by Corona Man » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:32 pm
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:09 pm
Corona Man wrote:Drinking Steinlagers in some sports bar in Auckland watching the UFC...
by bennymacca » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:04 pm
Psyber wrote:Magellan wrote:Booney wrote:Magellan wrote:[quote="Booney"]“If we take something like any fiction, any holy book, and destroyed it, in a thousand years’ time that wouldn’t come back just as it was. Whereas if we took every science book and every fact and destroyed them all, in a thousand years they’d all be back, because all the same tests would be the same result.” - Ricky Gervais
Let me guess...the topic was climate change?
Climate change or religion, one of the two.
If you're in the US, they tend to be part of the same conversation...unfortunately.
by Magellan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:39 am
bennymacca wrote:Psyber wrote:Related phenomena...
There is no doubt climate change exists - it always has.
The part that becomes like a religion is whether or not it is all human caused, independent of humans, or a mix of both.
I tend to favour the third option and am all for cleaning up our contribution, but think it is naive to think doing that will stop it happening entirely.
The big religious myth regularly trotted out is the assertion that meteorological records prove it is new - wrong - they began being recorded after the last mini Ice Age that ended during the late 19th century and are therefore bound to show an upward trend.
Wrong mate - even the most militant climate change scientists think it's a mix of both.
The issue lies in what to do about it - conservatives typically like money in their own pockets and favour market solutions to any problem, not huge government responses which are costly. So the right typically come up with a narrative that it may not be happening anyway to avoid paying for something
Having said that I think a carbon pricing scheme is a sensible market solution to this issue
by Jack » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:02 pm
by amber_fluid » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:25 pm
Jack wrote:Happy VD day today to all my past girlfriends
by Magellan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:50 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Jack wrote:Happy VD day today to all my past girlfriends
Do you only pass on your STD's on Valentine's Day?
by Wedgie » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:14 pm
Magellan wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Jack wrote:Happy VD day today to all my past girlfriends
Do you only pass on your STD's on Valentine's Day?
Give 'em a clap, they've probably earned it.
by Pseudo » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:35 pm
Wedgie wrote:Magellan wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Jack wrote:Happy VD day today to all my past girlfriends
Do you only pass on your STD's on Valentine's Day?
Give 'em a clap, they've probably earned it.
No need to be crabby about it.
by Magellan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:48 pm
Pseudo wrote:Wedgie wrote:Magellan wrote:amber_fluid wrote:
Do you only pass on your STD's on Valentine's Day?
Give 'em a clap, they've probably earned it.
No need to be crabby about it.
He's only crabby because his ex-GF was so ill-mannered. She needs to mind herpes and q's.
by MatteeG » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:07 pm
Magellan wrote:Pseudo wrote:He's only crabby because his ex-GF was so ill-mannered. She needs to mind herpes and q's.
You mean Phyllis? No way. 'Syphilis would be irritating or get under your skin.
helicopterking wrote:Flaggies will choke. Always have.
by JK » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:07 pm
by am Bays » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:14 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:04 pm
JK wrote:He knew he would upset his ex, as soon as he gave it to her he thought "Im a Gonorrhea"
by Johno6 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:37 pm
by HH3 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:43 pm
by Psyber » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:16 pm
Magellan wrote:bennymacca wrote: Wrong mate - even the most militant climate change scientists think it's a mix of both*.
The issue lies in what to do about it - conservatives typically like money in their own pockets and favour market solutions to any problem, not huge government responses which are costly. So the right typically come up with a narrative that it may not be happening anyway to avoid paying for something
Having said that I think a carbon pricing scheme is a sensible market solution to this issue
Agree. Market solutions can be a cop out for low-taxing small-government governments, but in terms of managing a by-product what are almost exclusively private entities, market-based solutions are probably the only way to go. History's shown that it's better to use the carrot than the stick when managing pollutants and undesirable by-products.
The bigger question beyond managing GHG emissions is managing their impacts on the ground. Whether it's anthropogenic carbon emissions or nature, the fact is that our human and natural environments are subject to significant hazards and impacts, like inundation and erosion at the coast, or increasing bushfires in the sticks.
by heater31 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:02 pm
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