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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:22 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


If Hawthorn weren't up and running at the same time as you guys, you would've been dominating.

I agree with Boonbag, anything over a 75% win ratio for a prolonged time is dominance in my eyes.

Geelong dominated in the early 90's but never won a flag.


Disagree mate.
West Coast dominated the early 90's and have 2 flags to prove it.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:25 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


Well, they have. Won in '05, GF in '06, finals in '08, missed in '09, semi final '10, semi '11, won in '12, prelim in '13, GF in '14, semi in '15, GF in '16.

You've played in finals all but two years since '05 for 5 GF's and 2 flags. That's as "dominant" as anyone bar Geelong and Hawthorn in that time, as I said, there can be more than one team who dominates an era.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:32 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Disagree mate.
West Coast dominated the early 90's and have 2 flags to prove it.

The two flags definitely count for domination in this instance, pretty similar ratios though from 91 to 95 inclusive.

WCE 76-31-1
GEEL 73-35

I was wrong, the early 90's were good to me!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:36 pm

Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


Well, they have. Won in '05, GF in '06, finals in '08, missed in '09, semi final '10, semi '11, won in '12, prelim in '13, GF in '14, semi in '15, GF in '16.

You've played in finals all but two years since '05 for 5 GF's and 2 flags. That's as "dominant" as anyone bar Geelong and Hawthorn in that time, as I said, there can be more than one team who dominates an era.

Nah fair enough. I wasn't arguing with you... I just thought premierships were the barometer... play on
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:39 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


Well, they have. Won in '05, GF in '06, finals in '08, missed in '09, semi final '10, semi '11, won in '12, prelim in '13, GF in '14, semi in '15, GF in '16.

You've played in finals all but two years since '05 for 5 GF's and 2 flags. That's as "dominant" as anyone bar Geelong and Hawthorn in that time, as I said, there can be more than one team who dominates an era.

Nah fair enough. I wasn't arguing with you... I just thought premierships were the barometer... play on


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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Wedgie » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:44 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


If Hawthorn weren't up and running at the same time as you guys, you would've been dominating.

I agree with Boonbag, anything over a 75% win ratio for a prolonged time is dominance in my eyes.

Geelong dominated in the early 90's but never won a flag.

Geelong hardly dominated, won one minor premiership in 92 and had the same amount of losses as Footscray, Collingwood and West Coast that year in the minor round.
Consistent? Yes
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby the milky bar kid » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:44 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
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amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:Certainly did, but it doesn't mean there couldn't be another dominant side in the same era, we just didn't translate that into finals victories.

But to suggest winning 16 of 22 ( 2001 ) 18 of 22 ( 2002 ), 18 of 22 ( 2003 ) and 17 of 22 ( 2004 ) isn't dominating the competition is just anti-Port Adelaide jargon from regular Port bashers. Across 4 years to suggest winning 69 of 88 (nearly 80% win rate ) isn't "dominant" is just trolling. I'm used to it though, that's why it's great that there's a "friend" and "foe" function on here.


What it suggests is you choked when it mattered!
Do you get a medal for dominating the minor round these days?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClelland_Trophy


What part of medal didn't you get?

They finished minor premiers we know that but they didn't finish it off.


You get a trophy, not a medal! :lol:

Yes, I know the trophy isn't an important one, yes ultimately success is based on premierships. Yes the original post was tongue in cheek.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:50 pm

Wedgie wrote:Geelong hardly dominated, won one minor premiership in 92 and had the same amount of losses as Footscray, Collingwood and West Coast that year in the minor round.
Consistent? Yes
Dominant? No


Yeah, I just loved watching them in action in that time.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:55 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


Well, they have. Won in '05, GF in '06, finals in '08, missed in '09, semi final '10, semi '11, won in '12, prelim in '13, GF in '14, semi in '15, GF in '16.

You've played in finals all but two years since '05 for 5 GF's and 2 flags. That's as "dominant" as anyone bar Geelong and Hawthorn in that time, as I said, there can be more than one team who dominates an era.

Nah fair enough. I wasn't arguing with you... I just thought premierships were the barometer... play on


Well you don't win premierships if you don't play finals, so I'd say continually making finals is a dominant performance in a 16/17/18 team competition.

Unless of course you've got an advantage by playing by a different set of rules to everyone else, then it's a farce.

All comes down to the interpretation of the word "dominant"..
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:02 pm

Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Never said Port weren't great, and this anti port or bashing as you put it... gee!
I just believe winning flags is a way of defining dominance... Going by that same process as you the swans have dominated for nearly a decade. I certainly don't think we have,


Well, they have. Won in '05, GF in '06, finals in '08, missed in '09, semi final '10, semi '11, won in '12, prelim in '13, GF in '14, semi in '15, GF in '16.

You've played in finals all but two years since '05 for 5 GF's and 2 flags. That's as "dominant" as anyone bar Geelong and Hawthorn in that time, as I said, there can be more than one team who dominates an era.

Nah fair enough. I wasn't arguing with you... I just thought premierships were the barometer... play on


Well you don't win premierships if you don't play finals, so I'd say continually making finals is a dominant performance in a 16/17/18 team competition.

Unless of course you've got an advantage by playing by a different set of rules to everyone else, then it's a farce.

All comes down to the interpretation of the word "dominant"..
One thing is for sure. A team that made finals once and and a prelim isn't as good as a team that made finals 4 years in a row with 3 of them being a prelim and a victorious GF.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:36 pm

Thanks captain obvious ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:39 pm

amber_fluid wrote:Thanks captain obvious ;)

Well you'd think so wouldn't you.

And yet, here we are.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:59 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
morell wrote:^^^

and it appears the continual underrating of Port's dominance in the early 2000's continues.

Dominance is proven by premierships, multiple... Brisbane dominated the early 2000's.


Certainly did, but it doesn't mean there couldn't be another dominant side in the same era, we just didn't translate that into finals victories.

But to suggest winning 16 of 22 ( 2001 ) 18 of 22 ( 2002 ), 18 of 22 ( 2003 ) and 17 of 22 ( 2004 ) isn't dominating the competition is just anti-Port Adelaide jargon from regular Port bashers. Across 4 years to suggest winning 69 of 88 (nearly 80% win rate ) isn't "dominant" is just trolling. I'm used to it though, that's why it's great that there's a "friend" and "foe" function on here.


What it suggests is you choked when it mattered!
Do you get a medal for dominating the minor round these days?


Did Adelaide "dominate" 05/06?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:09 am

Stay tuned for a SWARM update today everyone, the coaches votes are out for round 20.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:47 am

I don't know about anyone else but I can barely contain myself.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:49 am

Booney wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I can barely contain myself.

I emailed everyone at work, we have organised pizza, drinks and the big screen in the board room, everyone is super pumped.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:53 am

I think I will just log off :lol:


Changes to the Port team this week?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:55 am

Brodlach wrote:I think I will just flog off :lol:


Changes to the Port team this week?

EFA ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:56 am

Oi! I resemble that.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Spargo » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:17 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I think I will just flog off :lol:


Changes to the Port team this week?

EFA ;)

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