Port Adelaide 2016

[bennymacca]

Ryder, Monfries, White, Carlile, Lobbe, Schulz, Hombsch, Jonas. 8. 8 missing. Throw in Howard, make it 9.

These guys offer depth but how many are in the top 10 players at your club?

Ryder would be

Schulz probably past it due to injuries

Hombsch is a big out too.

Probably 2 of those 9 would really hurt the team.

Not sure they are going to turn you into a finals team.

It's more the output of your top guys. Wingard has turned it around but the rest of the mids aren't even close to having career best seasons. Compare the midfield to a few years ago. Same blokes but the output isn't the same.

[Booney]

We have all said Hinkley will coach for at least the next or two.

The one I would like to mention (sorry Booney) is Voss, since coaching wherever he has been there has been little or no success

Agree Stan, im not trolling (if that was direected at me Booney)

No, it wasn't.

Agreed, Voss hasn't had any success at any of his coaching roles.

[Dogwatcher]

Booney, need a beer yet, mate?

[Booney]

Ryder, Monfries, White, Carlile, Lobbe, Schulz, Hombsch, Jonas. 8. 8 missing. Throw in Howard, make it 9.

These guys offer depth but how many are in the top 10 players at your club?

Ryder would be

Schulz probably past it due to injuries

Hombsch is a big out too.

Probably 2 of those 9 would really hurt the team.

Not sure they are going to turn you into a finals team.

It's more the output of your top guys. Wingard has turned it around but the rest of the mids aren't even close to having career best seasons. Compare the midfield to a few years ago. Same blokes but the output isn't the same.

It's not about being top 10, it's about the squad applying pressure to the first 22 to make them earn a spot every week, with the list that depleted (and throw in a couple of first year rookies on the list) you haven't got pressure from below.

On your list, Schulz would have given us the ability to ruck Dixon more this year, means Trengove is back. So his spot might not be a 60 goal a year forward, but it would give us flexibility.

Hombsch is crucial to our back half ( see above ) and with him and Trengove back there it would be a massive difference.

White and Monfries would be in the side at the expense of Neade and Young at the start of the year, Young has taken his chances and made the spot his, so there'd be 3 blokes fighting for one spot.

Carlile is done, the game passed him by when he did his back/hip last year. He had almost no preseason because of that. He's done.

Jonas and Lobbe, as noted above, fit and in form make Ryder/Dixon and Hombsch/Austin earn their spots in the ruck and back half.

Adelaide the perfect example at the moment, Ellis-Yoleman and Grigg aren't even close to getting a game, but they're making sure Douglas pulls out all his tricks to stay in the side.

[Booney]

Booney, need a beer yet, mate?

No, but I wouldn't mind being held under some ice water.

[Dogwatcher]

Booney, need a beer yet, mate?

No, but I wouldn't mind being held under some ice water.

That'd be cool.

[Booney]

[Frosty]

One of the very few times I've felt a tiny bit sorry for Chad Wingard.

Watching him walk off looking like he'd eaten a lemon, clearly filthy that his team couldn't get it together for his 100th.

Wasn't Port's best player but certainly not their worst........

[Booney]

One of the very few times I've felt a tiny bit sorry for Chad Wingard.

Watching him walk off looking like he'd eaten a lemon, clearly filthy that his team couldn't get it together for his 100th.

Wasn't Port's best player but certainly not their worst........

The whole front half could feel the same way, barely got any delivery that could be considered helpful to a forward.

As noted before, the backs didn't get much help either.

[Rik E Boy]

See my comments on the previous page, people saying it's the coaches fault are off the mark or just trolling, I can pick which is which.

10 days ago the system pushed a then top 4 side to play well and win by just 3 points. Last year it beat Hawthorn twice, no other coach managed that.

How many coaches managed to lose to Carlton and Brisbane last year? (backs out of the room...)

regards,

REB

[Booney]

See my comments on the previous page, people saying it's the coaches fault are off the mark or just trolling, I can pick which is which.

10 days ago the system pushed a then top 4 side to play well and win by just 3 points. Last year it beat Hawthorn twice, no other coach managed that.

How many coaches managed to lose to Carlton and Brisbane last year?

regards,

REB

Further demonstrates it's not the system, but the way the players apply themselves to it.

[gossipgirl]

I too think Hinkley will be there, give him at least a season or two with a full compliment of players but my guess is Stuart Dew would be next in line.

what about the bassett hound ?

[Booney]

I too think Hinkley will be there, give him at least a season or two with a full compliment of players but my guess is Stuart Dew would be next in line.

what about the bassett hound ?

He's one miserable prick.

[Rik E Boy]

See my comments on the previous page, people saying it's the coaches fault are off the mark or just trolling, I can pick which is which.

10 days ago the system pushed a then top 4 side to play well and win by just 3 points. Last year it beat Hawthorn twice, no other coach managed that.

How many coaches managed to lose to Carlton and Brisbane last year?

regards,

REB

Further demonstrates it's not the system, but the way the players apply themselves to it.

I think most reasonable observers realise it's all about depth, or lack of it that is the issue. Particularly when Lobbe goes down injured and Ryder is out suspended. Throw in gus as well. The writing was on the wall when you recruited Toumpas. Just like it was for us when we signed up Blease.

regards,

REB

[Booney]

Toumpas was recruited with depth in mind I think.

[Brodlach]

Has Polec and Toumpas played in the same side this year?

[Booney]

Yep, rounds 2 Adelaide, 3 Essendon, 4 GWS, 7 Brisbane. 4 times.

[LaughingKookaburra]

It's fair to scrutinise severely Boon. Let's honestly turn back 18-19 months ago. Very unfortunate they lost a prelim, but for the best part of 2 years they had proven themselves to be an improving team and club. They then recruited a ready to go Patty Ryder to take them to the next step. Then signed their core group to long term deals and market themselves as a club with strong commitment values combined with a proud history.

Fast forward the next 2 years, the following are some issues---->

*Beat Hawthorn twice last year---> To me that's a bigger concern than a positive. What the heck was happening when they consistently lost to complete rabble? One of those wins was also when the season was over.

*Hinkley said last year that the club wasn't dealing with expectation or something along those lines. I remember hearing Leigh Matthews who was lost for words on how laughable that was.

*The players output has continuously been scrutinised----> How long can you seriously keep saying this. Something has to give at some stage. Saying it for 2 years is unacceptable for a team who on paper has a far better team than they did compared to Prelim final day in 2014.

So who is it? The Coach, the players or the club? The coach needs to motivate these blokes to work hard consistently, without that you're screwed. It needs to be fixed and if it's not fixed before preseason in October 2016 I reckon you're in bigger trouble than the early settlers. The reason I say that is that if this is served up again next year it's just going to piss your fans off that the club worked to hard to get on board and did a great job in doing so. Also that's 3 years wasted, I honestly thought you would play in 2 grand finals during that time.

I'm not being a smartarse, nor a troll. I'd back Port before anyone besides the Crows even though I stir my mates up. I reckon the time to fix these issues is now.

[Brodlach]

Someone just said Port have made finals only twice in 10 years, is that right?

[Booney]

Someone just said Port have made finals only twice in 10 years, is that right?

Well, no....07, 13 and 14. 3 of the last 9.