The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogmatic » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:21 pm

In the NEAFL GF today Toby Nankervis and Jeremy Laidler were withdrawn as possible replacements for Tippett and Callum Mills.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby vics01 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:03 pm

If the AFL reserve sides were withdrawn to participate in a National reserves comp. Not a cent would come back to local footy.. Throw in Gilligans love child, female footy (elite) which the AFL are throwing millions at.. SANFL and community footy standards would wither away.

A positive of the AFL reserves is those who still have a chance of being drafted after schoolboy footy still get to test themselves against those who are there.

AFL (House) Gilligan and co do not care about anything outside of AFL.. They forget that without strong feeder comps their piggy bank will dry up.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DoublebluTiger » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:14 pm

Feeder Club for Freo, Peel Thunder, who finished 4th after Minor round pumped West Perth who finished 3rd (and two games clear of Thunder) by 10 goals today in 1st Semi. A tweet on herald sun afl tweet feed would suggest that 17 Freo listed players played.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:15 pm

What VICS01 said

If you think we're getting shafted now a reserves comp would totally screw us over.

F@$& all media, AFL clubsAFL wanting to run junior development, diminished dividends.

I don't like the current situation but the other alternatives are far worse.

Unfortunately we aren't going back to pre-2014.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby heater31 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:22 pm

am Bays wrote:
Unfortunately we aren't going back to pre-2014.


Which unfortunately is turning out to be the best outcome for all parties.....
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:33 pm

am Bays wrote:What VICS01 said

If you think we're getting shafted now a reserves comp would totally screw us over.

F@$& all media, AFL clubsAFL wanting to run junior development, diminished dividends.

I don't like the current situation but the other alternatives are far worse.

Unfortunately we aren't going back to pre-2014.

Not true.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Grenville » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:43 pm

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby RB » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:49 pm

am Bays wrote:What VICS01 said

If you think we're getting shafted now a reserves comp would totally screw us over.

F@$& all media, AFL clubsAFL wanting to run junior development, diminished dividends.

I don't like the current situation but the other alternatives are far worse.

Unfortunately we aren't going back to pre-2014.

Not possible.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby whufc » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:55 pm

RB wrote:
am Bays wrote:What VICS01 said

If you think we're getting shafted now a reserves comp would totally screw us over.

F@$& all media, AFL clubsAFL wanting to run junior development, diminished dividends.

I don't like the current situation but the other alternatives are far worse.

Unfortunately we aren't going back to pre-2014.

Not possible.


Agree, personally I couldn't if Centrals became an ammo club (would never happen) I just want them to play in an A Grade competition with integrity that is about building its own competition
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby csbowes » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:04 pm

This is the thing crows fans don't get no matter how many times they're told.

It's not about standard or money, it's about a league with integrity.

I'm happy for the league to become like A1, if that's the standard and popularity then so be it, but at least compete against like clubs and not be a development league for others to play with like a toy.

I see the incentive for people to play in the SANFL diminishing because the league is not a real league anymore.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Grenville » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:13 pm

csbowes wrote:This is the thing crows fans don't get no matter how many times they're told.

It's not about standard or money, it's about a league with integrity.

I'm happy for the league to become like A1, if that's the standard and popularity then so be it, but at least compete against like clubs and not be a development league for others to play with like a toy.

I see the incentive for people to play in the SANFL diminishing because the league is not a real league anymore.


Well put, agreed.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DoublebluTiger » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Grenville wrote:
csbowes wrote:This is the thing crows fans don't get no matter how many times they're told.

It's not about standard or money, it's about a league with integrity.

I'm happy for the league to become like A1, if that's the standard and popularity then so be it, but at least compete against like clubs and not be a development league for others to play with like a toy.

I see the incentive for people to play in the SANFL diminishing because the league is not a real league anymore.


Well put, agreed.


Yep integrity for me too. Not fussed of standard but would like integrity and respect afforded to league at whatever standard it maybe.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby SimonH » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:22 am

Dogmatic wrote:In the NEAFL GF today Toby Nankervis and Jeremy Laidler were withdrawn as possible replacements for Tippett and Callum Mills.
Grand finals don't mean much to the AFL listed teams.
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That's right. Possible replacements, for a game being played in 6 days' time.

And the Sydney Swans were acting rationally in their own interest—by in effect sacrificing a premiership, in order to have 2 possible replacement players a bit fresher.

And people worry about the effect that an AFL reserves comp might have on the SANFL? That's a bit like stressing about the unsightly scar you might be left with, if there is successful surgery to pull out a large cancerous growth.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:31 am

UK Fan wrote:if Roy Laird a 7 time premiership coach gets fined for saying "the Sanfl would bend over" does a crows board member for falsely stating this comp is dying. Interestingly He is not the first to use this statement when defending this move.

The Sanfl has not been dying since 1991. In 1991 the Sanfl transformed into a niche market. A niche market the afl/afl clubs now want dead/irrelevant.

But that does not equal a dying league.


I do find it interesting we need to explain to a crows board member that it doesnt matter if it's 3-4 seasons in . The anger pain and mistrust built by something u gave birth to stabbing you in the back is something u cant simply just accept and move on from.

I'd be happy to explain it to the Self indulgent prick.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:45 am

Booney wrote:
UK Fan wrote:if Roy Laird a 7 time premiership coach gets fined for saying "the Sanfl would bend over" does a crows board member for falsely stating this comp is dying. Interestingly He is not the first to use this statement when defending this move.

The Sanfl has not been dying since 1991. In 1991 the Sanfl transformed into a niche market. A niche market the afl/afl clubs now want dead/irrelevant.

But that does not equal a dying league.


I do find it interesting we need to explain to a crows board member that it doesnt matter if it's 3-4 seasons in . The anger pain and mistrust built by something u gave birth to stabbing you in the back is something u cant simply just accept and move on from.

I'd be happy to explain it to the Self indulgent prick.



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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:23 pm

Good work mods, good work. :lol:
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:15 pm


I wonder if the West Perth prez will be fined for bringing his league into disrepute?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby stan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:19 pm

Pseudo wrote:

I wonder if the West Perth prez will be fined for bringing is league into disrepute?

Yes he will. The WAFL need the cash as they unlike the SANFL have been left out of the new stadium management and hence there cash flow is vastly reduced.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby therisingblues » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:43 pm

stan wrote:
Pseudo wrote:

I wonder if the West Perth prez will be fined for bringing is league into disrepute?

Yes he will. The WAFL need the cash as they unlike the SANFL have been left out of the new stadium management and hence there cash flow is vastly reduced.

I guess that's what happens when you jump without thinking into a national comp.
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