Giles coming of a best on will enjoy playing against a team that lacks a genuine ruckman which help give silver service to Hughes, Block and Pope. One bit of good news for the bankers is the return of the skipper Muriden this week but this is offset by a few key losses for the year which will test the depth once again. The pressure was non existent for the bankers and the one thing they must bring is some intensity around the ball and some defensive running by the midfielders. However even they bring that Barker will have to much class around the ground to win by 7 goals.

Uraidla V Blackwood- Game of the round in my opinion and having seen Blackwood last week albeit it against week opposition they do appear to much improved. Uris had a nice easy win over lofty also. The woods midfield is deep with Edwards, Anderson, Djiskman, Bricknel and Minuzzo running though their at times and Atkinson is a quality ruckman who can take it up to Down. If he can get on top of down then Uris will have big trouble containing the Woods. Uraidla will want to keep this game in tight at they don't have the ability to run with the Woods but they are the best team at keeping it low scoring due to their fantastic pressure and defensive structure led by the coach Ivens. I think Blackwood will be a bit to good for the Dee's and will win by 2 goals.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby footytragic001971 » Sun May 01, 2016 12:27 pm

so after four rounds do we see any trends???
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby BoundaryRider84 » Sun May 01, 2016 12:54 pm

How Jesse O'Brien going out at Onkas?
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby batmanbegins » Sun May 01, 2016 1:45 pm

footytragic001971 wrote:so after four rounds do we see any trends???


Hahndorf as expected the side to beat. Mt Barker would appear to be the second side, with Uri's, Blackwood, TV and Lobethal all battling it out for the other 3 spots in the finals. Echunga are comfortably the 7th side and are hugely competitive but some close losses have hurt them early and the bottom 3 appear to a bit off the rest.

BoundaryRider84 wrote:How Jesse O'Brien going out at Onkas?


Looks to be dominating with 3 best ons and a second best in 4 weeks.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby wazzal77 » Mon May 02, 2016 12:12 pm

5/5 still eludes me.... this time Blackwood letting me down. Wow the scoring shots of Uraidla to them gives an indication of how big a potential margin it could have been..

This weeks another week though, so here goes:

Mt Lofty vs Onkas - battle for wooden spoon already? Onkas seem to be pushing more sides this year, so am going for them by 2 goal
Blackwood vs Torrens Valley - both these teams in good form, appear to be bound for finals even at this early stage of the season. Blackwood on the home deck by 3 goal.
Lobethal vs Mt Barker - Mt Barker did enough to win last week, and Lobethal missed out against Hahndorf by a suprising margin. Mt Barker by 2 goal in what should be a cracker game
Ironbank vs Uraidla - Cant go past Uraidla - Ironbank arent performing at all very well, hope they put up a fight and its close, Uraidla by 5 goal
Echunga vs Hahndorf - Echunga snuck home and Hahndorf blew Lobethal away last week. Will a night game make a difference? I dont think so, Hahndorf by 5 goal.
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