INS and OUTS for 2019

[VALE PARK]

He may mean struggled to get followers to attend games.

[VALE PARK]

He may mean struggled to get followers to attend their games.

[holden78]

If you are currently concerned your Club hasn't appeared to fare so well with recruits this off-season, then you can feel (simultaneously) safe and sick in the knowledge that most of the eight SANFL Clubs are in the same boat.

SAFE....... most recruits are returnees or players moving Club based on the GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER logic. I would suggest this appears our driest run ever as a collective for interstate recruits. Apart from some useful gets for Norwood and Tropiano to North there is no interstate guns of note with at least 6 Club supporters feeling they are coming up short-changed for 2018.
SICK..... this is reflective of the interstate lads not buying into what Clubs are attempting to sell re the SANFL. Club chiefs are frustrated and they are forlornly hoping the SANFL can offer assistance to allure players to the comp. The lack of decent name recruits, on top of the talented core of top SANFL players who have retired before their time, is the most significant PLAYER statement in the history of the competition. Without credibility, the league has nothing to offer.

Many of us may be at our lowest ebb ever in terms of off-season anticipation of (a) our own Clubs playing stocks, and (b) the standard of competition.

Competition is a dogs breakfast with rules made on the run and basically set up for every Gayfl whim to be catered for!
Give the two Cancers whatever but No finals, then at least there is always a Real Premier with whom the Cup actually means something.

[johntheclaret]

If you are currently concerned your Club hasn't appeared to fare so well with recruits this off-season, then you can feel (simultaneously) safe and sick in the knowledge that most of the eight SANFL Clubs are in the same boat.

SAFE....... most recruits are returnees or players moving Club based on the GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER logic. I would suggest this appears our driest run ever as a collective for interstate recruits. Apart from some useful gets for Norwood and Tropiano to North there is no interstate guns of note with at least 6 Club supporters feeling they are coming up short-changed for 2018.
SICK..... this is reflective of the interstate lads not buying into what Clubs are attempting to sell re the SANFL. Club chiefs are frustrated and they are forlornly hoping the SANFL can offer assistance to allure players to the comp. The lack of decent name recruits, on top of the talented core of top SANFL players who have retired before their time, is the most significant PLAYER statement in the history of the competition. Without credibility, the league has nothing to offer.

Many of us may be at our lowest ebb ever in terms of off-season anticipation of (a) our own Clubs playing stocks, and (b) the standard of competition.

I’d agree on fans expectations.
Not sure about why players aren’t coming to the sanfl though. As far as 2nd tier state leagues go the sanfl still offers the best league outside the afl. It would appear to me that the biggest threat to the sanfl is the ammo leagues who don’t seem to have the same financial constraints that sanfl clubs have to work under. I’m sure there is a plethora of rules the ammos must operate within, but they do seem to be able to out-pay sanfl clubs and can therefore attract good sanfl level players who might have stayed or returned to the state league.

The other important issue might be that in a semi-pro environment work prospects and salaries play a bigger part and with the current salary cap, structure sanfl clubs can’t offer the level of incentive which, coupled with work career opportunities that Adelaide can offer compared to say Melbourne or even Sydney, makes the overall package far less attractive than it might have been a few years ago.

It would be easy to say that having the two AFL Reserve sides in the league is having an adverse affect in attracting quality players and returnees, but in reality interstate leagues are in the same position as the sanfl is. If any responsibility could be placed at the Reserves doorstep then perhaps some players might find the ammos more attractive than the compromised sanfl but those same players might also find the match payments to commitment ratio equally attractive.

What the solution is, well that is a whole new ball game. There has been plenty of discussion on what the sanfl and the clubs need to do to get fans through the turnstiles but maybe not so much as to how the league and the clubs can attract and retain quality players. It’s a double edged sword too as better players mean a better standard of footy which would make the sanfl more attractive to the fans (assuming the AFL Reserves are excluded of course).

[amber_fluid]

It’s simply more for less.
More pay in the ammos/county league and you commit far less time during the week for players.

Plus it’s free entry to the ammos for spectators and generally cheaper grog.

[GMcG]

It’s simply more for less.
More pay in the ammos/county league and you commit far less time during the week for players.

Plus it’s free entry to the ammos for spectators and generally cheaper grog.

yep, the attraction of bullshit-free footy,
the players are subjected to less bullshit,
the supporters are subjected to less bullshit,
kinda like what the SANFL was like, before the circus came to town.

[Dutchy]

It’s simply more for less.
More pay in the ammos/county league and you commit far less time during the week for players.

Plus it’s free entry to the ammos for spectators and generally cheaper grog.

yep, the attraction of bullshit-free footy,
the players are subjected to less bullshit,
the supporters are subjected to less bullshit,
kinda like what the SANFL was like, before the circus came to town.

And it has integrity, unlike the SANFL

[northerner]

Fully agree that we are battling against ammos (and country leagues) for players, but still believe that the inability to nab interstaters is a major problem and has never been more evident than this off-season.

We are no longer seen as the best second-tier comp which was a logical step to potential AFL. The VFL is clearly the pathway the players are taking and the main reason that is being cited is they feel the eyes of the AFL Clubs are firmly fixed on these teams, particularly if you are in a team associated with an AFL Club. Players will rather play for Geelong's VFL side as a top up than at a regular SANFL Club.

So, how does that bode if the two AFL Clubs pull out of the SANFL? Damned if they remain, damned if they pull out?

[Hazydog]

Incredible.
Originally only Port were allowed a marquee. And if my understanding was correct, he was to be temporary.
Now both AFL clubs are to be allowed them on a permanent basis.
How is this happening at the same time Glenelg is being told their cap has been reduced owing to ongoing debt?
Surely in this situation the SANFL clubs should ALSO be allowed a marquee player, outside the current rules which apply to player recruitment, i.e. the cap?
I would suggest that the Crows and Power be made to pay for the 8 SANFL marquee players. Some clubs can only do so much with the existing cap while others are being told to tighten their belts, then the SANFL just gift the AFL reserves a ticket to go spend more money to compliment their million dollar lists? It is time the SANFL clubs were offered an equal concession.

The original rules were.
Both Port and Crows could have One leadership Player over the age of 28 that had previously played for the club. Ours was Ian Callinan and Ports was Henry Slattery. The rest of Crows top up players came from Amatuers and SANFL reserve players. The rest of Ports top up players came from players that were on the Magpies list at the time (This included Summerton) and players from Ports old zones. Technically Ports captain should have been Slattery lol.

And if memory serves, Summerton was placed on a longer term , back ended contract so that he could receive more than the nominated $200 per game or whatever it was that top ups were entitled to - and the SANFL immediately closed the loop on that happening down the track again.

In fairness to the SANFL, in making this decision they have obviously taken into account how the "Magpies" have struggled since they transitioned to an AFL reserves team.

STRUGGLED You're joking surely

Don't call me Shirley - and yes, it was an attempt at irony.

[Brodlach]

Sooooo anymore In’s and Out’s?


Doggies and Panthers have been quiet on the recruiting

West are finished I believe

[VALE PARK]

Let's face it the SANFL is now an almost amateur competition and still sinking.
The pre season work load and time commitment is out of whack with the rewards (money and prestige) unless you are under 20.
No wonder most will eventually leave the system for a more realistic sport/work/life style by the time they are 23/24.
SANFL clubs and their coaches have not woken up yet.
Big turnover of players will remain the norm.
More quality going than arriving.
Maybe the 2 fully professional clubs and their endless cash/support/coaching etc could be the major cause.
Maybe a Crows Power SANFL Grand final is closer than most think.
Then what next?

[heater31]

Sooooo anymore In’s and Out’s?


Doggies and Panthers have been quiet on the recruiting

West are finished I believe

South

Out
A. Luckhurst-Smith

In
M.Nyland

[Brodlach]

Let's face it the SANFL is now an almost amateur competition and still sinking.
The pre season work load and time commitment is out of whack with the rewards (money and prestige) unless you are under 20.
No wonder most will eventually leave the system for a more realistic sport/work/life style by the time they are 23/24.
SANFL clubs and their coaches have not woken up yet.
Big turnover of players will remain the norm.
More quality going than arriving.
Maybe the 2 fully professional clubs and their endless cash/support/coaching etc could be the major cause.
Maybe a Crows Power SANFL Grand final is closer than most think.
Then what next?

Move your discussion to one of the other 100000 threads about the same topic

[Brodlach]

Sooooo anymore In’s and Out’s?


Doggies and Panthers have been quiet on the recruiting

West are finished I believe

South

Out
A. Luckhurst-Smith

In
M.Nyland

Who are they?

[Barracker1]

Andrew Luckhurst Smith is the current chairman of South Adelaide unless something has changed and M Nyland could be Marty Nyland from Noarlunga Football Club So in reality its just Heater 31's usual garbage

[Booney]

Andrew Luckhurst Smith is the current chairman of South Adelaide unless something has changed and M Nyland could be Marty Nyland from Noarlunga Football Club So in reality its just Heater 31's usual garbage

New bloke goes BANG.

[amber_fluid]

Let's face it the SANFL is now an almost amateur competition and still sinking.
The pre season work load and time commitment is out of whack with the rewards (money and prestige) unless you are under 20.
No wonder most will eventually leave the system for a more realistic sport/work/life style by the time they are 23/24.
SANFL clubs and their coaches have not woken up yet.
Big turnover of players will remain the norm.
More quality going than arriving.
Maybe the 2 fully professional clubs and their endless cash/support/coaching etc could be the major cause.
Maybe a Crows Power SANFL Grand final is closer than most think.
Then what next?

Move your discussion to one of the other 100000 threads about the same topic

To be fair this topic wouldn't have reached page 2 if we only discussed the IN's for the SANFL

[Brodlach]

[Spargo]

Andrew Luckhurst Smith is the current chairman of South Adelaide unless something has changed and M Nyland could be Marty Nyland from Noarlunga Football Club So in reality its just Heater 31's usual garbage

New bloke goes BANG.

Joined in 2015, posts thus far - 11
Quality, not quantity

[amber_fluid]

Andrew Luckhurst Smith is the current chairman of South Adelaide unless something has changed and M Nyland could be Marty Nyland from Noarlunga Football Club So in reality its just Heater 31's usual garbage

New bloke goes BANG.

Joined in 2015, posts thus far - 11
Quality, not quantity

A few people on here should take note of that.