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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CedeNullis » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:56 am

They told us it was all for the good of SA Footy, they said.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Magellan » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:26 am

CedeNullis wrote:They told us it was all for the good of SA Footy, they said.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DoublebluTiger » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:34 pm

So M. Rucci says in his article about Sam Gray rise to AFL ranks that AFL master plan is a national under age and reserves comp. Talking out of his you know or just a matter of time??
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:09 pm

I've no doubt it's on the cards and probably very soon.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:15 pm

DoublebluTiger wrote:So M. Rucci says in his article about Sam Gray rise to AFL ranks that AFL master plan is a national under age and reserves comp. Talking out of his you know or just a matter of time??


Couldn't happen quick enough for all concerned
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:20 pm

MW wrote:
DoublebluTiger wrote:So M. Rucci says in his article about Sam Gray rise to AFL ranks that AFL master plan is a national under age and reserves comp. Talking out of his you know or just a matter of time??


Couldn't happen quick enough for all concerned

Won't happen for a long time
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogmatic » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:08 am

Jim05 wrote:
MW wrote:
DoublebluTiger wrote:So M. Rucci says in his article about Sam Gray rise to AFL ranks that AFL master plan is a national under age and reserves comp. Talking out of his you know or just a matter of time??


Couldn't happen quick enough for all concerned

Won't happen for a long time

It would happen pretty quick if the NEAFL falls over.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:19 am

I'd expect it to happen in about 5 years. The new stadium in Perth will see the WAFL bent over the table at AFL House and that will just leave the SANFL. I can see Adelaide or Port or both jumping up and down about the conditions that they suffer in the SANFL and the need for a development squad or zones as part of parity with other AFL clubs in other states. This will be pushed by the same AFL circle jerker in the media as a great thing.
We've seen it before, we've heard the bull$hit, spin and lies. They just need to get a few things in place, let a few arguments fester in the media and then push it forward under threat of funding which will pretty well dry up sooner or later anyway.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:30 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:I'd expect it to happen in about 5 years. The new stadium in Perth will see the WAFL bent over the table at AFL House and that will just leave the SANFL. I can see Adelaide or Port or both jumping up and down about the conditions that they suffer in the SANFL and the need for a development squad or zones as part of parity with other AFL clubs in other states. This will be pushed by the same AFL circle jerker in the media as a great thing.
We've seen it before, we've heard the bull$hit, spin and lies. They just need to get a few things in place, let a few arguments fester in the media and then push it forward under threat of funding which will pretty well dry up sooner or later anyway.

Just can't see the AFL stumping up the money to expand list sizes and provide transport around the country when their priority seems to be AFLW.
Not sure what the top up players earn here in the SANFL but the VFL ones are on $200-400 a game, they are not going to accept that if they have to travel to Perth or Adelaide for a weekend so list sizes will have to increase to accommodate them
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:12 am

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Magellan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:24 am

Here it is, if you're not an Advertiser subscriber:

West Adelaide officials dismiss complaint from Crows fans over ‘noisy’ cheer squad

WEST Adelaide’s hot-blooded and vocal cheer squad refuses to be silenced and will maintain the rage in coming SANFL matches despite protests it is too noisy.

West Adelaide chief executive David Grenvold told The Advertiser that complaints against a small group of passionate Bloods fans during Saturday’s game against Adelaide at Richmond Oval was a “little bit precious”.

Adelaide Crows officials allegedly asked six fans in the West cheers squad to stop banging on the ground’s signs after goals during the Bloods’ stirring victory.

“Cheering for your football team is part of the game; a great part of the game,” Grenvold said.

“You yell and cheer when your team scores a goal — we have been doing that for 140 years in SANFL football.

“This is Richmond Oval ... not Wimbledon.”

An SANFL-hired security guard approached West Adelaide football manager Andrew Marks at quarter-time of the game seeking advice on the protocol for dealing with spectator complaints.

The Bloods believed the noise complaint had been prompted by a handful of Crows fans in the 1359-strong crowd taking issue with the diehard West Adelaide supporters repeatedly banging the iron advertising signs behind the northern goal when the Bloods scored a goal.

This continued as the last-placed West Adelaide made a dramatic fightback in the last term to beat the Crows by 21 points for its third win of the SANFL season.

West Adelaide’s reluctance to act followed an unnamed Adelaide Football Club staffer telling ground security the Crows would lodge an official report with the SANFL.

The Adelaide Football Club says the staffer was a private security guard hired by the Crows to patrol the team and its officials at SANFL games.

“It was a flippant remark,” the Crows said in a statement to The Advertiser last night.

“There was no official complaint from the club on the day — and there will be none to the SANFL.”

Crows fans this season, however, have complained to their AFL-based club about being harassed at SANFL games. But Grenvold is unaware of any West Adelaide fan making any offensive remark while cheering.

“We are told the Crows fans were unhappy with the noise,” Grenvold said.

“Our cheer squad is not a juggernaut. We would love to marshal more fans to be part of the cheer squad — and be even more vocal. That is a project for next year.”

The events at Richmond Oval on Saturday follow Adelaide Football Club chief executive Andrew Fagan in May needing to deal with complaints from Crows fans about obscene and inappropriate language used by Melbourne supporters who were guests at the Adelaide Oval.

Fagan insists his directive in an email was not to silence opposition cheering at Crows AFL matches, but to address isolated incidents of unacceptable behaviour.

But it drew the wrath of many, who defended the rights of supporters to cheer their team. The latest episode adds to the unease between the eight traditional SANFL clubs and the AFL reserves units from the Crows and Power.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Magellan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:25 am

By the way, lol at the phrase '1359-strong crowd'.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Spargo » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:35 am

What an embarrassment they are.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:40 am

Whoops, found the discussion. Play on.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:02 am

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Magellan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:06 am

By the way again, I like in the above article how they distinguish the 'eight traditional SANFL clubs' from 'the AFL reserves units from the Crows and Power.'
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:09 am

Mob mentality in full flight...
Don't let me stop your hatred clouding facts.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Ronnie » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:23 am

Who to believe though? The journalist concerned has a certain track record at times. The Crows spin machine is completely untrustworthy. IF there was an incident they would deny deny deny. The Crows are a business first and foremost.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:31 am

MW wrote:Mob mentality in full flight...
Don't let me stop your hatred clouding facts.


Well, what are the facts?
A West official posted on his page that this situation occurred. That post has since been removed. That's enough to cloud the facts.
So what facts do you know?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:36 am

The Bloods believed the noise complaint had been prompted by a handful of Crows fans in the 1359-strong crowd taking issue with the diehard West Adelaide supporters repeatedly banging the iron advertising signs behind the northern goal when the Bloods scored a goal.

This continued as the last-placed West Adelaide made a dramatic fightback in the last term to beat the Crows by 21 points for its third win of the SANFL season.

West Adelaide’s reluctance to act followed an unnamed Adelaide Football Club staffer telling ground security the Crows would lodge an official report with the SANFL.
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