Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

[mighty_tiger_79]

What does Corey's party do to One Nation?

[Dogwatcher]

What does Corey's party do to One Nation?

PH has tried to align herself, suggesting they have similarities. Which suggests to me she's concerned about it eroding her base.
They might have conservative values, but I'm not sure where ON fits in with the church-set, while I think many of the ON and CB economic principles are a bit different (that's coming from evaluations I've heard on radio this week). The similarities, I'd imagine would be in immigration and their stance on gay marriage.

[am Bays]

Strap yourself in we're in for a bit of a wild ride over the next 18 months.

Will be interesting to see if Corey's party is around after the next SA election.

He's basically trying to appeal to the disaffected voters of the two party system who lean to the right.

the Christian right has family first, and Pauline is already in that space particularly in the rural areas - wont be surprised if they pick up Flinders

So he is basically trying to appeal to the Pauline types who live in the cities. Maybe he's trying to get a toe hold before Pauline gears up before March 18.

Chuck in NXT trying to appeal to disaffected voters with conservative economic outlooks (keep manufacturing local/ local jobs etc)

The 30% who are not voting for the major parties are spoilt for choice, now

"Strange days indeed, most peculiar Mumma, Strange Days indeed..."

[stan]

Mr Christensen warned his Coalition colleagues not to be too harsh in their criticism of Bernardi.

“If indeed he’s leaving this is someone we’re going to have to negotiate with,” the Queensland MP told ABC.

My word I have said this a fair bit but he has already been attacked and well I would say threatened but really its bitched at by a few. You LNP guys will need his vote in the senate!

[Gozu]

What does this move tell us about Bernardi?
Why would he leave the Liberals, but not go to Family First - they share a similar platform and he has connections to that party through Bob Day - which would at least give him an already established brand to build from?
Not a team player?

Only a guess, but I think a certain business woman is probably funding it

Indeed.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Hints?

[Q.]

Gina the Hutt

[Magellan]

Gina the Hutt

Did she rename herself after eating all the remaining Pizza Hut dine-in restaurants?

Seriously though, if true I wonder what she stands to gain from bankrolling Bernardi? I don't know too much about her personal life, but I thought of her a a right-wing type from the pro-business/big-end-of-town/small government school of thought, and less to do with morals and family values etc given she's ****** her relationship with most her kids pretty badly and seemingly puts business interests ahead of family.

[Q.]

Gina the Hutt

Did she rename herself after eating all the remaining Pizza Hut dine-in restaurants?

Seriously though, if true I wonder what she stands to gain from bankrolling Bernardi? I don't know too much about her personal life, but I thought of her a a right-wing type from the pro-business/big-end-of-town/small government school of thought, and less to do with morals and family values etc given she's ****** her relationship with most her kids pretty badly and seemingly puts business interests ahead of family.

She's bankrolling corporate tax cut and cheap labour policies

[Magellan]

Gina the Hutt

Did she rename herself after eating all the remaining Pizza Hut dine-in restaurants?

Seriously though, if true I wonder what she stands to gain from bankrolling Bernardi? I don't know too much about her personal life, but I thought of her a a right-wing type from the pro-business/big-end-of-town/small government school of thought, and less to do with morals and family values etc given she's ****** her relationship with most her kids pretty badly and seemingly puts business interests ahead of family.

She's bankrolling corporate tax cut and cheap labour policies

I get that, but can't she get those kind of benefits by appealing to and funding the Liberals as they are? Bernardi still supports those core liberal principles. I just don't see how his moral crusade thing benefits her, unless there's more to it and Bernardi has an agenda to import and exploit cheap labour from overseas (which of course Gina is very much down with).

[Leaping Lindner]

Just over 6 months ago Bernadi was elected to the senate for six years on the back of the Liberal brand. Now he decided he is "independent" he'll spend the next five years plus change suckling on the taxpayer teet, will all the perks that entails. If he was truly a man of his convictions he would have left the Liberal Party prior to the last election and taken his chances then......but no $$$ in that. He is a fraud, who is a greedy little ****er.

[Magellan]

Just over 6 months ago Bernadi was elected to the senate for six years on the back of the Liberal brand. Now he decided he is "independent" he'll spend the next five years plus change suckling on the taxpayer teet, will all the perks that entails. If he was truly a man of his convictions he would have left the Liberal Party prior to the last election and taken his chances then......but no $$$ in that. He is a fraud, who is a greedy little ****er.

I reckon he said in his press conference yesterday that he had no idea of leaving the party at last year's election. Like shit he didn't.

I'd say Sean Edwards, the bloke who got ousted on the Liberal's senate ticket for Bernardi's spot, would not be a happy little camper at the minute.

[Jimmy_041]

Just over 6 months ago Bernadi was elected to the senate for six years on the back of the Liberal brand. Now he decided he is "independent" he'll spend the next five years plus change suckling on the taxpayer teet, will all the perks that entails. If he was truly a man of his convictions he would have left the Liberal Party prior to the last election and taken his chances then......but no $$$ in that. He is a fraud, who is a greedy little ****er.

I reckon he said in his press conference yesterday that he had no idea of leaving the party at last year's election. Like shit he didn't.

I'd say Sean Edwards, the bloke who got ousted on the Liberal's senate ticket for Bernardi's spot, would not be a happy little camper at the minute.

Sean was 5th on the ticket
That's nowhere near 2nd

Sean was shafted because he stood up to Abbott over the subs.
Cheers Chwistofer.

[Jimmy_041]

Just over 6 months ago Bernadi was elected to the senate for six years on the back of the Liberal brand. Now he decided he is "independent" he'll spend the next five years plus change suckling on the taxpayer teet, will all the perks that entails. If he was truly a man of his convictions he would have left the Liberal Party prior to the last election and taken his chances then......but no $$$ in that. He is a fraud, who is a greedy little ****er.

Putting aside the opportunity to have a crack (I would do the same thing if it was a Labor senator doing it)

There is nothing in the Constitution about parties
Senators are elected to represent their state, not the party so what he is doing is constitutional

Section 7 of the Australian Constitution reads in part:

7. The Senate

The Senate shall be composed of senators for each State, directly chosen by the people of the State, voting, until the Parliament otherwise provides, as one electorate.

But until the Parliament of the Commonwealth otherwise provides, the Parliament of the State of Queensland, if that State be an Original State, may make laws dividing the State into divisions and determining the number of senators to be chosen for each division, and in the absence of such provision the State shall be one electorate.

Until the Parliament otherwise provides there shall be six senators for each Original State. The Parliament may make laws increasing or diminishing the number of senators for each State,5 but so that equal representation of the several Original States shall be maintained and that no Original State shall have less than six senators.

The senators shall be chosen for a term of six years, and the names of the senators chosen for each State shall be certified by the Governor to the Governor-General.

[Magellan]

Sean was 5th on the ticket
That's nowhere near 2nd

5 candidates to pick from, 4 spots on the ticket. Take away number 1, that gives number 5 a gig as everyone shifts up a rung. Unless someone else was always in the running to oust Edwards.

[Dogwatcher]

Edwards was always in trouble - that was well before the subs.

[Jimmy_041]

Sean was 5th on the ticket
That's nowhere near 2nd

5 candidates to pick from, 4 spots on the ticket. Take away number 1, that gives number 5 a gig as everyone shifts up a rung. Unless someone else was always in the running to oust Edwards.

Yeah, I know what you meant
Just this is slightly different (ie) Bernardi took Edwards spot at 2

the bloke who got ousted on the Liberal's senate ticket for Bernardi's spot

Birmingham and Bernardi got their mates in at 3 & 4 leaving him at 5

[Magellan]

I don't think LL was saying Bernardi has acted unconstitutionally, just someone without a sense of common courtesy. He didn't have the bottle to front the party room to tell them of his decision in person.

There is nothing in the Constitution about parties

Ah....no, not quite. Have a look at section 15 - casual vacancies, a few references there, particularity about replacing senators.

The system and conventions employed under the Constitution assume the existence of political parties, because it is the party who holds the majority of seats in the lower house that holds legislative power, and they get to pick the prime minister. Don't be fooled by the lack of text in the Constitution - there's no mention of a prime minister either. Taken literally, the GG would be running the show.

[Jimmy_041]

I don't think LL was saying Bernardi has acted unconstitutionally, just someone without a sense of common courtesy. He didn't have the bottle to front the party room to tell them of his decision in person.

There is nothing in the Constitution about parties

Ah....no, not quite. Have a look at section 15 - casual vacancies, a few references there, particularity about replacing senators.

The system and conventions employed under the Constitution assume the existence of political parties, because it is the party who holds the majority of seats in the lower house that holds legislative power, and they get to pick the prime minister. Don't be fooled by the lack of text in the Constitution - there's no mention of a prime minister either. Taken literally, the GG would be running the show.

I stand corrected
Probably brought in when Joh pulled the swifty

[Jimmy_041]

I don't think LL was saying Bernardi has acted unconstitutionally, just someone without a sense of common courtesy. He didn't have the bottle to front the party room to tell them of his decision in person.

There is nothing in the Constitution about parties

Ah....no, not quite. Have a look at section 15 - casual vacancies, a few references there, particularity about replacing senators.

The system and conventions employed under the Constitution assume the existence of political parties, because it is the party who holds the majority of seats in the lower house that holds legislative power, and they get to pick the prime minister. Don't be fooled by the lack of text in the Constitution - there's no mention of a prime minister either. Taken literally, the GG would be running the show.

I stand corrected
Probably brought in when Joh pulled the swifty

Yep, and some others