by Booney » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:04 am
by MW » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:17 am
by Spargo » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:25 am
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:27 am
by bertiebeatle » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:52 am
by Booney » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 am
by Dogwatcher » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:20 am
by The Bedge » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:21 am
Dogwatcher wrote:What does this mean?
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:24 am
Dogwatcher wrote:What does this mean?
by Magellan » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:26 am
Booney wrote:Despite breaking their 37-year premiership drought last September, Richmond will need to come from the clouds once again in 2018 according to Champion Data, as their list is still a far way off the game’s elite.
According to the AFL’s leading data supplier, Champion Data rate Richmond’s list as the ninth best in the competition, with their best 22 rated as the seventh strongest.
Sydney are at the top of both lists, as the Swans have been ranked number one for both overall list strength, and best 22.
Close behind Sydney in list strength is Port Adelaide, who added senior players Tom Rockliff, Jack Watts and Steven Motlop in last season’s free agency period.
Adelaide in third and GWS in fourth round out the four strongest lists in the competition, with all four sides finishing in the top six on last season’s AFL ladder.
The Swans lead the league with 17 players rated either ‘elite’ or ‘above average’, with Port Adelaide boasting 16 players in the two categories.
For perspective, the Tigers won the premiership with just three ‘elite’ players (Dustin Martin, Alex Rance and Shane Edwards) and nine in the ‘above average’ column
At the other end of the scale, Carlton’s list has been ranked as the league’s worst, while Fremantle have been placed in 18th spot with the weakest best 22, given captain Nat Fyfe is the Dockers’ only ‘elite’ player.
Collingwood will be looking to break their finals drought but will need to do so with the league’s 10th best list, although should their best 22 stay on the park for most of the season, the Pies could be finals bound, given their strongest 22 rates sixth in the competition.
After adding Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad, Essendon’s list is still below Collingwood’s in overall strength in 11th, while their best 22 is eighth among the competition.
by bennymacca » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:27 am
bertiebeatle wrote:To be honest, i agree with all of the above but I know it isn't going to last. Each year the rumours get stronger and stronger about plans being made to change the way our game is structured and it is crap. I grew up enjoying a 22 round season and love that it is 23 now with a bye and don't want it to change. I agree to leave it how it is but i just can't see it lasting with how the AFL is run these days.
by bennymacca » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 am
The Bedge wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:What does this mean?
F**k all.
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:34 am
Magellan wrote:Booney wrote:Despite breaking their 37-year premiership drought last September, Richmond will need to come from the clouds once again in 2018 according to Champion Data, as their list is still a far way off the game’s elite.
According to the AFL’s leading data supplier, Champion Data rate Richmond’s list as the ninth best in the competition, with their best 22 rated as the seventh strongest.
Sydney are at the top of both lists, as the Swans have been ranked number one for both overall list strength, and best 22.
Close behind Sydney in list strength is Port Adelaide, who added senior players Tom Rockliff, Jack Watts and Steven Motlop in last season’s free agency period.
Adelaide in third and GWS in fourth round out the four strongest lists in the competition, with all four sides finishing in the top six on last season’s AFL ladder.
The Swans lead the league with 17 players rated either ‘elite’ or ‘above average’, with Port Adelaide boasting 16 players in the two categories.
For perspective, the Tigers won the premiership with just three ‘elite’ players (Dustin Martin, Alex Rance and Shane Edwards) and nine in the ‘above average’ column
At the other end of the scale, Carlton’s list has been ranked as the league’s worst, while Fremantle have been placed in 18th spot with the weakest best 22, given captain Nat Fyfe is the Dockers’ only ‘elite’ player.
Collingwood will be looking to break their finals drought but will need to do so with the league’s 10th best list, although should their best 22 stay on the park for most of the season, the Pies could be finals bound, given their strongest 22 rates sixth in the competition.
After adding Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad, Essendon’s list is still below Collingwood’s in overall strength in 11th, while their best 22 is eighth among the competition.
Shane Edwards is an 'elite' player?
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:37 am
bennymacca wrote:bertiebeatle wrote:To be honest, i agree with all of the above but I know it isn't going to last. Each year the rumours get stronger and stronger about plans being made to change the way our game is structured and it is crap. I grew up enjoying a 22 round season and love that it is 23 now with a bye and don't want it to change. I agree to leave it how it is but i just can't see it lasting with how the AFL is run these days.
Just because it has been a 22 round season forever and it’s what we all grew up with, doesn’t mean it actually makes any sense at all in a comp with more than 12 teams.
I don’t think any of us have the answer, but keeping it the way it is just “because it’s been like that for ages” surely can’t be the main reason not to change something.
To me creating a 100% fair draw and making each game as relevant as it possibly can me see the two main goals should the fixture be changed.
They have tried to make it a bit fairer with the fixture banding but it is still not 100% fair and equitable
by Corona Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:46 am
amber_fluid wrote:bennymacca wrote:bertiebeatle wrote:To be honest, i agree with all of the above but I know it isn't going to last. Each year the rumours get stronger and stronger about plans being made to change the way our game is structured and it is crap. I grew up enjoying a 22 round season and love that it is 23 now with a bye and don't want it to change. I agree to leave it how it is but i just can't see it lasting with how the AFL is run these days.
Just because it has been a 22 round season forever and it’s what we all grew up with, doesn’t mean it actually makes any sense at all in a comp with more than 12 teams.
I don’t think any of us have the answer, but keeping it the way it is just “because it’s been like that for ages” surely can’t be the main reason not to change something.
To me creating a 100% fair draw and making each game as relevant as it possibly can me see the two main goals should the fixture be changed.
They have tried to make it a bit fairer with the fixture banding but it is still not 100% fair and equitable
Change it too improve it but don’t change it just for the sake of it.
If they can’t improve it, leave it as it is as it isn’t actually broke.
by Booney » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:01 am
Dogwatcher wrote:What does this mean?
by Brodlach » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:06 am
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by nuggety goodness » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:09 am
by bennymacca » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:17 am
amber_fluid wrote:
Change it too improve it but don’t change it just for the sake of it.
If they can’t improve it, leave it as it is as it isn’t actually broke.
by Spargo » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:43 am
bennymacca wrote:amber_fluid wrote:
Change it too improve it but don’t change it just for the sake of it.
If they can’t improve it, leave it as it is as it isn’t actually broke.
I would argue that it is actually broken - playing some teams once, some teams twice every so often, some teams twice every year, not playing against a team away for years, etc etc.
But I do agree that finding a consensus will be difficult.
Besides a bottom half team not being able to win the div 1 flag in the next year, I still can’t see a downside to the two division format
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