Port Adelaide 2017

[The Bedge]

wtf was Seb Ross doing?

Watching that gif I get the impression he thought/expected the player on the right (Dunstan?) to pick up Gray as he veered past, instead he watched the ball and in that split second Gray managed to get a metre on them and run clear.

[heater31]

wtf was Seb Ross doing?

Watching that gif I get the impression he thought/expected the player on the right (Dunstan?) to pick up Gray as he veered past, instead he watched the ball and in that split second Gray managed to get a metre on them and run clear.

I want to know WTF the St Kilda corridor guard was doing.....at least if they were in position Gray would have been forced to find an option much earlier than he did.

[amber_fluid]

I don't think you can criticise the Saints too much...... it was just a perfect tap to a seriously good player who was on the run and he finished it.

[The Bedge]

Sounds like :
In - Hombsch, Pittard, Young, Amon
Out - Austin ( Omit ), Wingard ( inj ), White ( Omit ) and either Polec or Atley.

Got the ins and 3 of the 4 outs right, little surprised with the Houston omission, he must be very unlucky to be replaced by Pittard.

Thoughts on this now Booney? Thought Pittard was very good Saturday night.

[Booney]

Boop

Absolute top shelf.

Could this be the goal of the year?

[morell]

wtf was Seb Ross doing?

Watching that gif I get the impression he thought/expected the player on the right (Dunstan?) to pick up Gray as he veered past, instead he watched the ball and in that split second Gray managed to get a metre on them and run clear.

I want to know WTF the St Kilda corridor guard was doing.....at least if they were in position Gray would have been forced to find an option much earlier than he did.

Well done, the first person I've seen that spotted where the issue for St Kilda was. Nothing Ross could've done really but I think it was Roberton? ... he isn't that vision but he got dragged too close to the contest out the back. Probably the right spot if it's the second quarter and you're trying to get the quick hands to move the ball forward, but at that moment he just needed to tread water and stay where he was. Which at the time of the throw in was about 5m to the side of where Gray kicked it.

Had he done that, Gray would've run straight into him and been forced to bomb long, where St Kilda obviously had the numbers.

[MW]

No

[Booney]

wtf was Seb Ross doing?

Watching that gif I get the impression he thought/expected the player on the right (Dunstan?) to pick up Gray as he veered past, instead he watched the ball and in that split second Gray managed to get a metre on them and run clear.

I want to know WTF the St Kilda corridor guard was doing.....at least if they were in position Gray would have been forced to find an option much earlier than he did.

Well done, the first person I've seen that spotted where the issue for St Kilda was. Nothing Ross could've done really but I think it was Roberton? ... he isn't that vision but he got dragged too close to the contest out the back. Probably the right spot if it's the second quarter and you're trying to get the quick hands to move the ball forward, but at that moment he just needed to tread water and stay where he was. Which at the time of the throw in was about 5m to the side of where Gray kicked it.

Had he done that, Gray would've run straight into him and been forced to bomb long, where St Kilda obviously had the numbers.

They're all to blame, not one of them made any contact with Gray, not even an arm across the body, a grab of the jumper, nothing.

[The Bedge]

They're all to blame, not one of them made any contact with Gray, not even an arm across the body, a grab of the jumper, nothing.

They were discussing this yesterday on the radio as well, even giving away a free kick for holding would've been a winning result for STK.

Literally a dozen different scenarios could've played out and they win 99% of them - unfortunately the one scenario that sees them lose played out.

Fair last two minutes from Port though, was good to watch, and fitting that a champion like Gray won the game for them.

[morell]

Yeah but at the time you wouldn't of wanted to give a holding free kick away either. It's pretty tough to stop an AFL midfielder, moving at pace, from getting on the end of a tap like that when it's all so perfectly executed.

Gray started boundary line side and sprinted to the back side when the ball was in the air and Ryder hit the absolute perfect tap. Was nothing much he could've done other than scrag him and risk putting it into the umps hands (which in retrospect probably would've favoured the Saints)

Hickey could've made it more of a contest too perhaps.

[Booney]

Yeah but at the time you wouldn't of wanted to give a holding free kick away either. It's pretty tough to stop an AFL midfielder, moving at pace, from getting on the end of a tap like that when it's all so perfectly executed.

Gray started boundary line side and sprinted to the back side when the ball was in the air and Ryder hit the absolute perfect tap. Was nothing much he could've done other than scrag him and risk putting it into the umps hands (which in retrospect probably would've favoured the Saints)

Hickey could've made it more of a contest too perhaps.

Anything would have favoured them with 17 seconds on the clock.

[morell]

Probably, but had we got a free kick who knows, might've spotted a target sideways and then a quick dart lead with a shot on goal. Maybe a milked 50m. Anything could happen. Then we'd all be on here saying "as if you give away a free kick with 17 seconds to go!"

If I were coach I would prefer to leave it out of the umps hands and not risk that at all. You lose clearances sometimes. It happens. Their structure *after* that to allow Gray to run his full measure and have a shot on goal is where the puzzle lies.

[Booney]

Probably, but had we got a free kick who knows, might've spotted a target sideways and then a quick dart lead with a shot on goal. Maybe a milked 50m. Anything could happen. Then we'd all be on here saying "as if you give away a free kick with 17 seconds to go!"

If I were coach I would prefer to leave it out of the umps hands and not risk that at all. You lose clearances sometimes. It happens. Their structure *after* that to allow Gray to run his full measure and have a shot on goal is where the puzzle lies.

Not really, they had numbers back for the quick kick from the throw in protecting space, this was based on having some faith in the stoppage to not allow an easy out, wasn't the fault of those in the back 50 and I imagine the St's review would be ok with where the bulk of the numbers were defensively but scathing on the ease of the out from the stoppage. This includes nobody protecting the corridor at the stoppage itself, not one Saint was on the defensive side or in the corridor.

Anyway, Ryder...

[morell]

No no agree, it was not the defensive 50's fault at all. I wish i can get a screen grab, there was a St Kilda player, pretty sure it was Roberton, that when the throw in was just about to happen was standing right in the line of where Gray ran. He made the call to go to the back of the contest instead of protecting the space.

[morell]

Anyway, Ryder...

RIP Photobucket

[human_torpedo]

Easy in hindsight, but I agree a free kick for blocking Grays run would have been preferable. Dunstan and Ross were both caught napping as Gray ran to space, space which was open in the corridor of a boundary throw in 60m out from goal with 20 seconds to play.. Inexplicable stoppage defending

Ryders tap was one for the ages, but the fact that space was there for the taking with such ease for Gray is what Richardson would be so flat with..

A free kick at least allows StK to drop back and guard what we assume would be a long high ball into F50, but like McGovern showed yesterday, that can be effective, especially when one C Dixon is lurking.. you'd rather try and defend a high ball with over a dozen blokes at the fall than allow one of the best clearance players and finishers to waltz into goal on the run from 50..

As I said easy in hindsight, but Ryder/Gray again show just how good they can be together..

[morell]

Here you go, you can see in the first pic, as the ball was thrown in the circled St Kilda player was in the perfect spot, but he decided to move to the contest. Had he stayed where he was, St Kilda would've been a 99% chance to win IMO.

Which would be the same odds had they given away a free kick probably, but without the additional risk of umps making odd calls.

Ross could've been tighter but this player (who is it?) was the main one at "fault", IMO.

[mots02]

wtf was Seb Ross doing?

Watching that gif I get the impression he thought/expected the player on the right (Dunstan?) to pick up Gray as he veered past, instead he watched the ball and in that split second Gray managed to get a metre on them and run clear.

I want to know WTF the St Kilda corridor guard was doing.....at least if they were in position Gray would have been forced to find an option much earlier than he did.

Yep thats the bit that baffled me... how the Saints didnt have someone guarding the inside, defensive spot is mind boggling.

[Booney]

@morell your gifs aren't visible to the rest of us.

[Spargo]

@morell your gifs aren't visible to the rest of us.

Pity his posts are...