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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mots02 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:06 pm

Booney wrote:Out - Hombsch Trengove Monfries Young
In - Howard Wingard Ah Chee Houston

Ext bench has Neade Bonner White added.


Hmmm Port going shorter rather than taller... i'd like Morell's opinion on this!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:08 pm

mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:Out - Hombsch Trengove Monfries Young
In - Howard Wingard Ah Chee Houston

Ext bench has Neade Bonner White added.


Hmmm Port going shorter rather than taller... i'd like Morell's opinion on this!


He's just plotting a graph now, he'll get back to us all shortly.
Actually his SWARM analysis is due as well :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:36 pm

Hombsch is injured
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby UK Fan » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:50 pm

Hopefully Port fans now realise Trengove isn't playing defence each week because Bassett doesn't want him in defence.

Can't say Ports defence hasn't improved without him looking at the stats.

Trengove is slow clumsy and gets caught ball watching. About as useful as a three legged dog.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby RustyCage » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:37 pm

Jacko's spot is an interesting one, as a forward Big Bill is a better prospect now and long term, he isn't needed in the ruck to the 2016 extent, and there TJ, TC and Hombsch are better down back than he is. Jack of all trades but master of none
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:09 am

mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:Out - Hombsch Trengove Monfries Young
In - Howard Wingard Ah Chee Houston

Ext bench has Neade Bonner White added.


Hmmm Port going shorter rather than taller... i'd like Morell's opinion on this!


No Grundy for Collingwood so Cox will have to ruck, probably Moore do the chop out. I think Ryder will have SWARM on his mind all weekend knowing he'll have Cox as his opposition for most of the day.

We'll play Howard and Dixon forward on Dunn and Goldsack, they'll have Moore and Reid forward with Clurey and Jonas following them.

Biggest out for them is Wells, they rarely win without him. We'll also give Powell-Pepper a break, certain of it.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby MW » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:12 am

Port will be 8 goals to 1 up at qu time
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:00 am

Hey fam, sorry for the delay!

As predicted with the Round 20 coaches votes in, Sam Jacobs moves into the #1 spot in our beloved SWARM

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:29 am

amber_fluid wrote:
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:Out - Hombsch Trengove Monfries Young
In - Howard Wingard Ah Chee Houston

Ext bench has Neade Bonner White added.


Hmmm Port going shorter rather than taller... i'd like Morell's opinion on this!


He's just plotting a graph now, he'll get back to us all shortly.
Actually his SWARM analysis is due as well :lol:
I'm working on something, stay tuned fam.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 am

The extended bench is "

Powell-Pepper, White, Amon, Neade, Johnson, Bonner, Ah Chee with 3 to be omitted.

The three highlighted are my "guess". Bonner to play this week.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bertiebeatle » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:35 am

You must be walking around with a stiffy this morning Morrell with Dougal in for JT. Surprised Ken did it! Happy, but surprised
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:37 am

bertiebeatle wrote:You must be walking around with a stiffy this morning Morrell with Dougal in for JT. Surprised Ken did it! Happy, but surprised


Always a tough ask.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby hawks21 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:48 am

UK Fan wrote:Hopefully Port fans now realise Trengove isn't playing defence each week because Bassett doesn't want him in defence.

Can't say Ports defence hasn't improved without him looking at the stats.

Trengove is slow clumsy and gets caught ball watching. About as useful as a three legged dog.

Worth letting him go as a free agent? Carlton and Richmond apparently interested?
Might get a late 2nd round pick compo?
Pittard is another interesting one who has been in and out of the side all year.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:11 am

hawks21 wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Hopefully Port fans now realise Trengove isn't playing defence each week because Bassett doesn't want him in defence.

Can't say Ports defence hasn't improved without him looking at the stats.

Trengove is slow clumsy and gets caught ball watching. About as useful as a three legged dog.

Worth letting him go as a free agent? Carlton and Richmond apparently interested?
Might get a late 2nd round pick compo?
Pittard is another interesting one who has been in and out of the side all year.


Trengove, in '14 and '15 took the high key forward, Carlile the deep key forward as Booby's arse wouldn't let him cover the ground Trengove did. In '16 when Jacko led the ruck we had Austin in defence for the first dozen or so games before a bad ankle kept him out the side, that gave Clurey his chance to play on the oppositions tallest forward, he's taken that role and run with it to make it his own. I think the back half looked settled at the end of last year with Clurey, Hombsch and Jonas and that gave Hinkley food for thought on where to use Trengove as the back up ruckman and then......he arrived at second tall forward.

Fair to say that Trengove's form has dropped off as he's been played out of position, he's not a natural forward who reads the play and it would be poor form to drop either Clurey or Hombsch to make way for Trengove in defence. It's only that Collingwood don't have a tall forward line that Trengove goes out this week after being dropped, with Hombsch out injured against any other side Trengove would be in the key defensive post this weekend, again.

I'm very loyal ( perhaps too much so ) and I'd be disappointed to see Trengove leave and it was the signatures of Trengove and Boak that kept this side from falling apart in '12 / '13, they both showed real loyalty to the club and to see Trengove go would be hard to swallow. Having said that, with Clurey (23), Hombsch (24) and Jonas (26) holding down spots, Austin (22) in the SANFL as a key defender, Howard (21) perhaps capable of playing both ends as a tall ( he's been CHB for the Magpies recently ) it might be time to move Trengove on and make some cap space as well as making room for another young tall to be drafted and develop. Not many would know Trengove has been one of our highest paid with his current contract back ended and in the top end of our pay packets.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:28 am

We've been too short pretty much all year:

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also interesting to see how Ken reacts after a loss or two.

Bring in the runners!!!

We also looked the best in Rounds 1 and 2 an low and behold would you look at that :shock:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:31 am

hawks21 wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Hopefully Port fans now realise Trengove isn't playing defence each week because Bassett doesn't want him in defence.

Can't say Ports defence hasn't improved without him looking at the stats.

Trengove is slow clumsy and gets caught ball watching. About as useful as a three legged dog.

Worth letting him go as a free agent? Carlton and Richmond apparently interested?
Might get a late 2nd round pick compo?
Pittard is another interesting one who has been in and out of the side all year.

Would be happy to lose both of them for the right price.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:31 am

Nice, there's 13 teams below us on the ladder, care to tell us their average weight? It's just as relevant.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:35 am

Booney wrote:Nice, there's 13 teams below us on the ladder, care to tell us their average weight? It's just as relevant.

#SoftDraw

Its only relevant for us and our results. We looked our best when we were at our tallest for the year.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:55 am

The times we have played with an average height or above we have:

Birdie
Par
Bogey
Double Bogey

Beaten Sydney
Smashed Fremantle
Smashed Brisbane

Narrow loss to West Coast
Narrow loss to Geelong
Smashed Hawthorn

The times we have played with a lower than average height we have:

Beaten by Adelaide
Beaten by GWS
Smashed Carlton
Smashed Gold Coast

Destroyed by Essendon
Beaten Brisbane
Beaten Collingwood

Beaten by Richmond
Beaten West Coast
Smashed North Melbourne
Beaten by Melbourne
Narrow win vs St Kilda
Destroyed by Adelaide
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Bum Crack » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:59 am

morell wrote:The times we have played with an average height or above we have:

Beaten Sydney
Smashed Fremantle
Smashed Brisbane
Narrow loss to West Coast
Narrow loss to Geelong
Smashed Hawthorn

So does that mean your other 7 wins have been with a below average height? Smashed some ripper teams in that lot above.
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