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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby stan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:43 am

Arguing with Morrell is like rolling around with a pig in mud. After an hour or so you understand that the pig likes it.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:48 am

This is true.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:53 am

morell wrote:Coaches votes are biased? How so? Why would Adam Simpson give Ryder ~4.5 votes? What possible benefit does he receive?


A biased statistic is one that is correlated with the other statistics. Nobody is getting 5 coaches votes if they got zero kicks or hit outs so it would be strongly correlated with the other statistics
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:55 am

stan wrote:Arguing with Morrell is like rolling around with a pig in mud. After an hour or so you understand that the pig likes it.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:00 am

bennymacca wrote:
morell wrote:Coaches votes are biased? How so? Why would Adam Simpson give Ryder ~4.5 votes? What possible benefit does he receive?


A biased statistic is one that is correlated with the other statistics. Nobody is getting 5 coaches votes if they got zero kicks or hit outs so it would be strongly correlated with the other statistics
Well of course. I'm not arguing that these data points aren't related. We're trying to remove their biases by aggregating and weighting them. That's the whole point!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:01 am

stan wrote:Arguing with Morrell is like rolling around with a pig in mud. After an hour or so you understand that the pig likes it.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:02 am

Ruck SWARM v2!

Removed Disposal effiency and goals - cos reasons. Added SEN Votes. Used a slightly different standard dev measure as well.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:07 am

When you add it all together. It's about as irrefutable as you can get.

Ryder is the best ruck in the comp as per the empirical ruck stats and aggregated anecdotal expert opinion.

I'll leave ya'll do it. I need to do some work.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:09 am

morell wrote:When you add it all together. It's about as irrefutable as you can get.

Ryder is the best ruck in the comp as per the empirical ruck stats and aggregated anecdotal expert opinion.

I'll leave ya'll do it. I need to do some work.

Thanks for leaving ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:10 am

I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:21 am

mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:31 am

bennymacca wrote:
mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone


73% of football followers believe so.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:36 am

bennymacca wrote:
mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone


not in my world its not
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bertiebeatle » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:42 am

**** me there is a lot of crap on here! I know footy and sport in general means a lot to us all but gee, this is taking it to the next level!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:53 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone


73% of football followers believe so.


Show us your source data and the z factor relating to your stat otherwise I don't believe you ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:53 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone


73% of football followers believe so.


Did you make that up?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:52 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Show us your source data and the z factor relating to your stat otherwise I don't believe you ;)

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:53 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
mots02 wrote:I liked it when people could just have an opinion on footy based on what they saw, what they valued, you know - based on their own footy instinct?


Sorry mate that era is long gone


73% of football followers believe so.


Did you make that up?


I make things up 12% of the time, not on this occasion, I think.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:54 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Show us your source data and the z factor relating to your stat otherwise I don't believe you ;)

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Where's the X factor......... ummm err I mean Z factor? ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:12 pm

morell wrote:Ruck SWARM v2!

Removed Disposal effiency and goals - cos reasons. Added SEN Votes. Used a slightly different standard dev measure as well.

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20+10+10+20+20 =/= 100
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