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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Happycamper » Wed May 17, 2017 5:09 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
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Dogwatcher wrote:Is Gawler not country zone?
That's interesting.


Not really interesting, SACA notes Gawler (postcode 5118) as Northern METRO....Barossa postcodes are Northern COUNTRY.


So anyone at a Gawler club can go to any of the 4 clubs nearby? is that what youre saying?
Maybe that needs to get changed for starters to aid the Jets. The Jets try to work with the B&LCA but if all they are doing is developing kids for other clubs you could understand them feeling aggrieved by this. Seems crazy that in a country association not all the clubs are aligned to the same district club. I think there is other clubs in the association aligned with Woodville.


YES!...my understanding is that it goes on residential postcode not clubs.

If a player is below 18 years (on 1st September of the current season) and has not previously played in any SACA Premier Cricket competitions, he/she is eligible to play for the Club in his/her residential qualification or for another Club that shares a metropolitan boundary with this Club, which are listed below:

Northern Districts:
Port Adelaide, Prospect, Tea Tree Gully

In theory anybody in the Northerns country zone (Barossa, etc) who meets the criteria above can also go to ANY of the 4 clubs as listed above.

On this basis Northerns appear to have done very well given bugger all senior players from their country zone appear to be playing senior cricket at other clubs.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed May 17, 2017 5:50 pm

Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed May 17, 2017 6:47 pm

Tony Clifton wrote:Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.


All of the Gawler clubs are in the B&L perhaps that should be reflected in zoning, doesnt sound like it would change anything anyway but IMO any kid in the B&L comp should have to play for the Jets whether they be from Gawler, Gilbert Valley or Mallala it shouldnt matter. The Jets dont deal with individual clubs as such they deal with the Association,
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed May 17, 2017 8:05 pm

If a club like Lobethal switches associations do they change their grade club alignment too?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed May 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Tony Clifton wrote:If a club like Lobethal switches associations do they change their grade club alignment too?


Not sure what that has to do with this but if say for instance they joined the B&L (never going to happen) i would still say they should be aligned with the Jets like every other club should be in the B&L
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Happycamper » Wed May 17, 2017 8:21 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.


All of the Gawler clubs are in the B&L perhaps that should be reflected in zoning, doesnt sound like it would change anything anyway but IMO any kid in the B&L comp should have to play for the Jets whether they be from Gawler, Gilbert Valley or Mallala it shouldnt matter. The Jets dont deal with individual clubs as such they deal with the Association,


The zoning for a kid that lives in Gawler or the Barossa is exactly the same, albeit Gawler is Northern Districts METRO, and the Barossa is Northern Districts COUNTRY.

Both are aligned to ND, however those that meet the criteria (refer previous post) can also go to TTG, Prospect or PA.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed May 17, 2017 8:45 pm

Happycamper wrote:
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Tony Clifton wrote:Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.


All of the Gawler clubs are in the B&L perhaps that should be reflected in zoning, doesnt sound like it would change anything anyway but IMO any kid in the B&L comp should have to play for the Jets whether they be from Gawler, Gilbert Valley or Mallala it shouldnt matter. The Jets dont deal with individual clubs as such they deal with the Association,


The zoning for a kid that lives in Gawler or the Barossa is exactly the same, albeit Gawler is Northern Districts METRO, and the Barossa is Northern Districts COUNTRY.

Both are aligned to ND, however those that meet the criteria (refer previous post) can also go to TTG, Prospect or PA.


Ok how do Harms and Whitelum end up at Uni and Glenelg then?
By the way you referred to Gardhan before as having not played juniors in B&L, he played juniors for Angaston but may have been just before mycricket started
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 17, 2017 9:18 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Happycamper wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.


All of the Gawler clubs are in the B&L perhaps that should be reflected in zoning, doesnt sound like it would change anything anyway but IMO any kid in the B&L comp should have to play for the Jets whether they be from Gawler, Gilbert Valley or Mallala it shouldnt matter. The Jets dont deal with individual clubs as such they deal with the Association,


The zoning for a kid that lives in Gawler or the Barossa is exactly the same, albeit Gawler is Northern Districts METRO, and the Barossa is Northern Districts COUNTRY.

Both are aligned to ND, however those that meet the criteria (refer previous post) can also go to TTG, Prospect or PA.


Ok how do Harms and Whitelum end up at Uni and Glenelg then?
By the way you referred to Gardhan before as having not played juniors in B&L, he played juniors for Angaston but may have been just before mycricket started

Has also been a couple of B&L kids at Kensington in the last few years
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Happycamper » Wed May 17, 2017 10:07 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Happycamper wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:Quite a few of the Gawler clubs used to play in the Para Districts metro competition. When the zones were drawn up these clubs and post codes were included as metro and aligned to Northern Districts.

Over time they have shifted to the Barossa competition. The kids haven't moved houses, their clubs have just changed associations.


All of the Gawler clubs are in the B&L perhaps that should be reflected in zoning, doesnt sound like it would change anything anyway but IMO any kid in the B&L comp should have to play for the Jets whether they be from Gawler, Gilbert Valley or Mallala it shouldnt matter. The Jets dont deal with individual clubs as such they deal with the Association,


The zoning for a kid that lives in Gawler or the Barossa is exactly the same, albeit Gawler is Northern Districts METRO, and the Barossa is Northern Districts COUNTRY.

Both are aligned to ND, however those that meet the criteria (refer previous post) can also go to TTG, Prospect or PA.


Ok how do Harms and Whitelum end up at Uni and Glenelg then?
By the way you referred to Gardhan before as having not played juniors in B&L, he played juniors for Angaston but may have been just before mycricket started


No idea - I assume they asked for a clearance and were granted one by Northerns....how did Harms end up at Glenelg in the first place? yes I know his Daddy played there. Perhaps Northerns were happy to provide a clearance?

Said not sure if Gardham played juniors in the Barossa - thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed May 17, 2017 11:20 pm

I think Whitelum (Sacred Heart) and Harms (PAC) are now boarding in town for school so not practical to pop out to Jets training
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed May 17, 2017 11:25 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:If a club like Lobethal switches associations do they change their grade club alignment too?


Not sure what that has to do with this but if say for instance they joined the B&L (never going to happen) i would still say they should be aligned with the Jets like every other club should be in the B&L

The reason I use it as an example is that the zones were set up (presumably) with populations in mind and allocations for certain clubs.

Lobethal and Woodside were in the Torrens Valley competition which is aligned to East Torrens. They've outgrown that association and moved to the Mt Barker competition, which is aligned to Sturt. However players from Lobethal and Woodside are still linked with East Torrens because those post codes are in East Torrens country zone.

Just because clubs switch to another association doesn't change their post code and they should remain allocated as they were originally. Eg Gawler clubs part of Jets metro zone.

Otherwise that situation above would be a big win for Sturt and a big loss for East Torrens.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Angry Bull » Thu May 18, 2017 10:28 am

what is the current state of play with country zones and their alignment with premier clubs? is it the case that a kid from that region must preference the premier club who is charged with that region but can elect to place elsewhere or is it mandatory (something akin to SANFL) that the kid must play for that club. For instance, i end up with an Angry Calf and he would like to play for TTG rather than Adelaide, who's zone we currently reside in, is there anything in place which prevents that from happening?[/quote]
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are youe referring to the Finlay situation Heater? I have a lot to do with the both young big fellas. All i can say in that regard is the persistence of prospect paid off more than anything. A lot of promises were made. Both lads also involved with NAFC so that was also a consideration, keep them in the same area.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Dogwatcher » Thu May 18, 2017 10:34 am

Happycamper wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Is Gawler not country zone?
That's interesting.


Not really interesting, SACA notes Gawler (postcode 5118) as Northern METRO....Barossa postcodes are Northern COUNTRY.


Interesting that this a further example of Gawler being a town on the edge. Is it country, is it city? It depends on the organisation you're dealing with. Not a gripe, an observation.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Happycamper » Thu May 18, 2017 11:18 am

Tony Clifton wrote:I think Whitelum (Sacred Heart) and Harms (PAC) are now boarding in town for school so not practical to pop out to Jets training


Thanks TC - I was aware of this. In these instances I don't think Northerns were fussed, as there appeared to be too much unwanted baggage associated, which PPP has already made comment on.

Pretty sure the little brother is not at SH but cleared without any fuss.

It would appear the zones do not really mean anything.

Also appears to confirm that Northerns have not lost any/many players from their COUNTRY zone(s) to other senior premier clubs, despite the perception.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Mon May 22, 2017 10:58 pm

Not sure if Hound or backoftheroom can confirm, heard Josh Hoffman from Glenelg is moving to Woodville this season. Reckon Bays would be spewing if true as they have given him every opportunity and were playing him regularly in 1st Grade even though he failed to perform. Was dropped for finals, maybe that's the reason he wants out. His Dad is bit pushy, as per front page story in Advertiser re College cricket and now he is home schooling him.

Also heard Jacob Dickman from Prospect has settled on Woodville, was linked to few Clubs but if you listen to the Prospect boys talk about him and his "character", might be a good fit at Pecker land!

Heard the other Josh Hoffman (ex Port and now Woodville) did his knee playing footy and needs reconstruction, so maybe that's why they targeted Dickman.

Any other player move whispers?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Aeropti » Tue May 23, 2017 12:14 am

Odd fit... Woodville need pace bowlers imo; not more spinners / bats.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Tue May 23, 2017 2:58 am

Stuart Coles retiring plus no Hoffman (the other one) so they're a couple of batters down
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Hound » Tue May 23, 2017 2:56 pm

E2014, The Hound will provide up to date information when it comes to hand :D , would of thought Andrews would play 90% of his games at Pecker land (and bowl a lot of overs) so maybe they are targeting the young fella as a batter with Coles and the other Hoffman out
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:22 pm

The Hound wrote:E2014, The Hound will provide up to date information when it comes to hand :D , would of thought Andrews would play 90% of his games at Pecker land (and bowl a lot of overs) so maybe they are targeting the young fella as a batter with Coles and the other Hoffman out


I am sure you will update us! Think that's true, young Hoffman and Dickman to add to batting depth. Don't know if Weatherley will be back from England, he was a gun and would ne massive loss to. Would put lot of pressure on Andrews and Nielsen.

Heard Dean Sayers been appointed at Port Adelaide as Director of Cricket for all teams, interesting appointment considering his falling out with all Clubs he gets involved with. No doubt he knows his cricket though. Also heard they are close to signing an Assistant Coach/Player who is a huge name, no idea who but they are talking it up!
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Tue May 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Dean Sayers really good appointment. Has a good relationship with Matthew Weeks I'm pretty sure which is the key. I wonder if he'll oversee the juniors as well?

Would be good for grade clubs to have a person overseeing both seniors and juniors with a wholistic view of the club and player development. Easy for clubs to be a bit A Grade-centric.
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