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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:04 pm

They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:12 pm

morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:14 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote::shock: :shock: :shock:
Booney wrote:Ablett 2 year deal.


Gibbs 4 years :lol: hat happened to the one year at a time when post 30?

Why the **** did Crows trade for Gibson? Didn't realise they could get him for free?


Gibbs is currently 28 mate
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:17 pm

29 by the time the season starts, plus 4 years =
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:18 pm

Dutchy wrote:
morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?
Only a certain number of spots on the list. Youd assume they know what they've got planned by now

It would've been a courtesy for Gibson. imagine waiting the however many weeks not knowing for certain that you've got a spot. Would be awful.

Actually think it was a classy thing to do from Adelaide.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:23 pm

Dutchy wrote:
morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?


what things would change between now and then that would make us think shit we have to use pick 91.

I went back as far as the year 2000 and the only person taken at 91 or later was Dean Polo to St Kilda, who was a delisted player from Richmond

12 and 39 plus Greenwood Rookie upgrade 77 will be all we do.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:24 pm

morell wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?
Only a certain number of spots on the list. Youd assume they know what they've got planned by now

It would've been a courtesy for Gibson. imagine waiting the however many weeks not knowing for certain that you've got a spot. Would be awful.

Actually think it was a classy thing to do from Adelaide.


also allows them to pick him up without having other clubs potentially try to poach
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:25 pm

Dutchy wrote:29 by the time the season starts, plus 4 years =


Boomer says hi lol
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LMA » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:19 pm

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:29 by the time the season starts, plus 4 years =


Boomer says hi lol


Exactly, we're talking 29-30 year olds who have been in a professional football environment for half their life, they have had the resources, facilities and personnel at hand. I don't see it as such a bad thing, if players have the want to play and are still playing good footy there's no reason they can't play up to 35ish.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:15 am

The Crows obviously wanted Gibson as a top up and weren't confident he'd be in the draft at 91 still. Reckon there also was some good will there also which makes me think is there something that both Adelaide and North know that no one else knows in say 12 months time....
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Brodlach » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:15 am

Means he can move over earlier and get settled before pre season starts with his family. Some people look for things that aren’t there
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby stan » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:50 am

Brodlach wrote:Means he can move over earlier and get settled before pre season starts with his family. Some people look for things that aren’t there
Just your standard trolling. You guys had a pretty solid tradr period.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:53 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:The Crows obviously wanted Gibson as a top up and weren't confident he'd be in the draft at 91 still. Reckon there also was some good will there also which makes me think is there something that both Adelaide and North know that no one else knows in say 12 months time....

I wonder if he'll be eligible for a health care card on the wage he'd be getting?
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:55 am

Holy shit. If you weren’t paying full attention for the last day of the AFL Trade & Free Agency period, you missed… well, pretty much everything.

The trade period is done and dusted and thus concludes another silly season for the league, and as the dust is settling clubs are marvelling at their respective hauls.

‘Course not every club can be viewed as geniuses during this period. For every list manager riding high on the swell of victory, several others have to tremble beneath them after being walked on harder than an elephant’s doormat.

Who did well? Who shit the bed? Who were the winners, the losers, and the absolute rank spuds during this year’s Trade Period?

PEDESTRIAN.TV‘s resident footy-knower put his big, oval-shaped brain to work to find out.

WINNERS

ADELAIDE

Gain: Bryce Gibbs, Sam Gibson, 12, 39, 77, future picks.
Lose: Charlie Cameron, Jake Lever, Harrison Wigg, 16, 35, 73, 91, future picks.

Hot damn did that Grand Final loss ever piss Adelaide off. After fielding 22 undercooked noodles against Richmond, the Crows have apparently decided the time for ******* around is done. Showed several want aways the door and brought in some midfield grunt and a high first-round draft pick to boot. There’s a little less flash at West Lakes, but make no mistake about it: They want that ****’ cup.

BRISBANE

Gain: Charlie Cameron, Luke Hodge, 15, 18 (compensation) 40, 44, 52.
Lose: Tom Rockliff, Josh Schache, 12, 20, 43, 75.

Lost a star midfielder in Tom Rockliff and a burgeoning gun in Josh Schache, but countered that by luring Luke Hodge out of his lengthy two-day retirement and coaxed a very handy player back home to them for once. Still hold the first pick in the draft. For once, Queensland footy is sunny.

CARLTON

Gain: Matthew Lobbe, Matt Kennedy, Darcy Lang, 10, 30, 73, future picks.
Lose: Bryce Gibbs, 40, 58, 77, 95, future picks.

Bryce Gibbs isn’t a huge loss for a side developing via a long road, but the extra high draft picks are a bonus. Despite Darren Milburn‘s best efforts, Steve Silvagni‘s brain is as sharp and shrewd as ever.

ESSENDON

Gain: Devon Smith, Adam Saad, Jake Stringer, 25, future pick.
Lose: 11, 30, future picks.

If there isn’t a new storey on list manager Adrian Dodoro‘s house by the time he gets home today, the Bombers have cooked it. Stunning trade period from a previously inflexible club who were seemingly adamant that a gun midfield could be grown in a planter box at the Essendon Bowlo. It can’t, and thus the Bombers brought in three of the highest profile trades in exchange for virtually nothing. Adam Saad is, quite quietly, an extremely good get. Flag window is suddenly wide open.

FREMANTLE

Gain: Nathan Wilson, Brandon Matera, 2, 66, 71, 82.
Lose: Lachie Weller, Hayden Crozier, Harley Balic, 57, future picks.

A ho-hum trade period that suddenly became stunning after the Dockers hypnotised Gold Coast into giving up PICK 2 in the dying seconds of the trade period. The Dockers now hold two of the first five picks in the draft. Unbelievable areas.

GEELONG

Gain: Gary Ablett, 24, 58, future picks.
Lose: Steven Motlop, Darcy Lang, 53, future picks.

Lost a couple of jets but (re-)gained the prodigal son. Gary Ablett returns to the Cattery to finish off his storied career in a veteran engine room that now sports 19 All-Australian selections, 5 premierships, 3 Brownlow Medals, and 6 AFLPA MVP awards combined. Ablett, Selwood, Dangerfield. Ordinarily you’d only get that in a rep side. Geelong’s next 24 months are scary.

PORT ADELAIDE

Gain: Tom Rockliff, Jack Watts, Steven Motlop, 61, future picks.
Lose: Jackson Trengrove, Jarman Impey, Brendan Ah Chee, Aaron Young, Logan Austin, Matthew Lobbe, 31, 67, future picks.

For all the talk of Essendon being the “destination club” of the trade period, the Power quietly accumulated a trio of players as good as – if not better than – any group of incoming players seen in recent memory. Couple that with the club taking an absolute broom to their list, sweeping out rogue spuds left, right, and centre, and you’ve got a very lean-looking Port Adelaide list. Depth might be an issue, but that’s what Floaties are for.

LOSERS

COLLINGWOOD

Gain: Sam Murray, future pick.
Lose: Future pick.

Might as well have stayed home and polished the McGuire boys’ boots. A virtual non-factor.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Gain: 11, 28, 57, future picks.
Lose: Devon Smith, Nathan Wilson, Matt Kennedy, 25, 71, future pick.

Another year, another trade period featuring GWS swapping out solid players for higher draft picks; an occurrence as inevitable as the Earth’s orbit. Sunrise, sunset. Giant out, first round pick in. Snore.

HAWTHORN

Gain: Jarman Impey, 43, 67, 75.
Lose: Luke Hodge, 33, 44, 61, future pick..

Didn’t have much to work with at all given their **** of an effort last year in which they traded the house, the car, the dog, the shack, the kids, two gold watches, a middling handjob and a set of steak knives in exchange for a kid with the crookest knees and a man named Tyrone. Let Hodgey saunter off to Brisbane with a smile and a hug, which was the right thing to do.

RICHMOND

Gain: 20, 25, 53.
Lose: 15, 52, future pick.

Still hungover and still trying to clean up the mess left on Swan St. Can be forgiven if they forgot this week was on at all.

SYDNEY SWANS

Gain: Future pick.
Lose: Sam Murray, future pick.

No.

ABSOLUTE RANK SPUDS

GOLD COAST

Gain: Lachie Weller, Harrison Wigg, Aaron Young, 19, 41, 50, 54, future picks.
Lose: Adam Saad, Gary Ablett, Brandon Matera, 2, 21, 24, 26, 37, 39, future picks.

Was on the verge of having a good trade period until they mystifyingly gave up pick two for a 21-year-old bag of toothpicks. What the living **** are they even thinking there. Lost Gaz and an GC original and wound up with not much in return. Boo.

MELBOURNE

Gain: Jake Lever, Harley Balic, 31, 35, future picks.
Lose: Jack Watts, 10, future picks.

Cut the cord on Jack Watts about 4 years too late and rightfully got a half-sucked Farmer’s Union Iced Coffee in return. Burned two first-round draft picks (TWO FIRST-ROUND DRAFT PICKS) on young defender – not a mid, a *defender* – Jake Lever who now has to win 8 Brownlow’s to justify the price paid for him. Not good.

NORTH MELBOURNE

Gain: 46, 91, future picks.
Lose: Sam Gibson, future picks.

Bragged openly and wantonly about a war chest so large it could’ve funded the East-West Link but got sweet **** all when the going got tough. They didn’t even get near a target. I’d be shocked if anyone even let them into the building. Dunce of a club.

ST. KILDA

Gain: Logan Austin, future picks.
Lose: 59, 63, future pick.

Wanted: Nat Fyfe, Josh Kelly, Dustin Martin. Got: Logan Austin. Holy hell that drive to Seaford must be a monumental pain in the ass.

WEST COAST

Gain: Brendan Ah Chee, 21, 26, 37, future picks.
Lose: 50, future picks.

For reasons that are beyond all conventional wisdom, decided to load up on second-round picks for a draft that’s almost universally agreed to tail off significantly after pick 15. What are they smoking? What do they know that everyone else doesn’t? Are we gonna get a Moneyball-type movie about the Eagles in a few years with Brad Pitt playing Adam Simpson?

WESTERN BULLDOGS

Gain: Jackson Trengrove, Hayden Crozier, Josh Schache, 16, 25, future pick.
Lose: Jake Stringer, 28, 41, 82, future pick.

Hard to think of a way they could’ve cooked the Jake Stringer trade any worse. Practically strapped him to a trebuchet at the end of the season and jettisoned him into the sun, but then turned around and tried to get a King’s Ransom for him. Might set the world record for fastest time a bluff has ever been called. Essendon played them like a fiddle. Their only saving grace was a consolation first-round pick sourced from Carlton at the very death. It’s a kennel from hell RN.

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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:57 am

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:29 by the time the season starts, plus 4 years =


Boomer says hi lol


Its you guys who made a club rule of one year contracts post 30
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:58 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:The Crows obviously wanted Gibson as a top up and weren't confident he'd be in the draft at 91 still. Reckon there also was some good will there also which makes me think is there something that both Adelaide and North know that no one else knows in say 12 months time....


They could get him as a DFA before the draft
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby MW » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:00 am

They probably weren't using pick 91 in the draft anyway or whatever it was.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Dutchy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:00 am

bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?


what things would change between now and then that would make us think shit we have to use pick 91.

I went back as far as the year 2000 and the only person taken at 91 or later was Dean Polo to St Kilda, who was a delisted player from Richmond

12 and 39 plus Greenwood Rookie upgrade 77 will be all we do.


And if one of your players quits (Jaensch) or they want to make a late delisting? these options are now off the table when they could have gotten him for nothing!!!
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:15 am

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:29 by the time the season starts, plus 4 years =


Boomer says hi lol


He's an exception, not the rule.
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Re: 2017 Off-Season

Postby mots02 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:18 am

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
morell wrote:They pretty much did, they weren't going to use 91, just meant it got sorted earlier and provided Gibson with some clarity.


plenty of other ways to do that, what is things change and they need to use it?


what things would change between now and then that would make us think shit we have to use pick 91.

I went back as far as the year 2000 and the only person taken at 91 or later was Dean Polo to St Kilda, who was a delisted player from Richmond

12 and 39 plus Greenwood Rookie upgrade 77 will be all we do.


And if one of your players quits (Jaensch) or they want to make a late delisting? these options are now off the table when they could have gotten him for nothing!!!


Relax... the crows traded for a player that you didn't want for a pick they were never going to use!

I'm sure the well paid crows staff considered all of the permutations that you put forward.

Crows happy, Gibson happy - North get pick 91 to add to their war chest to bring that long list of trade targets they successfully secured... ..
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