Grade Cricket

[daysofourlives]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

[Eagles2014]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Still a bit sensitive Days about not getting your 20/20 game on Adelaide Oval!!

[heater31]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Pretty important when SACA expect the clubs to develop players for them on the smell of an oily rag then take all the glory when we fluke one to actually make it

[Aeropti]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Bit of an inferiority complex showing through here.....

[daysofourlives]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Pretty important when SACA expect the clubs to develop players for them on the smell of an oily rag then take all the glory when we fluke one to actually make it

If there was only 8 clubs to fund they wouldnt have to run on an oily rag. As someone else has said its not just A Grade where the comp suffers from too many teams, its right through the grades down to the juniors. Grade clubs shouldnt be for any old kid to rock up and fill the numbers it should be elite with positions earnt.
I saw with interest that West Torrnes are doing a milo in2 cricket program. Is that something a grade club should be doing? IMO thats the domain of community clubs. Dont get me wrong the more kids participating the better, i just think a grade clubs focus should be elsewhere. Do other grade clubs do the same?

[Lightning McQueen]

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Bit of an inferiority complex showing through here.....

I think he raises a valid point. No one wants to lose their identity and we need the best players playing against each other so the step up to domestic cricket isn't so hiuge.

[Tony Clifton]

Two divisions of 8 teams would be a great idea.

Spell the U/19's team. Add a club in the Barossa (Gawler probably close enough) and one at Mt Barker. Sixteenth team.... hmmm, not sure. Put the 16th position out to tender. Bump up the funding for the clubs in the top division, bump down the funding for the clubs in the second division.

Top four in each division play finals each year. Premier from Div 2 promoted, wooden spooner from Div 1 relegated.

All Redbacks, Emerging, U/19 and U/17 state squad members must play for a Div 1 club - with transfer fees involved if a player has to move from Div 2 to Div 1.

Straight away it becomes an extremely competitive environment. Dog eat dog, survival of the fittest. Scrap zones. Clubs must provide quality coaching, facilities, environments to attract players.

Juniors play in the one competition. No Div 1/Div 2 for juniors until it gets up to U/17 level.

[Lightning McQueen]

Two divisions of 8 teams would be a great idea.

Spell the U/19's team. Add a club in the Barossa (Gawler probably close enough) and one at Mt Barker. Sixteenth team.... hmmm, not sure. Put the 16th position out to tender. Bump up the funding for the clubs in the top division, bump down the funding for the clubs in the second division.

Top four in each division play finals each year. Premier from Div 2 promoted, wooden spooner from Div 1 relegated.

All Redbacks, Emerging, U/19 and U/17 state squad members must play for a Div 1 club - with transfer fees involved if a player has to move from Div 2 to Div 1.

Straight away it becomes an extremely competitive environment. Dog eat dog, survival of the fittest. Scrap zones. Clubs must provide quality coaching, facilities, environments to attract players.

Juniors play in the one competition. No Div 1/Div 2 for juniors until it gets up to U/17 level.

Where's the like button. Not sold on the transfer fee for a player to go up a division though, should be able to loan a player if all 3 parties agree.

[Shark_Hunter]

Interesting article in this week's Messenger re SACA Under 19 team coming into 1st Grade comp.

Of all the Clubs spoken too, only two thought it was a good idea.

Naturally, Adelaide Uni were for it as they have no Juniors and it will not impact on them, surprise, surprise.

Also, Woodville agreed, but they have hardly developed any good juniors over the years, they just go pinching them from other Clubs, so wont affect them much either. (Sam McNally will no doubt be busy on the phone in the off season as per usual - that's if he still has the job).

Some great comments from Weaver and Brown too, pity SACA don't listen to guys like this that have over 10 years experience in the Comp and make a lot of sense with what they say.

Just grade clubs thinking they are more important than the redbacks again. Just go to 2 divisions and you can all keep your precious grade clubs

Pretty important when SACA expect the clubs to develop players for them on the smell of an oily rag then take all the glory when we fluke one to actually make it

If there was only 8 clubs to fund they wouldnt have to run on an oily rag. As someone else has said its not just A Grade where the comp suffers from too many teams, its right through the grades down to the juniors. Grade clubs shouldnt be for any old kid to rock up and fill the numbers it should be elite with positions earnt.
I saw with interest that West Torrnes are doing a milo in2 cricket program. Is that something a grade club should be doing? IMO thats the domain of community clubs. Dont get me wrong the more kids participating the better, i just think a grade clubs focus should be elsewhere. Do other grade clubs do the same?

I'd assume most Premier Clubs would run in2cricket and/or T20 Blast, but I may be wrong. The fact a component of their annual funding is tied to running these programs would suggest the SACA and CA think they should be doing this.....

[Tony Clifton]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

[Computer Crashed]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

Love the last sentence there Tony.
That's exactly why other organisations have no respect for Grade Cricket anymore.
Self indulgent pigs.

[Eagles2014]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

Love the last sentence there Tony.
That's exactly why other organisations have no respect for Grade Cricket anymore.
Self indulgent pigs.

West Torrens have a good relationship with the Turf Clubs in our area. Our Milo program is considered one of the best in the State, all the parents rave about it, and have been to other programs but want to come to ours. We had 20 kids five years ago, now have 60 kids.

We currently have Under 11 and Under 13 teams, but apparently SACA are wanting to take these away from us. Another bun fight coming up. What they don't get is all the Turf Clubs are full in these grades in our area (Grange, Fulham, etc), so where are all these kids going to go play? They wont, they will go play tennis!

We work in with the Clubs and send players to them all the time, so don't see an issue if you all work sensibly together.

[Computer Crashed]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

Love the last sentence there Tony.
That's exactly why other organisations have no respect for Grade Cricket anymore.
Self indulgent pigs.

West Torrens have a good relationship with the Turf Clubs in our area. Our Milo program is considered one of the best in the State, all the parents rave about it, and have been to other programs but want to come to ours. We had 20 kids five years ago, now have 60 kids.

We currently have Under 11 and Under 13 teams, but apparently SACA are wanting to take these away from us. Another bun fight coming up. What they don't get is all the Turf Clubs are full in these grades in our area (Grange, Fulham, etc), so where are all these kids going to go play? They wont, they will go play tennis!

We work in with the Clubs and send players to them all the time, so don't see an issue if you all work sensibly together.

Well done.

[Aeropti]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

Love the last sentence there Tony.
That's exactly why other organisations have no respect for Grade Cricket anymore.
Self indulgent pigs.

West Torrens have a good relationship with the Turf Clubs in our area. Our Milo program is considered one of the best in the State, all the parents rave about it, and have been to other programs but want to come to ours. We had 20 kids five years ago, now have 60 kids.

We currently have Under 11 and Under 13 teams, but apparently SACA are wanting to take these away from us. Another bun fight coming up. What they don't get is all the Turf Clubs are full in these grades in our area (Grange, Fulham, etc), so where are all these kids going to go play? They wont, they will go play tennis!

We work in with the Clubs and send players to them all the time, so don't see an issue if you all work sensibly together.

So it's self indulgent for young players who show promise to go on and play a better standard of cricket and for clubs to seek these players out? Right.

[Computer Crashed]

Without a doubt Aeropti.
That's called striving to be the best.
You need to be self indulgent to be the best.
When someone comes on here as TC has and self proclaims to pick the eyes out of all the talent other organisations are mustering, expect nothing less than backlash for riding on the coat tails of people doing the ground work.
Your confusing the two .

[Tony Clifton]

Premier clubs get money for game development activities but that doesn't mean they have to run Milo cricket or anything. Putting their coaches through Level 1 courses, Talent ID in country areas, setting up boys/girls academies through the winter etc all fall under that banner.

It doesn't really make sense for a premier club to run Milo cricket because the kids won't move up to the next level at a premier club because they don't have teams until the kids are 10-11 years old at the earliest. Makes sense for schools or turf clubs to run the Milo cricket so that the kids can progress through the pathways at the schools/turf clubs. Later the premier clubs can pick the eyes out of the talent.

Love the last sentence there Tony.
That's exactly why other organisations have no respect for Grade Cricket anymore.
Self indulgent pigs.[/quote]
Don't be ridiculous. That's the specific reason grade clubs exist.

Community clubs should be proud to see players progress, the same as grade clubs should be proud to see their players progress to higher levels, even though they won't play for the grade club anymore.

[Eagles2014]

West Torrens 160
Kensington 145
Port Adelaide 140
Tea Tree Gully 135
Glenelg 125

Adelaide in 6th spot on 100 probably too far back.

What were Woodville thinking, typical negative cricket by them. Had Uni 9/367 overnight and bat on for 5 overs. Then have Uni nine down, those seven extra overs would have been handy, now out of finals contention.

Ladder tightening up now between the five teams left with chance of playing finals.

[Tony Clifton]

Big game between TTG and West Torrens this week

[Eagles2014]

Big game between TTG and West Torrens this week

Massive game. Could potentially be playing in One Day Grand Final next Sunday also if TTG get over the Bays tomorrow. Will make for a big weekend next week!

Port must beat Sturt next game as have a Bye in the final round.

[Aerie]

West Torrens and Kensington both wasted good starts to just fall short in their run chases and open up those crucial top 2 positions. A big game for WT and TTG next week. I wonder if Port and Sturt set up an outright result from the start for next game?

Those Redbacks who got the chance did ok yesterday. Dalton and Smith doing no harm for their chances to replace one of the Redbacks openers. Why don't the SACA program with the Redbacks in mind? For instance, a Saturday/Sunday game this round (instead of one earlier in the season) so Raphael, Lehmann, Carey etc can have a hit. It isn't rocket science and would beat having the interchanging of players (or trying to kick out a club to prevent a bye).

Weatherald 139
Raphael dnb
Ferguson 63 (run out)
Head Aus T20
Lehmann dnb
Cooper 30 (run out)
Carey dnb

Smith 92
Dalton 149