Australian International Summer

[Booney]

There is more travel, but these Test figure comparisons always forget to take into account the number of First Class matches played by players in the past, as opposed to today. My understanding is, from previous commentary discussions around this topic, is that the number of days' play are very similar.

Interesting and not hard to believe.

I think the biggest thing would be the travel. For instance going to South Africa for 5 ODI's before the Aussie summer and then going to NZ for 3 ODI's before 3 in Sri Lanka before the India tour would not have happened.

I often wonder about these guys and their travel, I'm not a great flyer ( my arms are too small for my body ) but I'd imagine an international cricketer would be living on the edge if they didn't cope with air travel too well.

[MW]

They'd fly business class as a min. wouldn't they? Cattle I could understand, but if business or first class, should be no problems

[Bombers4EVA]

I see your point and understand it. Tell me this though. Who gets/got paid more? Mark Taylor or Warner?

Despite what we may all like to think, more money doesn't make you fresher after tea when they're 3/420 and it's 45° in Mumbai.

Agree. My point is that whether they like it or not. Today's cricketer's are a bit on the softer side than what they used to be. I understand they play quite a lot of cricket. But in the end of the day. It's cricket. Not boxing or a marathon or a triathlon. or any sport that takes a sh#t load more energy out of you. If you understand what I am trying to say and differentiate between cricket and sports that are more intense.

[The Bedge]

differentiate between cricket and sports that are more intense.

But they're intense over a shorter period - one sustained effort.. Cricket is played over 5x days and then backed up again for the next match usually within a week or two.

Have you ever actually played any sort of carnival or rep cricket that requires playing in consecutive days? It's incredibly taxing on the body and physically and mentally draining.. imagine fielding for 3x days of a test - 90 overs a day, 18 hours chasing a ball in 45 degree heat and requiring to stay focused from start to finish? Backing up each ball, constantly moving in the field and working angles, split stepping, chasing balls, throwing - thats before you even think about the bowlers or the batting application required.

Think you're selling cricket bit short mate.

[The Dark Knight]

Are you happy with resting players or would you rather see the same side play in each series we're involved in? I'd be pissed if I was going to watch the last ODI against Pakistan and see a 2nd grade side line up. I want to go and see the best team play against the opposing best team. But that's me. I didn't know that "Professional" cricketers needed to be wrapped in cotton wool. HTFU CA!!!!!

Second grade line up for the last ODI? No changes to the squad so the team won't change much, Warner and Khawaja will play in Adelaide. Stanklake won't play so they'll go with the same quicks. (Unless they play Faulkner for one of the three quicks).

[The Bedge]

Today's cricketer's are a bit on the softer side than what they used to be.

How many cricketers in your day (when they "harder") would've had specific skill training programs and requirements? Strength & Conditioning programs? Fitness criteria? Dietary standards? How many would've been full time cricketers/athletes?

[Bombers4EVA]

differentiate between cricket and sports that are more intense.

But they're intense over a shorter period - one sustained effort.. Cricket is played over 5x days and then backed up again for the next match usually within a week or two.

Have you ever actually played any sort of carnival or rep cricket that requires playing in consecutive days? It's incredibly taxing on the body and physically and mentally draining.. imagine fielding for 3x days of a test - 90 overs a day, 18 hours chasing a ball in 45 degree heat and requiring to stay focused from start to finish? Backing up each ball, constantly moving in the field and working angles, split stepping, chasing balls, throwing - thats before you even think about the bowlers or the batting application required.

Think you're selling cricket bit short mate.

Hey bud. Not trying to sell cricket short. Just saying how I see it. i have played cricket for over ten years. haven't played though for 4 years due to family reasons. Had to pick cricket or footy. So I picked footy. I've obviously only ever played the 2 day cricket so I can't say that I understand how they feel when they play 4 - 5 days. But like I said they are professionals and that is what they train for. They get paid big $$$$ for what they do. And also for how well they do what they are doing. They get added bonuses or sponsorship. So adding more $$$$ to their already existing $$$$. So in the end playing cricket is what they are getting paid to do. Whether it be 3 series, 1 series, 8 series or whatever. It's their job so why have a rest when they do get holidays every year?

[Bombers4EVA]

Today's cricketer's are a bit on the softer side than what they used to be.

How many cricketers in your day (when they "harder") would've had specific skill training programs and requirements? Strength & Conditioning programs? Fitness criteria? Dietary standards? How many would've been full time cricketers/athletes?

Agree with ya on how things have changed since the 80's, 90's and even early 2000's. But the travelling is pretty similar. I just don't agree on resting blokes and picking different sides each game. We do not have a settled side and haven't had one for a very long time. And I am not talking about injuries either.

[bennymacca]

I see your point and understand it. Tell me this though. Who gets/got paid more? Mark Taylor or Warner?

Despite what we may all like to think, more money doesn't make you fresher after tea when they're 3/420 and it's 45° in Mumbai.

Agree. My point is that whether they like it or not. Today's cricketer's are a bit on the softer side than what they used to be. I understand they play quite a lot of cricket. But in the end of the day. It's cricket. Not boxing or a marathon or a triathlon. or any sport that takes a sh#t load more energy out of you. If you understand what I am trying to say and differentiate between cricket and sports that are more intense.

I got an apple watch for christmas, and wore it on the weekend whilst i played a 40 over per side one day game.

I am a fat bloke playing country B Grade cricket. in 2 hr 45 mins, which included 7 overs of medium pacers, I burned nearly 10000kj and covered 12km for the day (would have included a bit of walking before and after the game), average heart rate of 145, and peak 191.

would love to see numbers like that for Starc when he bowls 20+ overs in a full day in the field.

[Trader]

I got an apple watch for christmas, and wore it on the weekend whilst i played a 40 over per side one day game.

I am a fat bloke playing country B Grade cricket. in 2 hr 45 mins, which included 7 overs of medium pacers, I burned nearly 10000kj and covered 12km for the day (would have included a bit of walking before and after the game), average heart rate of 145, and peak 191.

would love to see numbers like that for Starc when he bowls 20+ overs in a full day in the field.

According to this site: http://content.bemagazine.com.au/bemaga ... alculator/
That makes you 180kgs, which we know you're not.

I suspect your watch is giving you higher figures than the truth.

[MW]

145 average over 2 hours 45 is more like a marathon runner!

[am Bays]

I got an apple watch for christmas, and wore it on the weekend whilst i played a 40 over per side one day game.

I am a fat bloke playing country B Grade cricket. in 2 hr 45 mins, which included 7 overs of medium pacers, I burned nearly 10000kj and covered 12km for the day (would have included a bit of walking before and after the game), average heart rate of 145, and peak 191.

would love to see numbers like that for Starc when he bowls 20+ overs in a full day in the field.

According to this site: http://content.bemagazine.com.au/bemaga ... alculator/
That makes you 180kgs, which we know you're not.

I suspect your watch is giving you higher figures than the truth.

Or, and with the greatest respect BM but using your description of your kinanthropometry, your lack fitness means you have to work harder for a given intencity than say MW who does a lot of running (based on his posts over the years. Higher the HR for a given workload the more unfit you are.

Starc would probably have the same average HR as you for the same time period (~75% MHR - Z1) Interspersed with ave HRs of 170-180 BPM for an over. Much higher workload required though!

I suspect the watch is accurate.

145 average over 2 hours 45 is more like a marathon runner!

I would expect elite top level marathon runners at the front to sit at 88-92% MHR (zone 3/transport work) zone where they are just on the verge of their Lactate threshold (LT) so for for a 30 yo runner (170-180 BPM) for the race. Their average HR would be interspersed by surges up to 190 whilst they attempt to burn break their competitors by putting them into their "hurt zone" (above LT) , then recovering again at the 170 BPM before trying to break.

Recreation marathon plodders (good luck and on them I say) may sit at the 145 (75% MHR) for a 3-4 hrs.

[bennymacca]

145 average over 2 hours 45 is more like a marathon runner!

or a slightly nervous captain who was up against it for most of the day, then came roaring home to take a 5fa and get his side across the line

[bennymacca]

to be honest i am also a little skeptical of the heartrate monitor but i doubt its off by 50% or something

[Jim05]

145 average over 2 hours 45 is more like a marathon runner!

or a slightly nervous captain who was up against it for most of the day, then came roaring home to take a 5fa and get his side across the line

Pretty easy work when you guys are sandbagging it[emoji3]

[Gozu]

Allan Border Medal 7pm tonight on Gem.

[bennymacca]

145 average over 2 hours 45 is more like a marathon runner!

or a slightly nervous captain who was up against it for most of the day, then came roaring home to take a 5fa and get his side across the line

Pretty easy work when you guys are sandbagging it[emoji3]

Lol whatever.

[RB]

I suspect that some of the locals in Auckland will make it known to whoever's playing in place of Warner and Khawaja that they're not in the best XI.

Seriously though, a one-day tour of NZ then three 20/20s is a pretty terrible preparation for a tour of India. If they were serious about it there'd be a minimum of five tour games before the first test.

[The Dark Knight]

Allan Border Medal 7pm tonight on Gem.

The most important part of tonight is which Aussie cricketer has the hottest missus

[Tiger83]

Any early candidates???