Port Adelaide 2017

[Booney]

2009 was Butcher, 2012 was Shaw, 2013 was Harvey.

We got 31 games and 41 goals from Butcher. 0 and 0 from the other two.

2010-2013, our lowest point off field coincided with our worst drafting period.

[Booney]

Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

And the downside is you get stuck with him for 5 years on big $....huge risk.

Very early in the season, but at this stage a Rookie on 10% of his pay packet is looking more dangerous.

Who should Port have gone after at the end of 2015 to fill the huge gap up front?

[PatowalongaPirate]

Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

And the downside is you get stuck with him for 5 years on big $....huge risk.

Very early in the season, but at this stage a Rookie on 10% of his pay packet is looking more dangerous.

Who should Port have gone after at the end of 2015 to fill the huge gap up front?

Petrie.

[amber_fluid]

Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

And the downside is you get stuck with him for 5 years on big $....huge risk.

Very early in the season, but at this stage a Rookie on 10% of his pay packet is looking more dangerous.

Who should Port have gone after at the end of 2015 to fill the huge gap up front?

Petrie.

He said fill the gap, not stand in it and look like a goose!
Though Dixon does this very well as well!

[MW]

Interesting debate...
Port take an expensive risk in draft picks and wage on Dixon and get blasted for it, yet Adelaide don't take a similar risk on Gibbs and also get blasted for it.

[Booney]

Interesting debate...
Port take an expensive risk in draft picks and wage on Dixon and get blasted for it, yet Adelaide don't take a similar risk on Gibbs and also get blasted for it.

Dutchy knocks the Dixon deal ad nauseam, I'll be interested in what he thinks our recruiting department should have done.

[bennymacca]

2009 was Butcher, 2012 was Shaw, 2013 was Harvey.

We got 31 games and 41 goals from Butcher. 0 and 0 from the other two.

2010-2013, our lowest point off field coincided with our worst drafting period.

Maybe they skimped on the recruiting department during this time?

[amber_fluid]

2009 was Butcher, 2012 was Shaw, 2013 was Harvey.

We got 31 games and 41 goals from Butcher. 0 and 0 from the other two.

2010-2013, our lowest point off field coincided with our worst drafting period.

Maybe they skimped on the recruiting department during this time?

Do $$ spent in the recruiting area equate to good draft choices?
I remember seeing the $$ spend per club on recruitment and it didn't necessarily equate to success.

[valleys07]

Butcher was absolutely the best key forward prospect in his draft year. The outcry had we not selected him would have been more vicious than the criticism he copped by not performing. He was as much a victim of the weight of expectation post our Tredrea years, as he was a victim of injury and poor development.

Shaw was the right pick for his draft range. Looked likely to get a game after some strong performances in the SANFL, but injury cruelled that, and he never recovered and was delisted.

Harvey was the wrong selection. Considering Ben Brown was still on the table at the time, and would have fit a list need of fwd/2nd ruck that we needed at the time, and subsequently traded for in Ryder, to have him picked by North 3 picks later gripes me.

[GWW]

Yeah, the criticism of Butcher would be based on development, not drafting.

Its a sad indictment that the club hasnt drafted a key forward in recent years that has really succeeded.

*Schulz - traded in/mature ager

*Tredrea - champion, but wasnt recruited as part of the draft

*Chad Cornes - great player, but mainly known as defender

*Cummings - decent for a year as a mature aged trade

*Westhoff - had a good AFL career, relative to his draft pick, but not really a legitimate key forward

In saying that, it is relatively difficult to draft in a forward who becomes a gun, it is usually the case that they are early draft picks (N & R Riewoldt, Franklin, Roughead) or father/son pick (Cloke/Darcy Moore).

[Psyber]

Did I read the AFL web page correctly?
It appears there will be no free to air TV of the Power match against Sydney on the 25th, while there will be for the Crows/Giants match on the 26th.
It will be one or four only on Channel 7.

I always expected there would be a gradual transition of AFL matches to subscription only, but we seem to be further along that route than I expected at this stage...

[Mickyj]

Did I read the AFL web page correctly?
It appears there will be no free to air TV of the Power match against Sydney on the 25th, while there will be for the Crows/Giants match on the 26th.
It will be one or four only on Channel 7.

I always expected there would be a gradual transition of AFL matches to subscription only, but we seem to be further along that route than I expected at this stage...

My understanding South Australia is behind WA that's been going on for a year or two .

[amber_fluid]

Butcher was absolutely the best key forward prospect in his draft year. The outcry had we not selected him would have been more vicious than the criticism he copped by not performing. He was as much a victim of the weight of expectation post our Tredrea years, as he was a victim of injury and poor development.

Shaw was the right pick for his draft range. Looked likely to get a game after some strong performances in the SANFL, but injury cruelled that, and he never recovered and was delisted.

Harvey was the wrong selection. Considering Ben Brown was still on the table at the time, and would have fit a list need of fwd/2nd ruck that we needed at the time, and subsequently traded for in Ryder, to have him picked by North 3 picks later gripes me.

Butcher was highly rated by many teams and Port did the right thing picking him.
Problem was they never gave him an extended run in the side to see if he was good enough.

Not sure he would have made it anyway but I guess we'll never know.

[bennymacca]

Did I read the AFL web page correctly?
It appears there will be no free to air TV of the Power match against Sydney on the 25th, while there will be for the Crows/Giants match on the 26th.
It will be one or four only on Channel 7.

I always expected there would be a gradual transition of AFL matches to subscription only, but we seem to be further along that route than I expected at this stage...

Pretty sure all crows and power games are free to air, it's just that some of the away games are delayed whereas they always used to be live

[Booney]

Matt Broadbent has been cleared to play and will be considered for round 1 after a minor hamstring from Ports internal trial on 18th Feb.

Port's injury list before round 1 :

Broadbent - Hamstring - Available
Pittard - Hamstring - 2-3 weeks
Howard - ACL - 3-5 weeks

[The Bedge]

Matt Broadbent has been cleared to play and will be considered for round 1 after a minor hamstring from Ports internal trial on 18th Feb.

Port's injury list before round 1 :

Broadbent - Hamstring - Available
Pittard - Hamstring - 2-3 weeks
Howard - ACL - 3-5 weeks

More people on the suspended list than the injured list

[valleys07]

Matt Broadbent has been cleared to play and will be considered for round 1 after a minor hamstring from Ports internal trial on 18th Feb.

Port's injury list before round 1 :

Broadbent - Hamstring - Available
Pittard - Hamstring - 2-3 weeks
Howard - ACL - 3-5 weeks

Thoughts on this, Boon?

Should we run with both Brogs and Gray in R1 on the back of limited/no pre-season match form?

Personally- leave Brogs in the maggies for a week.

[Booney]

Agreed. Give Byrne-Jones, Hartlett and Bonner the job as the small backs with Pittard to return and Impey and Krakouer earning their spots.

PS - We play Sturt in a trial Thursday night at Alberton, that's where Brogs would be.

[Dutchy]

Interesting debate...
Port take an expensive risk in draft picks and wage on Dixon and get blasted for it, yet Adelaide don't take a similar risk on Gibbs and also get blasted for it.

Dutchy knocks the Dixon deal ad nauseam, I'll be interested in what he thinks our recruiting department should have done.

Hard to judge this early untill you see what the 2015 draft delivers beyond the No. 10 pick you gave away.

But could have picked up Brett Eddy a year earlier and saved $650k a year which would provide much needed cap relief to retain you other stars which will be very tight in the next 2 years.

At the end of the day it was a massive risk to take him on for 5 years on big $....if it was 2-3 years then absolutely worth taking, this was on the back of the Hartlett long term contracting mistake also.

IMO any deal more than 3 years is for the absolute A graders of the comp, too many B graders are getting long term deals and they rarely work out for the club,

[Lightning McQueen]

Interesting debate...
Port take an expensive risk in draft picks and wage on Dixon and get blasted for it, yet Adelaide don't take a similar risk on Gibbs and also get blasted for it.

Dutchy knocks the Dixon deal ad nauseam, I'll be interested in what he thinks our recruiting department should have done.

Hard to judge this early untill you see what the 2015 draft delivers beyond the No. 10 pick you gave away.

But could have picked up Brett Eddy a year earlier and saved $650k a year which would provide much needed cap relief to retain you other stars which will be very tight in the next 2 years.

At the end of the day it was a massive risk to take him on for 5 years on big $....if it was 2-3 years then absolutely worth taking, this was on the back of the Hartlett long term contracting mistake also.

IMO any deal more than 3 years is for the absolute A graders of the comp, too many B graders are getting long term deals and they rarely work out for the club,

2017 Coleman Medalist.