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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:43 pm

Also like to see the list where it says the quality of outs too...
Swans have had probably three quality outs...

Malceski - swans didn’t want to pay the amount he wanted
Mummy - forced out in the buddy deal
Mitchell - he wanted out.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
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bennymacca wrote:when you hear a player spell it out like that it makes perfect sense really.

basically time to retire, but if he can get one or two years at a place close to home, why not try and make it happen. you are a long time retired

got no issue with players his age wanting to do this


I'm surprised Geelong are keen on him to be honest. They're still thinking this senior group has one more flag in them.


two losing prelims. why not have a crack at it. as freo, west coast, st kilda and even hawthorn have found out, the premiership window can slam shut very quickly. may as well have one last crack at it


Mackie and Lonergan closed it on their way out.

Finished 2nd both years so no denying the quality of the group, but bundled out both years in the prelims by sides who lost the GF means they're close but not quite up to the top couple. ( Might have been lucky in '16, beat the Hawks in the 1st final by 2 points IIRC ).

I don't see Ablett making up for the loss of Mackie and Lonergan and Taylor going 32 and a banged up Selwood 30.


And they looked VERY slow in the last final, which I expected them to win. Not sure how a guy that's 33/34 and had issues with shoulders and soft tissue is going to improve their list. AND they'll have to give something considerable up to get him.

Motlop is already just about gone and they'll lose another to the GC.

Plus, will Ablett play all 22 games? Will he do a Wells and be expected to play 15? I'll have money on them not making finals next year.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:29 pm

Ablett is still a gun and if it doesn't cost the Cats too much they should trade for him. Nobody will be able to go with GAJ in the forward line, it is in his blood to kick goals.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:33 pm

Brodlach wrote:That’s different, either get traded or delisted I know what I would want to take. Not many $300,000 jobs available for the unemployed


Yeah like I said against their will, is there any other scenario?
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:39 pm

LMA wrote:Ablett is still a gun and if it doesn't cost the Cats too much they should trade for him. Nobody will be able to go with GAJ in the forward line, it is in his blood to kick goals.


Gary Ablett Career
Season Num MT Team K Avg H Avg D Avg M Avg HO Avg T Avg FF FA G Avg B SC Rat Avg
2017 9 14 Gold Coast 266 19 196 14 462 33 49 3.5 0 0 77 5.5 13 18 8 0.6 11 59 1663 118.8
2016 9 14 Gold Coast 203 14.5 175 12.5 378 27 28 2 0 0 85 6.1 19 19 10 0.7 12 72 1417 101.2
2015 9 6 Gold Coast 94 15.7 43 7.2 137 22.8 12 2 0 0 28 4.7 15 9 10 1.7 3 63 567 94.5
2014 9 15 Gold Coast 254 16.9 227 15.1 481 32.1 30 2 0 0 91 6.1 35 23 241.6 7 151 1787 119.1

I may be wrong, but I don't think he's going to wind the clock back 4 years and kick 24 goals in 3/4 of a season. Wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong of course!

He has only kicked 40 goals or more once, in 2010.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:42 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
LMA wrote:Ablett is still a gun and if it doesn't cost the Cats too much they should trade for him. Nobody will be able to go with GAJ in the forward line, it is in his blood to kick goals.


Gary Ablett Career
Season Num MT Team K Avg H Avg D Avg M Avg HO Avg T Avg FF FA G Avg B SC Rat Avg
2017 9 14 Gold Coast 266 19 196 14 462 33 49 3.5 0 0 77 5.5 13 18 8 0.6 11 59 1663 118.8
2016 9 14 Gold Coast 203 14.5 175 12.5 378 27 28 2 0 0 85 6.1 19 19 10 0.7 12 72 1417 101.2
2015 9 6 Gold Coast 94 15.7 43 7.2 137 22.8 12 2 0 0 28 4.7 15 9 10 1.7 3 63 567 94.5
2014 9 15 Gold Coast 254 16.9 227 15.1 481 32.1 30 2 0 0 91 6.1 35 23 24 1.6 7 151 1787 119.1

I may be wrong, but I don't think he's going to wind the clock back 4 years and kick 24 goals in 3/4 of a season. Wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong of course!

He has only kicked 40 goals or more once, in 2010.


Cmon man that's as a pure midfielder
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Maybe. But now he's going to be a 60 goal forward? I can't see it.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:49 pm

gadj1976 wrote:Maybe. But now he's going to be a 60 goal forward? I can't see it.


Maybe, probably not. I'm just an old style footballer where in years gone by he would be the perfect flanker. Bulldogs and Richmond have taught me in the last few years I don't know shit :D
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:31 pm

LMA wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Maybe. But now he's going to be a 60 goal forward? I can't see it.


Maybe, probably not. I'm just an old style footballer where in years gone by he would be the perfect flanker. Bulldogs and Richmond have taught me in the last few years I don't know shit :D


So LMA, we both don't know anything about anything. Why are we here again ;-) ?
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:43 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
LMA wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Maybe. But now he's going to be a 60 goal forward? I can't see it.


Maybe, probably not. I'm just an old style footballer where in years gone by he would be the perfect flanker. Bulldogs and Richmond have taught me in the last few years I don't know shit :D


So LMA, we both don't know anything about anything. Why are we here again ;-) ?


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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Wedgie » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:58 pm

I think people are confusing players that want to leave and players that are given the arse. Yes, us Geelong fans are distraught we couldnt hang onto players like Dean Gore and Taylor Hunt who are included in those stats not to mention players like james Kelly and Stevie j who Geelong chose to move on.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby stan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:49 pm

Brodlach wrote:Just saw this,

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And people say Adelaide have a retention issue
Should almost be a ban for bringing facts on here ;)
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:39 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
LMA wrote:Ablett is still a gun and if it doesn't cost the Cats too much they should trade for him. Nobody will be able to go with GAJ in the forward line, it is in his blood to kick goals.


Gary Ablett Career
Season Num MT Team K Avg H Avg D Avg M Avg HO Avg T Avg FF FA G Avg B SC Rat Avg
2017 9 14 Gold Coast 266 19 196 14 462 33 49 3.5 0 0 77 5.5 13 18 8 0.6 11 59 1663 118.8
2016 9 14 Gold Coast 203 14.5 175 12.5 378 27 28 2 0 0 85 6.1 19 19 10 0.7 12 72 1417 101.2
2015 9 6 Gold Coast 94 15.7 43 7.2 137 22.8 12 2 0 0 28 4.7 15 9 10 1.7 3 63 567 94.5
2014 9 15 Gold Coast 254 16.9 227 15.1 481 32.1 30 2 0 0 91 6.1 35 23 241.6 7 151 1787 119.1

I may be wrong, but I don't think he's going to wind the clock back 4 years and kick 24 goals in 3/4 of a season. Wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong of course!

He has only kicked 40 goals or more once, in 2010.

He hasn't spent a year in a forward pocket or full forward before either. If he plays he will kick arse.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:29 am

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:when you hear a player spell it out like that it makes perfect sense really.

basically time to retire, but if he can get one or two years at a place close to home, why not try and make it happen. you are a long time retired

got no issue with players his age wanting to do this


I'm surprised Geelong are keen on him to be honest. They're still thinking this senior group has one more flag in them.


two losing prelims. why not have a crack at it. as freo, west coast, st kilda and even hawthorn have found out, the premiership window can slam shut very quickly. may as well have one last crack at it


Mackie and Lonergan closed it on their way out.

Finished 2nd both years so no denying the quality of the group, but bundled out both years in the prelims by sides who lost the GF means they're close but not quite up to the top couple. ( Might have been lucky in '16, beat the Hawks in the 1st final by 2 points IIRC ).

I don't see Ablett making up for the loss of Mackie and Lonergan and Taylor going 32 and a banged up Selwood 30.


Our window is shut because Lonergan and Mackie quit? Seriously? Both players had their moments last year but both were pretty obviously cooked. I expect a bit more run from Geelong's defence going forward. With Matty Scarlett on board we will be well served in the backline and the development of players. As for a 'banged up' Selwood...are you implying that Selwood is finished as well? Long bow there mate, I'm fairly sure he'll be in better shape come March than he was this September. Ablett replaces Motlop, a fair win there. Buzza comes into the forward line a bit more next season for mine and Harry goes down back oh yeah he's finished as well. 8)

We will contend again next year. Window open, cool breeze on Gazza's bald head. ;)

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby JK » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:34 am

Should be prepared to offer up a bit for him then ;)
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:37 am

Looking forward to fox footy this arvo. I'm sure the Port fans are too with 2007 GF being shown
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Jim05 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:40 am

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby valleys07 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Looking forward to fox footy this arvo. I'm sure the Port fans are too with 2007 GF being shown


Most are still watching replays of 2017 apparently.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:10 pm

Don't know if it has been mentioned, but Essendon have signed Adelaide CC quick Luke Lavender as a Cat B rookie.

202cm athletic kid, be interesting to see how he goes.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby heater31 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:16 pm

The Bedge wrote:Don't know if it has been mentioned, but Essendon have signed Adelaide CC quick Luke Lavender as a Cat B rookie.

202cm athletic kid, be interesting to see how he goes.
Not sure Adelaide can claim him as he committed to the Bombers 12 months ago and didn't play cricket last year at all...
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