CH9AFL Division 2 2016

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Who will win the D2 Grand Final?

Broadview
5
11%
Gaza
9
20%
Modbury
12
26%
Old Ignatians
3
7%
PHOS Camden
1
2%
Portland
3
7%
Sacred Heart OC
5
11%
Scotch OC
3
7%
SMOSH West Lakes
2
4%
St Peters OC
3
7%
 
Total votes : 46

Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Yank Man » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:39 pm

watchdog wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:Heard rumour the guy who coached Paskeville to Premiership recently been appointed as new coach at SMOSH?



Also see that Tom Roberts who coached Mitchell Park A's in 2016 has got the job as B grade coach. Great appointment.


Why didn't Mitchell Park fight hard to keep him then??



He resigned to try and develop his coaching craft at a higher level. They did try but his mind was made up. He lives 1 kilometre from Smosh so it's a perfect fit. Good luck to them, they've picked up a gem. ;)
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Jetters » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:04 pm

As someone mentioned, my frustration is not so much that scholarship players are 0 pointers, but that they recruit the best talent by effectively paying massive amounts to them/their families. Would seem outrageous (and rightfully so) for a junior football club to pay junior players, but this is normal in the private school world.

It's annoying that the big private schools have access to so many juniors/students and have to do very little to attract them to their clubs vs a community club (they also have to do way less to run their clubs often, not having to worry about ovals, facilities etc which are taken care of by the school), but that's just reality.

We do have a foot in both school and junior camps, but we absolutely have genuine connections with both groups. If you think that's unfair, we would love to have the rules as North East clubs and have unlimited junior numbers, have multiple teams per grade, more junior rego fees, which would help us sustain an U18s side and therefore a greater pool of senior players.

The argument whether the socialist route is the right.... Glenunga and CLG now have thriving junior programs, which is absolutely, most significantly due to this 1 team per age rule. If this was not the case Unley, Goodwood and Mitcham would all have multiple sides in each grade and those two clubs would still be struggling big time. BUT, has it reduced total numbers of participation? Maybe. Which is better 3 clubs with 2 teams each or 5 clubs with 1 team and more even competition? I think the answer is probably somewhere between relaxing the SANFL socialist rules and tightening the rules in the North East.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby scottroo » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:58 pm

I'm not sure your assessment of CLG is right jetters, 90% of our juniors come through our Auskick program, which once again was nominated for awards this year and numbers wise one of the biggest in Adelaide. Colonel light gardens is an area with huge growth amongst young families. We run a terrific junior program with senior players coaching our under 10s, 12s and 13s. We are very excited about the prospect of introducing under 18s next season too.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby jo172 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:39 pm

Jetters wrote:As someone mentioned, my frustration is not so much that scholarship players are 0 pointers, but that they recruit the best talent by effectively paying massive amounts to them/their families. Would seem outrageous (and rightfully so) for a junior football club to pay junior players, but this is normal in the private school world.

It's annoying that the big private schools have access to so many juniors/students and have to do very little to attract them to their clubs vs a community club (they also have to do way less to run their clubs often, not having to worry about ovals, facilities etc which are taken care of by the school), but that's just reality.

We do have a foot in both school and junior camps, but we absolutely have genuine connections with both groups. If you think that's unfair, we would love to have the rules as North East clubs and have unlimited junior numbers, have multiple teams per grade, more junior rego fees, which would help us sustain an U18s side and therefore a greater pool of senior players.

The argument whether the socialist route is the right.... Glenunga and CLG now have thriving junior programs, which is absolutely, most significantly due to this 1 team per age rule. If this was not the case Unley, Goodwood and Mitcham would all have multiple sides in each grade and those two clubs would still be struggling big time. BUT, has it reduced total numbers of participation? Maybe. Which is better 3 clubs with 2 teams each or 5 clubs with 1 team and more even competition? I think the answer is probably somewhere between relaxing the SANFL socialist rules and tightening the rules in the North East.


NEMJFA would likely have you if interested.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby jo172 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:48 pm

Also, the idea that there are NEMJFA clubs not fielding sides in age groups where other clubs have two is a myth. In the Age groups where all the bigger clubs have two sides 99% of clubs are represented.

Come 15s and 16s the numbers thin out. But it's exceedingly rare for any club to field two sides in these age groups

In thinking about junior football it's important not to lose sight of the ultimate objective being getting kids playing football.

If every NEMJFA club could only field one under 13 side the great winners would be the North Adelaide Rockets and Norwood Flames
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby jo172 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:56 pm

Sorry to monopolize this thread but Jetters point is where the SANFL fundamentally doesn't get it.

If PNU was limited to one side an age group (if the Payneham and Norwood Union football clubs didn't de-merge for the purposes of the rule which they would) our parents would look to put their kids at Walkerville, Hectorville, Broadview, Glenunga and Unley. Geographically similar clubs with similar values.

These clubs are already full. In some cases also full with a second team.

All this will result in is kids not playing football.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Oval Ball » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:06 am

Robran wrote:
TIRED TIGER wrote:Shaun Glacken, coached Rosewater before going to Paskeville. Should be in the Division 3 thread though. Did Carey Payne not want to go on????

Yes I did TT but club decided to get a new footbAll director in from the outside, and basically from my understanding he endorsed the new coach. Although very disappointed the decision was made and that's that, you move on and hope something else pops up,Good luck to the smosh players next year great bunch of lads.


Didn't Trent Payne win the B / Fairest this year, is he staying around or leaving now his dad isn't coaching.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby ROOBOY18 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:13 pm

Oval Ball wrote:
Robran wrote:
TIRED TIGER wrote:Shaun Glacken, coached Rosewater before going to Paskeville. Should be in the Division 3 thread though. Did Carey Payne not want to go on????

Yes I did TT but club decided to get a new footbAll director in from the outside, and basically from my understanding he endorsed the new coach. Although very disappointed the decision was made and that's that, you move on and hope something else pops up,Good luck to the smosh players next year great bunch of lads.


Didn't Trent Payne win the B / Fairest this year, is he staying around or leaving now his dad isn't coaching.

Trent has signed at Williston FC
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby morell » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:05 pm

watchdog wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:Heard rumour the guy who coached Paskeville to Premiership recently been appointed as new coach at SMOSH?



Also see that Tom Roberts who coached Mitchell Park A's in 2016 has got the job as B grade coach. Great appointment.


Why didn't Mitchell Park fight hard to keep him then??
Mitchell Park - 45 minutes from The Roberts residence. SMOSH - 45 seconds from The Roberts residence. With a young family it was a no brainer.

And don't worry, many an attempt was made to keep Tommy. Alas greener pastures awaits the big slap head.

Great appointment for SMOSH.

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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby jo172 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:27 pm

ROOBOY18 wrote:
Oval Ball wrote:
Robran wrote:
TIRED TIGER wrote:Shaun Glacken, coached Rosewater before going to Paskeville. Should be in the Division 3 thread though. Did Carey Payne not want to go on????

Yes I did TT but club decided to get a new footbAll director in from the outside, and basically from my understanding he endorsed the new coach. Although very disappointed the decision was made and that's that, you move on and hope something else pops up,Good luck to the smosh players next year great bunch of lads.


Didn't Trent Payne win the B / Fairest this year, is he staying around or leaving now his dad isn't coaching.

Trent has signed at Williston FC


How many clubs has Trent been at now?

Obviously there's some extenuating circumstances with his Old Man but it feels like a fair few?

Anyone volunteering to go the up the Highway Leagues is pretty brave given the Country Leagues aren't following through on reducing TPPS to $3,000 anytime soon meaning the C9AFL will likely start restricting transfers back in from those leagues.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:26 pm

Youre assuming they would ever want to go back? Why would you, the money's better in the country, the atmosphere is 1000 times better with the footy and netball. Spectators pay to watch local footy so that extra revenue should be spent over and above the SAAFL clubs salary cap.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby jo172 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:10 am

daysofourlives wrote:Youre assuming they would ever want to go back? Why would you, the money's better in the country, the atmosphere is 1000 times better with the footy and netball. Spectators pay to watch local footy so that extra revenue should be spent over and above the SAAFL clubs salary cap.


Looking at the clearances every year it seems very safe to assume that some players will ultimately wish to come back
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:56 am

jo172 wrote:
How many clubs has Trent been at now?

Obviously there's some extenuating circumstances with his Old Man but it feels like a fair few?



SMOSH
Elizabeth
The Lodge
Eastern Park

Yes, his dad is undoubtably a factor but who could blame either party?

Carey knows what he is getting, Trent knows what is expected of him and they get to have father and son time which I'm sure we'd all like more of.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby carey » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:06 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
jo172 wrote:
How many clubs has Trent been at now?

Obviously there's some extenuating circumstances with his Old Man but it feels like a fair few?



SMOSH
Elizabeth
The Lodge
Eastern Park

Yes, his dad is undoubtably a factor but who could blame either party?

Carey knows what he is getting, Trent knows what is expected of him and they get to have father and son time which I'm sure we'd all like more of.


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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Robran » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:08 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
jo172 wrote:
How many clubs has Trent been at now?

Obviously there's some extenuating circumstances with his Old Man but it feels like a fair few?



SMOSH
Elizabeth
The Lodge
Eastern Park

Yes, his dad is undoubtably a factor but who could blame either party?

Carey knows what he is getting, Trent knows what is expected of him and they get to have father and son time which I'm sure we'd all like more of.

Yeah it has been great getting to coach my son but it's now time for him to get off the boob and do what he thinks is right by his partner and his young son his partner is a player/coach at netball for Williston so this just fits.she rarely gets to see him play and he never see's his son on sat.So this is the choice his chosen and good luck to him.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:16 am

carey wrote:
Why am I brought in to this? ;)


I reckon your avatar is a decoy, you would've had Payney's number on your duffle coat back in the day.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:17 am

Robran wrote:Yeah it has been great getting to coach my son but it's now time for him to get off the boob and do what he thinks is right by his partner and his young son his partner is a player/coach at netball for Williston so this just fits.she rarely gets to see him play and he never see's his son on sat.So this is the choice his chosen and good luck to him.

I'm sure he'll love it out there, a few heads that he already knows.
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Re: CH9AFL Division 2 2016

Postby carey » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:40 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Robran wrote:Yeah it has been great getting to coach my son but it's now time for him to get off the boob and do what he thinks is right by his partner and his young son his partner is a player/coach at netball for Williston so this just fits.she rarely gets to see him play and he never see's his son on sat.So this is the choice his chosen and good luck to him.

I'm sure he'll love it out there, a few heads that he already knows.



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