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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Spargo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:42 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-17/afls-transgender-call-on-aflw-hopeful

thoughts on this one gents?

guaranteed 'she' will be allowed to play, the AFL have shown how progressive they are already and how can they say no?

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:45 pm

Spargo wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-17/afls-transgender-call-on-aflw-hopeful

thoughts on this one gents?

guaranteed 'she' will be allowed to play, the AFL have shown how progressive they are already and how can they say no?

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Common sense prevails IMO, watch out for the backlash.

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby bennymacca » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:03 pm

I like to think I’m usually pretty socially progressive but transgender athletes in sport is something I haven’t formed a solid opinion on.

If it is something they had from birth then I think it’s fine (ie castor semenya) but athletes getting a sex change to compete is murkier imo.

The fact that she is physically bigger and would he dominant clearly comes into it too - if she was 5 ft tall I doubt it would be as big of a deal. But it should be the same “deal”

Hence I don’t know what my position is. Leaning towards they shouldn’t be allowed but It’s not something I’ve read up much about
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:06 pm

Booney wrote:
morell wrote:
Booney wrote:
morell wrote:Problem lies when someone has actually transitioned. Like I believe this woman has.

If she has had the operation taken all the hormones and has been tested to be within female limits for testosterone, play on in my book.


"Within female limits for testosterone", I assume that's naturally occurring levels?

There's an Olympic standard I believe and yeah I think it's something like that


But these levels wouldn't be naturally occurring would they so it's not really "like for like", is it?
I am really not sure sorry.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby bertiebeatle » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:48 pm

bennymacca wrote:I like to think I’m usually pretty socially progressive but transgender athletes in sport is something I haven’t formed a solid opinion on.

If it is something they had from birth then I think it’s fine (ie castor semenya) but athletes getting a sex change to compete is murkier imo.

The fact that she is physically bigger and would he dominant clearly comes into it too - if she was 5 ft tall I doubt it would be as big of a deal. But it should be the same “deal”

Hence I don’t know what my position is. Leaning towards they shouldn’t be allowed but It’s not something I’ve read up much about


Exactly the same possie as Benny. A lot of clarity needed on the subject and I'm not educated in this area to really form an opinion on
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Jim05 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:38 pm

Melbourne must of wanted Watts gone pretty bad to take pick 31 and still pay part of his wage
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:30 pm

So now having seen this Hannah woman. With as much respect as possible....

She's got some transitioning to do yet.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby nuggety goodness » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:35 pm

morell wrote:So now having seen this Hannah woman. With as much respect as possible....

She's got some transitioning to do yet.
Call me a mixogynist but the picture looks like a dude wearing a wig...


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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:37 pm

There are more feminine footballers at Ingle Farm
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby nuggety goodness » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:38 pm

morell wrote:There are more feminine footballers at Ingle Farm
One of the Farmers i know has bigger boobs too! [emoji6]

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:12 pm

She has only been transitioning over the past 2 years and has competed for Australia as a male, albeit in Handball, so obviously has sporting pedigree.
A long way to go for her I think and anyone who thinks it's discriminatory has rocks in their head, she would be that far ahead of any girl in the AFLW
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:14 pm

LMA wrote:She has only been transitioning over the past 2 years and has competed for Australia as a male, albeit in Handball, so obviously has sporting pedigree.
A long way to go for her I think and anyone who thinks it's discriminatory has rocks in their head, she would be that far ahead of any girl in the AFLW

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:19 pm

morell wrote:So now having seen this Hannah woman. With as much respect as possible....

She's got some transitioning to do yet.


Yep, could be the next Josh Jenkins
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:29 pm

LMA wrote:
morell wrote:So now having seen this Hannah woman. With as much respect as possible....

She's got some transitioning to do yet.


Yep, could be the next Josh Jenkins


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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:33 pm

Jim05 wrote:Melbourne must of wanted Watts gone pretty bad to take pick 31 and still pay part of his wage


Gold Coast must be playing hard ball again for GAJ, you think the Cats would've got Ablett and Watts with 19 and 22, they might want both picks for Ablett
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:55 pm

LMA wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Melbourne must of wanted Watts gone pretty bad to take pick 31 and still pay part of his wage


Gold Coast must be playing hard ball again for GAJ, you think the Cats would've got Ablett and Watts with 19 and 22, they might want both picks for Ablett

Gold coast want a player from our starting 22 along with pick 19 or 22

Id be happy if we didnt get him
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 pm

Jim05 wrote:Melbourne must of wanted Watts gone pretty bad to take pick 31 and still pay part of his wage


Same deal with Lobbe at Port
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:03 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
LMA wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Melbourne must of wanted Watts gone pretty bad to take pick 31 and still pay part of his wage


Gold Coast must be playing hard ball again for GAJ, you think the Cats would've got Ablett and Watts with 19 and 22, they might want both picks for Ablett

Gold coast want a player from our starting 22 along with pick 19 or 22

Id be happy if we didnt get him


I think most footy fans would love to see Ablett back at the Cats but could be a risk at his age, especially if it costs too much.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:05 pm

Jim05 wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:Why would the AFL be interested in assisting Geelong land Ablett? He may only play one year and disappear from the industry like his old man.

To give the Suns a leg up?

Bingo!
Said this days ago.


Cause Suns havn't had enough AFL leg ups? :lol:
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:16 am

MW wrote:
LMA wrote:
morell wrote:So now having seen this Hannah woman. With as much respect as possible....

She's got some transitioning to do yet.


Yep, could be the next Josh Jenkins


Not sure who you're insulting

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