by Booney » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:09 pm
by Dogwatcher » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:38 pm
by stan » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:03 pm
Magellan wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote: Cant $hitbag them when they break an election promise than $hitbag them when they keep one
As far as I remember, and Shorten certainly doesn't, he didn't win the election
So, we'll all sit around for another 2 1/2 years and get nowhere whilst the Canberra kids call each other names
BTW, don't forget the poodle is my local member. He wouldn't vote for SSM if his life depended upon it, but I would in a plebiscite
It's been like this for the past decade. Don't pretend it's just a Labor in opposition thing.
Abbott gave a masterclass in this form of politics.
Sadly, until both parties sort out their internal politics, this is what we're stuck it. Get some strong leaders, get parties who aren't fighting within their own forces and their own agendas.
Yep, spot on DW. We need some political leaders who are genuinely worthy of the title 'statesperson', or rather the parties need to develop and produce this type of leaders. In the last decade we've had a motley crew comprising a managerial bean-counter, a negotiator, a head-kicker and a loquacious toff.
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:36 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote: Cant $hitbag them when they break an election promise than $hitbag them when they keep one
As far as I remember, and Shorten certainly doesn't, he didn't win the election
So, we'll all sit around for another 2 1/2 years and get nowhere whilst the Canberra kids call each other names
BTW, don't forget the poodle is my local member. He wouldn't vote for SSM if his life depended upon it, but I would in a plebiscite
It's been like this for the past decade. Don't pretend it's just a Labor in opposition thing.
Abbott gave a masterclass in this form of politics.
Sadly, until both parties sort out their internal politics, this is what we're stuck it. Get some strong leaders, get parties who aren't fighting within their own forces and their own agendas.
by Rik E Boy » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:25 pm
stan wrote:Magellan wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote: Cant $hitbag them when they break an election promise than $hitbag them when they keep one
As far as I remember, and Shorten certainly doesn't, he didn't win the election
So, we'll all sit around for another 2 1/2 years and get nowhere whilst the Canberra kids call each other names
BTW, don't forget the poodle is my local member. He wouldn't vote for SSM if his life depended upon it, but I would in a plebiscite
It's been like this for the past decade. Don't pretend it's just a Labor in opposition thing.
Abbott gave a masterclass in this form of politics.
Sadly, until both parties sort out their internal politics, this is what we're stuck it. Get some strong leaders, get parties who aren't fighting within their own forces and their own agendas.
Yep, spot on DW. We need some political leaders who are genuinely worthy of the title 'statesperson', or rather the parties need to develop and produce this type of leaders. In the last decade we've had a motley crew comprising a managerial bean-counter, a negotiator, a head-kicker and a loquacious toff.
The last statemen was Howard. Having seen anything that would be close to a statesman these days.
by Magellan » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:18 am
by Ronnie » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:30 pm
Magellan wrote:Just to confirm that in the last 40 years the political right in Australia has lurched much further to the right, and that the Liberals will use anything for political advantage, including the achievements of former Prime Ministers, Peter Dutton has criticized Malcolm Fraser's immigration policies of the late 1970s and 1980s as contributing to Australia's struggle with foreign fighters traveling to international conflict zones.
Of course, Fraser's a favorite target among the harder right elements of the Liberals because of the more conscientious and humanitarian approach he advanced in his later years.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... ss2ad.html
by Magellan » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:51 pm
Ronnie wrote:Magellan wrote:Just to confirm that in the last 40 years the political right in Australia has lurched much further to the right, and that the Liberals will use anything for political advantage, including the achievements of former Prime Ministers, Peter Dutton has criticized Malcolm Fraser's immigration policies of the late 1970s and 1980s as contributing to Australia's struggle with foreign fighters traveling to international conflict zones.
Of course, Fraser's a favorite target among the harder right elements of the Liberals because of the more conscientious and humanitarian approach he advanced in his later years.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... ss2ad.html
Well, he does have a point when it comes to Fraser's handling of immigration controls during the early days of the Lebanese civil war. Decisions taken then to drop normal standards and admit large numbers of "quasi refugees" from Lebanon who were ill equipped for life here are now being played out on the streets of Western Sydney. Poor social outcomes come from poor policy. Ask any serving NSW Police Officer what's its like to police parts of Lakemba and Punchbowl these days.
by Ronnie » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:30 pm
by Magellan » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:47 pm
Ronnie wrote:Mal's political conversion was remarkable. Many on the left loathe him for toppling Gough. Many Liberals ended up loathing him for his constant sniping and criticism of any conservative cause in his latter years. He certainly held very different views after holding office than during. Didn't he end up campaigning for Sarah Hanson-Young? So I'd say he ended up parked with the Greens...
by Rik E Boy » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:50 pm
by stan » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:40 pm
Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
by Magellan » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:53 pm
stan wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
Lord Emperor Rupert to you peasant.
by shoe boy » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:31 am
by Dogwatcher » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:34 am
Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
by Booney » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:44 am
Dogwatcher wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
I was wondering about privatised jails this week and how far away they were in Australia.
You'd think our refugee detention centres are being viewed with interest by state governments.
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:15 am
Booney wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
I was wondering about privatised jails this week and how far away they were in Australia.
You'd think our refugee detention centres are being viewed with interest by state governments.
Privatised jails will happen when private organisations build them. I fail to see a privately owned company taking over and running a state built, antiquated, facility.
by Magellan » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:21 am
Booney wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:How long will it be before being Homeless becomes a criminal offence? And how much longer after that are we going to get privitised prisons? Once that happens the journey to the dark side will be complete.
regards,
Emperor Rupert.
I was wondering about privatised jails this week and how far away they were in Australia.
You'd think our refugee detention centres are being viewed with interest by state governments.
Privatised jails will happen when private organisations build them. I fail to see a privately owned company taking over and running a state built, antiquated, facility.
by Gozu » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:39 am
A tense encounter is expected on Wednesday between One Nation leader Pauline Hanson and her colleague Rodney Culleton after one of the pair failed to attend a planned crisis meeting on Tuesday night.
But in a further sign of the deteriorating relationship between the two One Nation senators, they cannot even agree on who failed to show up to last night's rendezvous.
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