INS and OUTS for 2019

[Dutchy]

Brett Eddy having a kick already.

http://www.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-af ... 84e0cc8250

being the NT News, it may not have actually happened...

[Wedgie]

It can't be the NT news, no mention of a croc hanging off his schlong or a dildo up his butt. Fake news.

[Booney]

With all of the AFL players leaving the Magpies as well as the SANFL players listed as leaving, does anyone know where the fill in players for the magpies can come from. eg Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows.

As far as I know it's no different to any other club.

Incorrect answer. The PAM have no recruiting zone. Its a serious question. Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows? The PAM have an academy structure. Do players come out of it and where do these players come from.

It is a good question Goddy11.
I would like this and other questions about their current state of existence answered, namely, why is it they are allowed the Academy when the Crows are not, and then why they were allowed specialised SANFL players ala Summerton, Sharrod and co. before they had to include top ups in their side? I have asked this question a few times now, and there has been no answer forthcoming.

@therisingblues

Port Adelaide were offered and accepted different conditions to the Adelaide FC in regards to the clubs having their AFL players aligned to one SANFL side as Port Adelaide were, rightly, seen as a foundation member of the SANFL. There was also the fact Port Adelaide had numerous players already in their program from local clubs and our once held recruiting zones, these players were, by the SANFL and the commission, given the opportunity to remain players for the PAFC.

It was my understanding, and that of some others on here, that either 2017 or 2018 was to be the last year the PAFC had a side in the SANFL reserves, our academy, as we call it. I can't find anything to confirm that was part of our conditions of "entry", though.

At the time of the One Club initiative it was clear that many of our SANFL based players would not get a game at league level and opted at that point to move on to other, greener pastures, for some. Fair enough. Some, admirably, held on for as long as they could through loyalty to the club and their mates. Some more so the latter. Ultimately lack of opportunity has seen them move on. All the best to them.

With no metro or country zones to source "top up" players from Port have done what they can to keep the likes of Gray, Sharrad, Rudloff and co. There's an article in my local rag about it this week. It notes the PAFC will have a team playing in the SANFL reserves in 2018. It's my view ( nothing to back this up ) that we won't in 2019.

Why? At the moment we still have some players in the academy side that were part of the club in 2014. This includes Summerton and Young who are yet to commit to the club for next year and some boys from the formerly held Port Adelaide zones like Cooper, Davidson, Deeley-Godfrey, Agius, Miller, Zavrl etc as well as some father-son aligned like Northeast, Phelps, Ginever, Foster, Mahney. Most of these boys are Rosewater, Port Districts, North Haven etc products and pre-2014 were in our development squads meaning they ( for now ) are and always were aligned to the PAFC.

The academy must also has the ability to offer playing spots to players from other SANFL club zones who are not in the program of their local SANFL club. I believe at least two of our academy side are from WWT. How that works, I don't know. I can only assume the WWTFC has allowed them to join the PAFC academy side as they may have been "not required".

Having said all that with the likes of Sharrod, Rudloff, Reynolds and Gray moving on this year, a handful of players yet to commit ( Summerton and Young ) and I think a few headed overseas it's going to be a fairly thin list of "top ups" that the club will be able to source to fill spots in the Magpies league side from the reserves/academy.

I think it will be the last year we have a team in the SANFL reserves and will, like Adelaide, probably put out an advertisement for a "top up" player try outs, if we don't hold onto those who were in the Port Adelaide zone previously and ultimately that resource will dry up.

Link - http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... b41e7fdab5

Link to AFC's advertisement - http://www.afc.com.au/news/2017-11-10/c ... s-for-2018

[Mickyj]

With all of the AFL players leaving the Magpies as well as the SANFL players listed as leaving, does anyone know where the fill in players for the magpies can come from. eg Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows.

As far as I know it's no different to any other club.

Incorrect answer. The PAM have no recruiting zone. Its a serious question. Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows? The PAM have an academy structure. Do players come out of it and where do these players come from.

It is a good question Goddy11.
I would like this and other questions about their current state of existence answered, namely, why is it they are allowed the Academy when the Crows are not, and then why they were allowed specialised SANFL players ala Summerton, Sharrod and co. before they had to include top ups in their side? I have asked this question a few times now, and there has been no answer forthcoming.

Port Adelaide were offered and accepted different conditions to the Adelaide FC in regards to the clubs having their AFL players aligned to one SANFL side as Port Adelaide were, rightly, seen as a foundation member of the SANFL. There was also the fact Port Adelaide had numerous players already in their program from local clubs and our once held recruiting zones, these players were, by the SANFL and the commission, given the opportunity to
remain players for the PAFC.

It was my understanding, and that of some others on here, that either 2017 or 2018 was to be the last year the PAFC had a side in the SANFL reserves, our academy, as we call it. I can't find anything to confirm that was part of our conditions of "entry", though.

At the time of the One Club initiative it was clear that many of our SANFL based players would not get a game at league level and opted at that point to move on to other, greener pastures, for some. Fair enough. Some, admirably, held on for as long as they could through loyalty to the club and their mates. Some more so the latter. Ultimately lack of opportunity has seen them move on. All the best to them.

With no metro or country zones to source "top up" players from Port have done what they can to keep the likes of Gray, Sharrad, Rudloff and co. There's an article in my local rag about it this week. It notes the PAFC will have a team playing in the SANFL reserves in 2018. It's my view ( nothing to back this up ) that we won't in 2019.

Why? At the moment we still have some players in the academy side that were part of the club in 2014. This includes Summerton and Young who are yet to commit to the club for next year and some boys from the formerly held Port Adelaide zones like Cooper, Davidson, Deeley-Godfrey, Agius, Miller, Zavrl etc as well as some father-son aligned like Northeast, Phelps, Ginever, Foster, Mahney. Most of these boys are Rosewater, Port Districts, North Haven etc products and pre-2014 were in our development squads meaning they ( for now ) are and always were aligned to the PAFC.

The academy must also has the ability to offer playing spots to players from other SANFL club zones who are not in the program of their local SANFL club. I believe at least two of our academy side are from WWT. How that works, I don't know. I can only assume the WWTFC has allowed them to join the PAFC academy side as they may have been "not required".

Having said all that with the likes of Sharrod, Rudloff, Reynolds and Gray moving on this year, a handful of players yet to commit ( Summerton and Young ) and I think a few headed overseas it's going to be a fairly thin list of "top ups" that the club will be able to source to fill spots in the Magpies league side from the reserves/academy.

I think it will be the last year we have a team in the SANFL reserves and will, like Adelaide, probably put out an advertisement for a "top up" player try outs, if we don't hold onto those who were in the Port Adelaide zone previously and ultimately that resource will dry up.

Link - http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... ews-story/

Link to AFC's advertisement - http://www.afc.com.au/news/2017-11-10/c ... s-for-2018[/quote]

Thanks Booney that’s why I started this by saying I wasn’t looking for a Port put down
If you look through WWTFC seconds and juniors from 2017 you will find that Port father sons are Eagles players now .
The clubs you mentioned are now Eagles zones unless the sanfl changes the zones again like in part of the old port zone going from the eagles to the dogs . And an old west Torrens zone taken away given to Glenelg coming back to the eagles .

[Booney]

PORT ADELAIDE has appointed Matthew Lokan as senior coach of the Magpies on a three-year contract.

The 34-year-old says, after four years with Glenelg, he’s excited to return to Port Adelaide where he played 112 SANFL games.

“My career began at Alberton and I can’t wait to get back there,” he said.

“It’s an honour to join the list of great people who’ve coached the Magpies down the years.

“I’d like to thank Glenelg for the opportunity they gave me to coach. I learned so much and thoroughly enjoyed my time there but the chance to work full-time alongside an AFL program is one I couldn’t afford to pass up.”

Port Adelaide’s General Manager of Football, Chris Davies, says the appointment enables former Magpies coach Chad Cornes to move into an AFL development role where he will work closely with the club’s young forwards.

“This is a natural career pathway for Chad to shift his focus to a specific group of young players with whom he already has strong relationships,” Davies said.

“We canvassed a number of potential replacements but are delighted to sign someone of Matthew’s quality.

“We’ve followed his career for some time. Most recently he’s shown as senior coach of Glenelg that he has the skills needed to drive the Magpies’ football program.”

Lokan made his SANFL debut with the Magpies in 2002 and at the end of that season was selected by Collingwood with pick 70 in the National Draft.

He played 46 AFL games, including the 2003 Grand Final, during three seasons with Collingwood.

In 2006 he returned to Port Adelaide to play with the Magpies where he remained until the end of the 2011 season.

After two seasons as the playing coach of the Belconnen Magpies in the North East Australian Football League, Lokan was appointed to the role of Football Manager at the Glenelg Football Club in 2014 before taking over as senior coach the following season.

He lifted the reigning wooden-spooner to ninth with four wins in 2015, seventh with six wins in 2016 and seventh with eight wins in 2017.

Cornes highlighted professional development as the key factor behind his change in roles.

“My two years in charge of the Magpies taught me so much about coaching and about myself as well,” he said.

“This opportunity though allows me to focus on getting the best out of a core group of young players, and also to work more closely with the rest of the AFL assistant coaches to get a better understanding of what those roles demand.”

Port Adelaide narrowly missed the SANFL finals in Cornes’ first season at the helm before making the 2017 Grand Final only to lose by one point to reigning premier Sturt.

Cornes will have a match-day role with the Magpies while continuing to act as runner for the Power.

[UK Fan]

PORT ADELAIDE has appointed Matthew Lokan as senior coach of the Magpies on a three-year contract.

The 34-year-old says, after four years with Glenelg, he’s excited to return to Port Adelaide where he played 112 SANFL games.

“My career began at Alberton and I can’t wait to get back there,” he said.

“It’s an honour to join the list of great people who’ve coached the Magpies down the years.

“I’d like to thank Glenelg for the opportunity they gave me to coach. I learned so much and thoroughly enjoyed my time there but the chance to work full-time alongside an AFL program is one I couldn’t afford to pass up.”

Port Adelaide’s General Manager of Football, Chris Davies, says the appointment enables former Magpies coach Chad Cornes to move into an AFL development role where he will work closely with the club’s young forwards.

“This is a natural career pathway for Chad to shift his focus to a specific group of young players with whom he already has strong relationships,” Davies said.

“We canvassed a number of potential replacements but are delighted to sign someone of Matthew’s quality.

“We’ve followed his career for some time. Most recently he’s shown as senior coach of Glenelg that he has the skills needed to drive the Magpies’ football program.”

Lokan made his SANFL debut with the Magpies in 2002 and at the end of that season was selected by Collingwood with pick 70 in the National Draft.

He played 46 AFL games, including the 2003 Grand Final, during three seasons with Collingwood.

In 2006 he returned to Port Adelaide to play with the Magpies where he remained until the end of the 2011 season.

After two seasons as the playing coach of the Belconnen Magpies in the North East Australian Football League, Lokan was appointed to the role of Football Manager at the Glenelg Football Club in 2014 before taking over as senior coach the following season.

He lifted the reigning wooden-spooner to ninth with four wins in 2015, seventh with six wins in 2016 and seventh with eight wins in 2017.

Cornes highlighted professional development as the key factor behind his change in roles.

“My two years in charge of the Magpies taught me so much about coaching and about myself as well,” he said.

“This opportunity though allows me to focus on getting the best out of a core group of young players, and also to work more closely with the rest of the AFL assistant coaches to get a better understanding of what those roles demand.”

Port Adelaide narrowly missed the SANFL finals in Cornes’ first season at the helm before making the 2017 Grand Final only to lose by one point to reigning premier Sturt.

Cornes will have a match-day role with the Magpies while continuing to act as runner for the Power.

Old news

[Jim05]

Let’s hope some of the Bays magic has rubbed off on Lokan and he leads the Magpies nowhere

[am Bays]

We're the winners out of all this!!

[robranisgod]

It has been known for sometime that Chris Schmidt has quit Westies but it was announced today that he will be playing coach of North Albury.

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/5053 ... s-schmidt/

[Booney]

We're the winners out of all this!!

Small fish the sweetest, hey?

[Rising Power]

With all of the AFL players leaving the Magpies as well as the SANFL players listed as leaving, does anyone know where the fill in players for the magpies can come from. eg Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows.

As far as I know it's no different to any other club.

Incorrect answer. The PAM have no recruiting zone. Its a serious question. Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows? The PAM have an academy structure. Do players come out of it and where do these players come from.

In terms of recruiting 18-22 year olds who haven't been in the AFL system for 2+ years and are not from interstate, it's the same as any other club.

[Mickyj]

With all of the AFL players leaving the Magpies as well as the SANFL players listed as leaving, does anyone know where the fill in players for the magpies can come from. eg Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows.

As far as I know it's no different to any other club.

Incorrect answer. The PAM have no recruiting zone. Its a serious question. Can they grab players from other SANFL clubs or do the players come from minor league teams like the Crows? The PAM have an academy structure. Do players come out of it and where do these players come from.

In terms of recruiting 18-22 year olds who haven't been in the AFL system for 2+ years and are not from interstate, it's the same as any other club.

I guess the end of 2017 season has shown what happens to those players three snapped up by the eagles and one to another team forgotten which team . Couple years ago they went to Sturt and won flags
Guess playing in the sanfl seconds Comp isn’t worth the small amounts of league games played or that’s what it seems to outsiders .

[wedgetail]

Angus Coxon ex Eagles u/18 was a PAM academy player in 2017 and played a few reserves games. Apparently surplus to requirements at the Eagles. He is unsure of his movements next year ATM.

[therisingblues]

Thanks for having a go at answering that question Booney.
Basically it boils down to:
Port is a foundation club.
Port has some players from local clubs playing in their ranks.

I don't understand what is so compelling about either of those reasons that SANFL clubs would vote the Magpies all the benefits of being affiliated with an AFL side, AND the ability to call on top quality, permanent top up players to fill the gaps.

Foundation club? Yes, it is a complete travesty how a foundation club should be turned into a reserves side. But if they choose to do this to themselves it is a bit hypocritical to then use that as an excuse for a higher quality top up. What benefit was it to the SANFL directors that Port is a foundation club?
Players from local clubs playing for the Magpies? There are plenty of other SANFL clubs they could be playing for.

Obviously, there should be some consequence for changing the DNA of your football club. You accept being a reserves side, you then accept the rules that govern such an entity. Why didn't the SANFL directors just say, "Sorry guys, if you want to act like a traditional club, you cannot be a reserves side. It is one or the other!"

As I said, thanks for having a go at answering the question Booney. But I must be missing something. Those reasons reflect no benefit to the SANFL clubs IMO. Just a cry of sympathy from the Power, and then the SANFL clubs bought it?

[Mickyj]

Thanks for having a go at answering that question Booney.
Basically it boils down to:
Port is a foundation club.
Port has some players from local clubs playing in their ranks.

I don't understand what is so compelling about either of those reasons that SANFL clubs would vote the Magpies all the benefits of being affiliated with an AFL side, AND the ability to call on top quality, permanent top up players to fill the gaps.

Foundation club? Yes, it is a complete travesty how a foundation club should be turned into a reserves side. But if they choose to do this to themselves it is a bit hypocritical to then use that as an excuse for a higher quality top up. What benefit was it to the SANFL directors that Port is a foundation club?
Players from local clubs playing for the Magpies? There are plenty of other SANFL clubs they could be playing for.

Obviously, there should be some consequence for changing the DNA of your football club. You accept being a reserves side, you then accept the rules that govern such an entity. Why didn't the SANFL directors just say, "Sorry guys, if you want to act like a traditional club, you cannot be a reserves side. It is one or the other!"

As I said, thanks for having a go at answering the question Booney. But I must be missing something. Those reasons reflect no benefit to the SANFL clubs IMO. Just a cry of sympathy from the Power, and then the SANFL clubs bought it?

Good post good points
Home and away games Port Magpies have very very few fans turning up I hear the so called loyal fans say Woodville oval is to far to drive to .

[Booney]

Thanks for having a go at answering that question Booney.
Basically it boils down to:
Port is a foundation club.
Port has some players from local clubs playing in their ranks.

I don't understand what is so compelling about either of those reasons that SANFL clubs would vote the Magpies all the benefits of being affiliated with an AFL side, AND the ability to call on top quality, permanent top up players to fill the gaps.

Foundation club? Yes, it is a complete travesty how a foundation club should be turned into a reserves side. But if they choose to do this to themselves it is a bit hypocritical to then use that as an excuse for a higher quality top up. What benefit was it to the SANFL directors that Port is a foundation club?
Players from local clubs playing for the Magpies? There are plenty of other SANFL clubs they could be playing for.

Obviously, there should be some consequence for changing the DNA of your football club. You accept being a reserves side, you then accept the rules that govern such an entity. Why didn't the SANFL directors just say, "Sorry guys, if you want to act like a traditional club, you cannot be a reserves side. It is one or the other!"

As I said, thanks for having a go at answering the question Booney. But I must be missing something. Those reasons reflect no benefit to the SANFL clubs IMO. Just a cry of sympathy from the Power, and then the SANFL clubs bought it?

You would have to ask the SANFL commissioners as to the reasoning behind it, I can't answer that part. I can only try to help with what I know.

[Barracker1]

Bays are talking to former Reserves coach and Amo premier coach Brett Backwell. There's something to think about !!

[darley16]

Panthers coaching panel to include former players Michael Hanby and Josh Thewlis, good to see former players returning to contribute to the club.

[heater31]

Panthers coaching panel to include former players Michael Hanby and Josh Thewlis, good to see former players returning to contribute to the club.

Handles back to Noarlunga again.

[Wedgie]

Panthers coaching panel to include former players Michael Hanby and Josh Thewlis, good to see former players returning to contribute to the club.

Handles back to Noarlunga again.

Should get a new nickname, Yo-yo