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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby UK Fan » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:31 pm

morell wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
Trader wrote:
morell wrote:I legit don't understand the troll he is trying to make?


It's clear what he's saying.


After round 19, a Saturday 4pm game - our lowest drawing timeslot - vs St Kilda, our average crowd for this year will fall below that from last year.

Declining crowds, despite our rise from 10th to 4th, clearly show that the crowds are becoming bored of the bells and whistles that came with the new oval, and before too long, we will be back to having 25k at games just like the footy park days.
Adelaide Oval will not be the savior of the Port Adelaide Footy Club.

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Now I'm not sure I agree with all of that, but it's clear that's what he's trying to say.




Youll have to forgive Morell the man is very very simple/dumb.

Im glad someone else had to spoon feed him the info this time.

Keep up the good work Morell.

And remember everyone is laughing with you :-)
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I think the opening line of Traders post says it all.

some people have div 7 intelligence I guess.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:32 pm

morell wrote:
mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:In 2014 we averaged 44k and returned a revenue of 48M with a 1.1M loss

In 2016 we averaged 40k and returned a revenue of 52M with a 14k profit.

See where I am going with this? ....


Absolutely... i agree that revenue is not directly correlated to attendances... but you would have to admit that its a pretty significant factor? and if attendances are declining that at some stage they will contribute significantly to the clubs capacity to bring in a profit?
Sure, I would agree, if they were actually declining.

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nice graph... kinda looks like a decline to me
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby UK Fan » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:42 pm

mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:
mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:In 2014 we averaged 44k and returned a revenue of 48M with a 1.1M loss

In 2016 we averaged 40k and returned a revenue of 52M with a 14k profit.

See where I am going with this? ....


Absolutely... i agree that revenue is not directly correlated to attendances... but you would have to admit that its a pretty significant factor? and if attendances are declining that at some stage they will contribute significantly to the clubs capacity to bring in a profit?
Sure, I would agree, if they were actually declining.

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nice graph... kinda looks like a decline to me


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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:45 pm

Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:49 pm

morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


yep using the trend line from 1997 it has gone up.

but surely 2014 reset the bench mark? from that point is a clear decline.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:52 pm

mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


yep using the trend line from 1997 it has gone up.

but surely 2014 reset the bench mark? from that point is a clear decline.
So they're not declining now? Make up your mind.

Why not pick from Ken Hinkley's tenure? Why not pick since we recruited Ollie Wines? Why not pick any number of metrics? Surely, surely! You're not just plucking sections of the data to suit your agenda?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby MW » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:54 pm

F..k not this again...
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:57 pm

morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


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Falling both pre and post the oval move.
Falling faster in the modern era too.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:57 pm

UK Fan wrote:I think the opening line of Traders post says it all.

some people have div 7 intelligence I guess.

Frankenstein brain hurts bad.

Hahahaha!!!!!
I am sorry, Trader is much better at deciphering rubbish than I am. I tend to give people credit and assume they're not making incredibly stupid arguments - I thought there was no possible way someone would be trying to make the point you were and figured there must be some sort of missing component to your argument.

Alas, I was wrong. You were in fact trying to argue that Port's Crowds were declining and it would impact on revenue.

Completely my fault, I agree. My Div 7 intelligence got the better of me.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:58 pm

morell wrote:
mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


yep using the trend line from 1997 it has gone up.

but surely 2014 reset the bench mark? from that point is a clear decline.
So they're not declining now? Make up your mind.

Why not pick from Ken Hinkley's tenure? Why not pick since we recruited Ollie Wines? Why not pick any number of metrics? Surely, surely! You're not just plucking sections of the data to suit your agenda?


i think we should go back to 1870... got some stats on those years?

2014 , the first year at AO set a new benchmark. On a decline since then. No Agenda, just a couple of facts... i know how much you love dem facts :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:59 pm

morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


there is a clear disruption in the stats due to adelaide oval. so they should be treated differently.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:03 pm

bennymacca wrote:
morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


there is a clear disruption in the stats due to adelaide oval. so they should be treated differently.
Ohhhh right. So when "disruptions" like what many posters have mentioned in this thread don't suit the agenda - they're dismissed. Timeslots, price, weather, bandwagon etc

When they *do* suit the agenda, they're valid?

You cant pick and choose.

Data is data. Ports crowds are fine. Ports revenue is fine. Port. Are. Fine.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:05 pm

Trader wrote:
morell wrote:Get your trend line out you utter spuds.

but we'll rely on safooty.net posters "eye"


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Falling both pre and post the oval move.
Falling faster in the modern era too.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:09 pm

MW wrote:F..k not this again...


Join in mate and go round in circles with us! :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:10 pm

The fascination continues. The only thing I can put it down to is jealousy.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:19 pm

I found a picture of Morrell


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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm

Finally a post that is actually accurate, well done daysofourlives
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Where do I send the $1 Morrell? ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 pm

For you? I'll forgo the cover charge.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby UK Fan » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:29 pm

morell wrote:
mots02 wrote:
morell wrote:Blah blah blah

Year Revenue
2011 $37,017,885
2012 $36,649,694
2013 $41,600,000
2014 $48,219,475
2015 $50,794,644
2016 $52,768,461

Thanks for your concern everyone.


Yearly PnL?
Year Revenue P/L EXPENDITURE
2011 $37,017,885 -$877,971 $38 mill
2012 $36,649,694 -$2,117,071 $39 mill
2013 $41,600,000 -$1,690,000 $43 mill
2014 $48,219,475 -$1,091,999 $49 mill
2015 $50,794,644 $211,302 $50 mill
2016 $52,768,461 $14,840 $52 mill

Thank **** we got out of Crow Park ay? ;)


Let's us not forget the all important expenditure. As It appears to be spiralling.

With an increase via the China investment you'd assume again this season.

Plus an Extra $2 mill required in player wages next season.

Can we get a trend line on it ??? :-)
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