by morell » Mon May 15, 2017 11:59 am
by Dutchy » Mon May 15, 2017 12:09 pm
by Booney » Mon May 15, 2017 12:27 pm
Dutchy wrote:6 teams have a bye on a perfect Autumn weekend still a few weeks before winter, SANFL are clearly no longer intere sted in crowds or interest in the league at a time of the year where it should be gaining momentum.
by Dogwatcher » Mon May 15, 2017 12:31 pm
Booney wrote:Dutchy wrote:6 teams have a bye on a perfect Autumn weekend still a few weeks before winter, SANFL are clearly no longer intere sted in crowds or interest in the league at a time of the year where it should be gaining momentum.
I believe the fixture over the last 3 years has been as significant as any other negative the competition has been subjected too.
by Booney » Mon May 15, 2017 12:47 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Booney wrote:Dutchy wrote:6 teams have a bye on a perfect Autumn weekend still a few weeks before winter, SANFL are clearly no longer intere sted in crowds or interest in the league at a time of the year where it should be gaining momentum.
I believe the fixture over the last 3 years has been as significant as any other negative the competition has been subjected too.
By any other negative, you refer to the AFL reserves, I'm guessing?
Hasn't the program been adjusted to suit them?
by morell » Mon May 15, 2017 12:49 pm
by Booney » Mon May 15, 2017 12:55 pm
morell wrote:I think you're all looking at the tree and ignoring the forest.
The newest generation of paying customers would've grown up with no connection the the SANFL, unless they had family involved or were playing. 18-25 year olds who now go to the AFL in their thousands were born in 1999-1992. A time where the Crows were up and about and Port were the rebellious alternative.
For the first time these people didn't grow up with the SANFL. They grew up with Tony Modra and Gavin Wanganeen.
It's simply progress. There is almost nothing anyone could've done or can do. Blaming this person or that person or this club or that organisation or this schedule or the fact there are AFL Reserves is simply covering up the cold hard truth of it all....
The SANFL is no longer relevant as a product for people to consume and has been eaten up in a competitive marketplace with time poor customers.
by Dutchy » Mon May 15, 2017 1:17 pm
by morell » Mon May 15, 2017 2:08 pm
Nah it's all Port's fault. Those damn lecherous bastards.Dutchy wrote:Now it is AFL and the grassroots footy team.
by tipper » Mon May 15, 2017 3:01 pm
morell wrote:I think you're all looking at the tree and ignoring the forest.
The newest generation of paying customers would've grown up with no connection the the SANFL, unless they had family involved or were playing. 18-25 year olds who now go to the AFL in their thousands were born in 1999-1992. A time where the Crows were up and about and Port were the rebellious alternative.
For the first time these people didn't grow up with the SANFL. They grew up with Tony Modra and Gavin Wanganeen.
It's simply progress. There is almost nothing anyone could've done or can do. Blaming this person or that person or this club or that organisation or this schedule or the fact there are AFL Reserves is simply covering up the cold hard truth of it all....
The SANFL is no longer relevant as a product for people to consume and has been eaten up in a competitive marketplace with time poor customers.
by stan » Mon May 15, 2017 3:48 pm
Jim05 wrote:This bit from Port still makes me chuckle
by morell » Mon May 15, 2017 3:55 pm
tipper wrote:morell wrote:I think you're all looking at the tree and ignoring the forest.
The newest generation of paying customers would've grown up with no connection the the SANFL, unless they had family involved or were playing. 18-25 year olds who now go to the AFL in their thousands were born in 1999-1992. A time where the Crows were up and about and Port were the rebellious alternative.
For the first time these people didn't grow up with the SANFL. They grew up with Tony Modra and Gavin Wanganeen.
It's simply progress. There is almost nothing anyone could've done or can do. Blaming this person or that person or this club or that organisation or this schedule or the fact there are AFL Reserves is simply covering up the cold hard truth of it all....
The SANFL is no longer relevant as a product for people to consume and has been eaten up in a competitive marketplace with time poor customers.
**** me you write some dribble. if anyone is ignoring facts it is yourself.
none of the "anti reserves" posters here have denied that the afl is bigger than the sanfl, nor have they ignored the problems with the "new" generation not growing up with the sanfl being as big as it was. ffs that is part of the problem. by allowing the introduction of the reserves teams, it has made the sanfl effectively afl lite. and there is now no point of difference to it. it was said before their introduction, and it has been proven after it, no one goes to watch the ressies. despite the claims of the afl clubs. and why have a different side in the sanfl when the reserves of their afl side is in it? this, more than anything else, is killing the league.
the sanfl could have remained relevant if they stood alone. make it affordable, and make it accessible. the 18 to 25 year olds could still have been interested in it, some of their mates could be playing sanfl. they could go watch when their afl side is interstate. its a hell of a lot more affordable and accessible than going to adelaide oval. there were options. my kids loved going to see the roosters. but not now. we havent been to a single game in years, and it is all due to the reserves sides.
and notice, none of what i have said is targeting Port? get your chip off your shoulder. those against the ressies dont just blame port. they blame both afl sides, the sanfl, and the leadership of 6 of the 8 sanfl clubs.
by morell » Mon May 15, 2017 4:06 pm
by Booney » Mon May 15, 2017 4:34 pm
morell wrote:I am sorry if that means the SANFL gets slightly compromised, but to me, the AFL teams being competitive and successful is more important than the purity and sanctity of the SANFL competition. None of you will like hearing that, but it's correct nonetheless.
by am Bays » Mon May 15, 2017 4:39 pm
Booney wrote:morell wrote:I am sorry if that means the SANFL gets slightly compromised, but to me, the AFL teams being competitive and successful is more important than the purity and sanctity of the SANFL competition. None of you will like hearing that, but it's correct nonetheless.
by Wedgie » Mon May 15, 2017 4:56 pm
by Ronnie » Mon May 15, 2017 5:10 pm
by Booney » Mon May 15, 2017 5:19 pm
Ronnie wrote:It's an interesting point, if either AFL club in SA turned into a Richmond or Carlton for a decade or more what that would mean for their crowds/support. Adelaide Oval might help but I reckon both would suffer significant drops in attendance. Port don't cope with failure (never had to just had a peek under Primus and that was enough) and the Crows I think have a very soft underbelly I can't see a lot of them sticking it out through thin and thin they just don't strike me as a rusted on supporter group by any means.
by MW » Mon May 15, 2017 5:22 pm
Ronnie wrote:It's an interesting point, if either AFL club in SA turned into a Richmond or Carlton for a decade or more what that would mean for their crowds/support. Adelaide Oval might help but I reckon both would suffer significant drops in attendance. Port don't cope with failure (never had to just had a peek under Primus and that was enough) and the Crows I think have a very soft underbelly I can't see a lot of them sticking it out through thin and thin they just don't strike me as a rusted on supporter group by any means.
by amber_fluid » Mon May 15, 2017 5:26 pm
MW wrote:Ronnie wrote:It's an interesting point, if either AFL club in SA turned into a Richmond or Carlton for a decade or more what that would mean for their crowds/support. Adelaide Oval might help but I reckon both would suffer significant drops in attendance. Port don't cope with failure (never had to just had a peek under Primus and that was enough) and the Crows I think have a very soft underbelly I can't see a lot of them sticking it out through thin and thin they just don't strike me as a rusted on supporter group by any means.
Home crowd never dropped below average of 35k even during lean years. Evenavg near 40k during the Robert Shaw years!
I think they've proven to be good attendees regardless of how the season is going. Obviously has some variances with form.
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