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Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:14 am

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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


It's funny how you are deemed a racist when you, like I do at times, feel a little jaded by things you see.

Sure, I've got empathy for them, for what they've escaped, for what they've seen, but when I walk around the corner from home and see the young African lad and his mates arsing around with a BMW M3 while smoking and drinking all hours of the day and night I can't help but wonder what the **** is going on. Sorry, when I say all hours of the day and night I mean after 11am when they get up and before 3am when they go to bed.


I’m sure you’ve walked around taperoo recently too right? Plenty of dickhead deadbeats of all nationalities
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Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:17 am

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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


Serious question, what cash start do they get? As far as I’m aware they qualify for the same welfare entitlements as anyone else

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... stRefugees
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:20 am

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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


It's funny how you are deemed a racist when you, like I do at times, feel a little jaded by things you see.

Sure, I've got empathy for them, for what they've escaped, for what they've seen, but when I walk around the corner from home and see the young African lad and his mates arsing around with a BMW M3 while smoking and drinking all hours of the day and night I can't help but wonder what the **** is going on. Sorry, when I say all hours of the day and night I mean after 11am when they get up and before 3am when they go to bed.


I’m sure you’ve walked around taperoo recently too right? Plenty of dickhead deadbeats of all nationalities


I don't walk around Taperoo, not often anyway but I get your point, being a mug isn't exclusive to any race.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:21 am

bennymacca wrote:
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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


Serious question, what cash start do they get? As far as I’m aware they qualify for the same welfare entitlements as anyone else

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... stRefugees


Ergo our comments regarding indigenous people, the aged and veterans. Perhaps these groups should be given a leg up first....
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:22 am

bennymacca wrote:
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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


Serious question, what cash start do they get? As far as I’m aware they qualify for the same welfare entitlements as anyone else

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... stRefugees

Well that was pretty inconclusive.

There is obviously some kick start funding as they apparently come here with nothing at all and suddenly drive around in a luxurious car, their entitlements seem to be on par with everyone else I think.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:24 am

Veterans get a pretty sweet deal in terms of healthcare etc. And the aged still get their pensions too.

What are you actually advocating for? A raise in pensions and genuine refugees get nothing?
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:26 am

bennymacca wrote:Veterans get a pretty sweet deal in terms of healthcare etc. And the aged still get their pensions too.

What are you actually advocating for? A raise in pensions and genuine refugees get nothing?

Pensions are worth f*ck all, the older generation can't even afford to run their air conditioners during summer.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:27 am

bennymacca wrote:Veterans get a pretty sweet deal in terms of healthcare etc. And the aged still get their pensions too.

What are you actually advocating for? A raise in pensions and genuine refugees get nothing?


I'm not advocating anything to be honest, people far more edumacated than me should deal with it.

On another note, I wonder what the general feeling is in NZ where they basically take no refugees.

Is their social conscience more upset about not taking any than ours is for taking them in and then treating them ( in off shore detention ) as we do?
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 am

My grandparents seem to just fine.

And they are as working class as it gets.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:31 am

bennymacca wrote:Veterans get a pretty sweet deal in terms of healthcare etc. And the aged still get their pensions too.

What are you actually advocating for? A raise in pensions and genuine refugees get nothing?


Do you try to be a patronising dickhead on purpose? Or is that just how you are?

Everyone's explained their point pretty well, and they seem reasonable, but you still try to put words in their mouths.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:35 am

Also, you mention Taperoo and the deros that occupy the suburb. From what I can tell there's a high percentage of single mothers and Aboriginal families in the housing trust part of Taperoo.

Are you having a crack at them too?
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Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:36 am

HH3 wrote:Also, you mention Taperoo and the deros that occupy the suburb. From what I can tell there's a high percentage of single mothers and Aboriginal families in the housing trust part of Taperoo.

Are you having a crack at them too?


Possibly.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:37 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
HH3 wrote:Also, you mention Taperoo and the deros that occupy the suburb. From what I can tell there's a high percentage of single mothers and Aboriginal families in the housing trust part of Taperoo.

Are you having a crack at them too?


Possibly.


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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby tipper » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:39 am

HH3 wrote:Also, you mention Taperoo and the deros that occupy the suburb. From what I can tell there's a high percentage of single mothers and Aboriginal families in the housing trust part of Taperoo.

Are you having a crack at them too?


not to mention buying into "tired old stereotypes"...wait
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:44 am

bennymacca wrote:
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bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?

I mean the refugees that come over here, get a huge cash start and then can't adapt to the values of the Australian culture.

I'm by no means racist, I do find it a fair kick in the guts when I have been employed for my whole adult life, have children, my wife works yet we can't afford to be driving around in a $50K + car when I know of families that don't work and seem to afford such luxuries, add to the fact that most of them cannot even operate a vehicle to satisfactory level.


It's funny how you are deemed a racist when you, like I do at times, feel a little jaded by things you see.

Sure, I've got empathy for them, for what they've escaped, for what they've seen, but when I walk around the corner from home and see the young African lad and his mates arsing around with a BMW M3 while smoking and drinking all hours of the day and night I can't help but wonder what the **** is going on. Sorry, when I say all hours of the day and night I mean after 11am when they get up and before 3am when they go to bed.


I’m sure you’ve walked around taperoo recently too right? Plenty of dickhead deadbeats of all nationalities


bennymacca wrote:What do you mean by that except for buying into the same old stereotypes?
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:10 pm

That was my exact point - plenty of incorrect stereotypes that we could choose to, mostly incorrectly, categorise a whole group
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:15 pm

bennymacca wrote:That was my exact point - plenty of incorrect stereotypes that we could choose to, mostly incorrectly, categorise a whole group


Oh you were being ironic, to show us the error of our ways.....

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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:16 pm

Stereotypes are everywhere and are mostly rubbish.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby MW » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 pm

bennymacca wrote:Stereotypes are everywhere and are mostly rubbish.


How are those stereotypes created then?
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Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:26 pm

Occurs when you try to generalise a small section of the community towards the larger population

For instance - aboriginals are massively over represented in our prison system.

This creates the stereotype that all aboriginals are criminals which is clearly false.

Or that everyone in Elizabeth is a dole bludger. Etc etc
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